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From my experience with my cousin, it doesn't matter that bolso is the complete opposite to what a "good religious person" should be. He owns it to the libs, and to the feminists, and to those ~dirty fabela scum~ and they will defend anything he does. I see that a lot with hardcore religious people tho. They will accept anything that should be against their morals as long as someone is harming the people they hate.
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He attacks gays, he wants to make easier for the police to execute ""bad people", he is against communists (who are bad people), abortion, he talks about god and prays and he defends "the traditional family". How can he not be good? Thats what it means to be good to a lot of people, doenst matter if you are obviously a hateful egoistical hypocrite, follow these bullet points and you are good to go to heaven. You got to believe something like this to see holiness in scum like Malafaia, Edir Macedo etc And then theres those people who dont really give a gently caress about him being good or not, they just want blood on the favelas and persecution for the people they hate (femminists, gays, leftists etc), they just talk about good and evil (and "christianity", "western civilization" etc) to justify it Elias_Maluco has issued a correction as of 12:55 on Mar 13, 2019 |
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Elias_Maluco posted:they just want blood on the favelas and persecution for the people they hate (femminists, gays, leftists etc), they just talk about good and evil (and "christianity", "western civilization" etc) to justify it Remember when Elite Squad was criticism of how excessive police violence doesn't actually solve anything and in fact only turns good(and perhaps naive) into killing machines and people only saw "gently caress yeah kill everyone in the favelas noice" Glad it only got worse since then Halser has issued a correction as of 13:09 on Mar 13, 2019 |
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Halser posted:Remember when Elite Squad was criticism of how excessive police violence doesn't actually solve anything and in fact only turns good(and perhaps naive) into killing machines people only saw "gently caress yeah kill everyone in the favelas noice" Everyone knows it doenst solves anything. Everyone has to know, because that is what Brazil has been doing against crime and violence, this is already our normal, and it didint solved anything, like we can see Bolsonarism solution to violence (let the PM kill, beat and torture like they please with no consequences) is just to expand on what we have already been doing for at least half a century, and people actually believes this is going to solve crime? I think most of them dont believe that, actually, not really. Its about hate and vengeange, is not about solving anything
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In the evangelical worldview, any leader who stands to seriously hurt your enemies was "chosen by God" no matter how repulsive or sacrilegious they are.
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We're becoming the US.
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Plutonis posted:We're becoming the US. We have our Turmp, we have our dumb idiots calling for gun ownership, we he have those same dumb idiots screaming about immigrants (even though immigration is not a problem here at all) and crying about "white genocide", and now we are catching up on the american tradition of school shootings, and also all the dumb arguments that those events always trigger This is Brazil becoming GREAT
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Immigration isn't a problem at all in the USA either but lol
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Moridin920 posted:Immigration isn't a problem at all in the USA either but lol Its even less here, immigrants are a irrelevant percentage of the population
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Elias_Maluco posted:Everyone knows it doenst solves anything. Everyone has to know, because that is what Brazil has been doing against crime and violence, this is already our normal, and it didint solved anything, like we can see It's a fact of social hierarchies that those in the middle classes who harbor resentments against those above them redirect it at those below them. To express one's real resentment is to risk having one's station lowered, becoming vulnerable to more redirected anger from above. Eventually the action becomes self-justifying; the problems are believed to actually be caused by the lower classes.
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Plutonis posted:We're becoming the US. I check G1's comment section sometimes(self flagellation) and I couldn't help but laugh when one old lady posted "god help these families in this difficult time" in the middle of the left-right poo poo flinging and promptly got verbally assaulted by both sides at once.
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Ah, great, I spend the whole day offline and we get school shootings. Fuckin' hell, Brazil, I can't keep my eyes off you for a goddamn minute. Also I like that G1 is already talking about "videogames". Do we have to follow the USA's school shooting flowchart that hard?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nToKIyGGiYs Bolso's family has deep ties to paramilitary right wing death squads. Probably a coincidence 
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https://twitter.com/PersonalEscrito/status/1107071094886940678 *Bad Albert Wesker voice* TU VAIS DAR-ME UM OVO
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Kunster posted:https://twitter.com/PersonalEscrito/status/1107071094886940678 Seems to be an old image. Bolso is in the US now fellating Trump.
