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Drone posted:I get this feeling as well, so I'm not discounting it, but I'm a gay man and DS9 is my favorite series by a country mile All of this, the same yes. I can never understand the Voyager love generally in gay fandom, but I’m pretty sure 95% is that same reason.
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FuturePastNow posted:I assume anyone who likes TNG and Voyager but doesn't like DS9 is a racist. Funnily enough, I (a dude) have been called sexist for disliking Voyager.
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Mar 14, 2019 09:52
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I've been called a reverse racist for not liking Enterprise
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Drone posted:also a lot of gay men's fondness for Voyager amounts to "Janeway yaaaas queen, slay tuvix" 
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Mar 14, 2019 16:24
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Incredible posts by Forums User Miss in the MSPaint Spaceships GBS thread. but specifically
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1000 Brown M and Ms posted:Funnily enough, I (a dude) have been called sexist for disliking Voyager. I got upset at someone who said this to me once and then I looked at other people who disliked Voyager and said, “oh.” There’s a big difference between (most of) what happens here and the larger internet world. I’ve learned to lean heavily on hating Rick Berman and his weird edicts and then I get the chance to actually talk about what was wrong with the show.
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I decided to save DS9 for now. I'm currently on a break and watched all of Discovery. I like Discovery but can understand why people don't. After I ran out of Discovery episodes, I started watching Enterprise. This quickly became watching Enterprise in the background. Season 1 of this show has so few good episodes. It also feels like every background is either brown or gray. Acquisition is one of the few decent episodes in season 1. I've read it gets better in season 3, hopefully s2 has a few more good episodes than s1. The theme song is so hilarious I don't immediately hit skip intro. The idea that they chose the song to make Star Trek more hip is hilarious. Is there a decent watch list for Season 2 that anyone can recommend?
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Carbon Creek Minefield (Dead Stop is a continuation but not required) The Catwalk Stigma Cease Fire The Crossing First Flight There are other decent episodes but those are the only ones I’d consider essential, and some of them (like Stigma) are referenced in later seasons.
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Spacebump posted:I decided to save DS9 for now. Look, DS9 was the overall best Star Trek, but it wasn't god's gift to TV or anything like that. It certainly wasn't The Wire. "Saving it" like it's some ultimate prize is going overboard, frankly. You're watching a Star Trek series, so you're going to experience Bij.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Minefield (Dead Stop is a continuation but not required) Dead Stop was great. A good premise and a lot of fun.
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I stopped watching ds9 early into s6. The overarching narrative got a bit tiring to have to keep going back and reminding myself all the important details from memory alpha. I just like TNG's dose of 'space philosophy' of the week. I am going to try to finish it now starting from the s5 finale.
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:I've been called a reverse racist for not liking Enterprise Who are these broken people who like Enterprise? Even CBS apologized for Enterprise.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Minefield (Dead Stop is a continuation but not required) Honestly, I'd say Dead Stop is the more "must see" episode with Minefield as the optional other part for context. Dead Stop brilliantly makes space this terrifying place where totally insane poo poo happens, like "gently caress, maybe we really weren't ready to be out here."
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Honestly, I'd say Dead Stop is the more "must see" episode with Minefield as the optional other part for context. Dead Stop brilliantly makes space this terrifying place where totally insane poo poo happens, like "gently caress, maybe we really weren't ready to be out here." This should really have been the entire premise of the show. Just exploring and seeing the amazing world of OTHER PLANETS and aliens from a near future context, and making the humdrum Alpha Quadrant really new and exciting. The show had that amazing thing in the pilot where they went to the alien bazaar and showed wonder and coolness and they never managed to do that again. It was all Future Guy time war poo poo and Xindi 9/11 crap. Then by the time it got cool with Shran and more blinkenlights on the bridge, it was gone.
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My dad - who I watched TNG with when I was a kid - didn't like DS9 because it's a "soap opera in space" and I heard that sentiment a lot. Other than people I've got into it I've never met a DS9 fan in reality. If a person says they like star trek it pretty much always means Voyager
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All the best early Enterprise episodes were the "wow what the gently caress we are in way over our head" ones like Dead Stop. I agree they should've used that more. Again, like Voyager, the cardinal sin was not committing to the premise. I loved that first battle when their lovely firework torpedo just bounced off the enemy ship and they got absolutely clowned. More of that.
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Grand Fromage posted:All the best early Enterprise episodes were the "wow what the gently caress we are in way over our head" ones like Dead Stop. I agree they should've used that more. Again, like Voyager, the cardinal sin was not committing to the premise.
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Enterprise would have been so much better if they took a ten year break after Voyager ended. Enterprise, as a show, just reeked of Franchise Fatigue from day one.
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DS9 I think had aged well because, as said, it suits today's viewing habits better; ongoing plot and heavy continuity, an ensemble cast with rotating focus, strong emphasis on worldbuilding and personal arcs. (for the most part) Hell, it's got a touch of Game of Thrones in space going on, at least when the Klingons are around.
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D'gor was the Tywin of Qo'noS, shrewdly manipulating finances and people to destroy his political foes. I imagine Tywin also would have gotten similarly hosed over had a legit accountant existed in Westeros, too.
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MillennialVulcan posted:Incredible posts by Forums User Miss in the MSPaint Spaceships GBS thread. this reply is the best part of the thread Who What Now posted:
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Drone posted:Enterprise would have been so much better if they took a ten year break after Voyager ended. Enterprise, as a show, just reeked of Franchise Fatigue from day one.
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Yessssssssssss Truly the next series I want to see on CBS All Access
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hahahahaha it's been a while since we revisited the adventures of Hyperriker and the Enterprise-JFAZW
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:the Enterprise-JFAZW How many Enterprises down the line is this?
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McSpanky posted:How many Enterprises down the line is this? quote:The USS Enterprise (NCC-1701-JFAZW) was a Shatner-class Federation starship commanded by Dark Admiral Jean-Luc Hyperriker. It was commissioned in the year 14205, the 4,201,337th Federation ship to bear the name Enterprise.
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ashpanash posted:The USS Enterprise (NCC-1701-JFAZW) was a Shatner-class Federation starship commanded by Dark Admiral Jean-Luc Hyperriker. It was commissioned in the year 14205, the 4,201,337th Federation ship to bear the name Enterprise. This is the best paragraph in all Fandom.
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ashpanash posted:The USS Enterprise (NCC-1701-JFAZW) was a Shatner-class Federation starship commanded by Dark Admiral Jean-Luc Hyperriker. It was commissioned in the year 14205, the 4,201,337th Federation ship to bear the name Enterprise. Hmm but does that include the NX-01?
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The Bloop posted:Hmm but does that include the NX-01? Federation ships only
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I think Discovery has lost me now. I watched that Saru episode (which wasn't bad or anything!) and just haven't even touched it after. It's not that season 2 is bad, it's just not the sort of show I'm after. Like I said earlier it really reminds me of Nu-Who and doesn't feel like a new Star Trek, I dunno. I hope that this sort of action-save the world feel isn't how the new Picard show goes.
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Hopefully the Georgiou show will be the action-focused spinoff, and the Picard show the flute-playing and moralistic philosophizing that we all crave. Who'm I kidding, they're gonna go with Movie Picard and not TV Picard.
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Drone posted:Hopefully the Georgiou show will be the action-focused spinoff, and the Picard show the flute-playing and moralistic philosophizing that we all crave. Hopefully P-stew's old enough to want to sit down.
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Taear posted:I think Discovery has lost me now. I watched that Saru episode (which wasn't bad or anything!) and just haven't even touched it after. It's not that season 2 is bad, it's just not the sort of show I'm after. Like I said earlier it really reminds me of Nu-Who and doesn't feel like a new Star Trek, I dunno. Nu-Saru encourages fist fights in the mess hall. He never would have done that before kelpian menopause.
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Drone posted:Hopefully the Georgiou show will be the action-focused spinoff, and the Picard show the flute-playing and moralistic philosophizing that we all crave. I'm going to say I'm shocked there's even a section 31 show in the making. I dunno about in the US but Discovery barely seems to get mentioned here. None of the Netflix promotional stuff we get at work talks about it, nobody mentions watching it, it's not in lists of most watched treks. I wish they'd give us some concrete figures. counterfeitsaint posted:Nu-Saru encourages fist fights in the mess hall. He never would have done that before kelpian menopause. Okay, I dunno what that has to do with what I said!
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Taear posted:I'm going to say I'm shocked there's even a section 31 show in the making. I dunno about in the US but Discovery barely seems to get mentioned here. None of the Netflix promotional stuff we get at work talks about it, nobody mentions watching it, it's not in lists of most watched treks. The only other place I see STD talked about in the wild is on my friends Facebook page where he makes fun of the people bitching about the show. It was renewed for a third season so it's either making enough money to pay for production between subs and Netflix or CBS reality just wants it around as a nerd flagship while they figure out how to get all of the Olds to subscribe to watch Andy Griffin and the NCIS back catalog.
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8one6 posted:The only other place I see STD talked about in the wild is on my friends Facebook page where he makes fun of the people bitching about the show. I mean the CBS figures don't include the rest of the world, how's it playing here? That's what I want to know. Honestly the only people I know who've talked about it said they tried it then never touched it again. While I'm not saying that's everyone it's a lot easier to do that here because you've got Netflix anyway, you're not subscribing specifically for Discovery, if you see what I mean.
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"People I know aren't talking about it" is a spectacularly bad barometer for how well a show is doing. I know literally zero people who watched Big Bang Theory (including myself) and welp. (My one IRL friend who enjoys Star Trek is also really loving Discovery so ymmv).
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