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So the federal government is not going to hire people and do concursos publicos for a while which is sure to worsen the public sector on the long run as people are trying to retire ASAP before the new pension reform comes through and fucks them in fhe rear end and it'll be used to justify mass privatization/shutting down of several sectors. Lol.
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Bolsonaro just removed the retaliatory Visa requirements for the US prior to the meeting master negotiatior in a gathering of big brains
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nerdz posted:Bolsonaro just removed the retaliatory Visa requirements for the US prior to the meeting retaliatory requirements? I thought they were just regular visa requirements, did I miss something?
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Symbolic Butt posted:retaliatory requirements? I thought they were just regular visa requirements, did I miss something? it's not retaliatory, it's reciprocal. Americans, japanese, canadians and autralians will no longer need visas for visits <90 days. This is a freebie, these countries will still require visas.
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Magrov posted:it's not retaliatory, it's reciprocal. Americans, japanese, canadians and autralians will no longer need visas for visits <90 days. This is a freebie, these countries will still require visas.  Although, I do hope they kept the reciprocal fee, like Argentina and other countries do (no visa, but a fee payable at airport based on tourist visa cost).
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Magrov posted:it's not retaliatory, it's reciprocal. oh I see, Bolsonaro likes framing things in a complete bullshit way like "current gun laws were retaliatory measures the Workers' Party created to punish honest citizens for being hard workers" so I was wondering if there was some of that here.
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Wasn't trump literally extorting NATO members over contributions? lol also, we're deffo invading Venezuela
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Dilma was never imprisoned, she was just impeached. I mean, she definitely was imprisoned and tortured, but that was back in the 70's when she was fighting the dictatorship. The whole impeachment process was a hilarious lot of bullshit, and IIRC some congressmen used really inane justifications to vote in favor of the impeachment, like "God wills it" or similar garbage. I do believe the entire country knew implicitly that it was unfair but didn't really care as they hoped a sudden change would perhaps make things work out(it didn't) and there was obviously a lot of political interest in taking out Lula's pupil out of the picture. With that in mind, I do think Lula is guilty of being corrupt. Virtually no politician in brazil is clean. I used to think Moro himself was, but him being chosen as minister of justice(when he previously said he wasn't interested) made me raise an eyebrow so hard it nearly got ripped off. Halser has issued a correction as of 21:15 on Mar 19, 2019 |
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Halser posted:Dilma was never imprisoned, she was just impeached. This is not a defense of corruption, but in Brazil everything gets done through corruption, from the hiring of a despachante to make your paperwork be processed faster, to the paying of your doctor with no receipt. The cracking down on corruption therefore has been inherently political. Dilma was only impeached because PT decided to vote against Cunha in his own legal troubles, and because Dilma had used the lista triplice to select the attorney general suggested by other attorneys, instead of a political hack. As a result, she paid the penalty for not being corrupt enough. Moro has never been clean. From his releasing to the public illegal wiretaps of Dilma and Lula, to his wife campaigning openly against the PT, to him talking to Bolsonaro's campaign during the campaign itself, it has all be extremely corrupt. It's just that in Brazil there is this very consequentialist idea of morality: if it gets the results we want, who cares. If Moro gets PT out of power, who cares if he violates any ethical principles? Who cares if his Lula decision is 100% incompatible with his decision regarding the wife of Eduardo Cunha (a reminder, he found the wife of Eduardo Cunha not guilty because even though there were millions of dollars in accounts in her name that she used to buy really extravagant stuff, Moro argued that there was no evidence that she knew that those millions were ill-gotten). It's like the complaints that PT was "aparelhando" the state. The accusation being that they were nominating a bunch of people who were politically aligned with them. Now, did PT create those positions? No, they were the positions that normally went to the cousin of your local political ally, or some poo poo like that. A government nominating the failson of some local gangster to run the local post office? Business as usual. PT nominating someone from the party to run it? An outrageous attempt to infiltrate the state and spread their ideology. In other words, it's this: 
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Halser posted:Dilma was never imprisoned, she was just impeached. He corrected the tweet later on
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joepinetree posted:It's like the complaints that PT was "aparelhando" the state. The accusation being that they were nominating a bunch of people who were politically aligned with them. Now, did PT create those positions? No, they were the positions that normally went to the cousin of your local political ally, or some poo poo like that. A government nominating the failson of some local gangster to run the local post office? Business as usual. PT nominating someone from the party to run it? An outrageous attempt to infiltrate the state and spread their ideology. Not just that, but if PT really was trying to stack up state positions with its cronies for future benefit and dominance, hot -drat- they sucked at it. Pretty much every last person they appointed, especially to the courts, either sold them out or glanced nervously at their nails as the inquisition got in gear. We've got scions of other parties skating free after being caught with planes and choppers full of cocaine, but none of PT's famed political goons could clear their throat to say that maybe taking a dump on the constitution and due process with bizarre legal rationales that are used once and then quetly stowed away was bullshit. It's darkly funny that brazilian labour bent itself backward to try and please the military by boosting its status and pay, giving it internation missions it craved (Haiti) and integrating them into infra-structure jobs), as well as grant the Federal Police independence and respect, only to have them gleefully stab them at the first oportunity. There really is no placating. As Joe said, no one cares as long as the results are right at the end of the day. The supposedly educated, 'moderate' elite would do away with habeas corpus, free press and a number of other oh-so-valued Enlightenment values in an eyeblink if it felt they would spoil their goals. I wish I still believed that brazilian media will learn its lesson after wailing over the supposed press-hating bolivarianist labour governments for 10+ years only to be declared Enemy of the People in a very real way two months in by the monster they gestated, but we all know they'll be back to arguing a 1.3% tax hike is the -real- tyranny the moment any remotely progressive force comes to power.
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I absolutely agree that politics in brazil(and pretty much everything else) only works when the gears are greased with corruption. That mentality seeps into every loving aspect of life in the country, from politics to online games.Sephyr posted:Not just that, but if PT really was trying to stack up state positions with its cronies for future benefit and dominance, hot -drat- they sucked at it. I can only imagine the thing of poo poo that happened behind the curtains for Dilma to end up as a scapegoat and for Aécio "Coke Fiend" Neves to end up scot free. Pretty sure there was a lot of infighting in the worker's party too, but we'll probably only know the details decades from now. And hey, the stock exchange reached 100.000 points! The system works! Don't ask where that money is though.
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PT's downfall began in 2013, imo with the mass protests erupting, both the government and the usual rightist ghouls tried putting it down but as the movement evolved and got really big, the right-wing embraced it as anti-government and anti-PT, and pretty much controlled the narrative since then PT kept decrying "nazi black blocs" (lol) instead of using the originally left-wing anti bus fare protests to pass left policies, also Dilma made huge concessions that made the government look weak Dilma won 2014 by a slim margin but the tide was clearly turning, with lunatics being given the pulpit by the press and justices politically persecuting Lula more openly than ever before This all adds up to today, i can't believe 6 years ago i was being teargassed in front of Zero Hora only for the chudosphere to capitalize on it
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bagual posted:PT's downfall began in 2013, imo Agreed, but there were other signs as well. Hell, you can even set the movie Tropa de Elite as an early marker of the new brazilian chud wave. A movie that is blatantly a cautionary tale about how the system will bend both law enforcement and crime itself to its benefit (the sequel pretty much shouts it from the rooftops), and all everyone went crazy were the cool torture, the executions and the cult-ish aspects of the BOPE. If I had a dime for each well-born 'moderate' I saw quoting 'Faca na Caveira' and 'Pede pra sair' that year, I'd be able to afford a private med school. But yes, the 2013 protests showed blood in the water, and it was almost comical how the establishment did an about face on it. Monday editorials would be literally "These bums want everything for free, stop squealing about a 20 cent increase!" and by thursday it was "Hail the brave protesters, enemies of all that is corrupt and wrong in our country!" . My boss at the time literally went from callimg them useless parasites one day to calling me the next really excited that he had attended a protest and gotten tear gassed, it was rad!
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I think that the main outcome of 2013 was to shatter the image of invulnerability of the PT. It allowed the centrao to ask for more than before because they knew the tough spot PT was in, which is what led to Eduardo Cunha becoming the speaker of the house and the ultimate downfall of Dilma. That said, it is clear that if it wasn't through the political process, it would have been something else, as Lava Jato had a very clear goal in mind.
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joepinetree posted:I think that the main outcome of 2013 was to shatter the image of invulnerability of the PT. It allowed the centrao to ask for more than before because they knew the tough spot PT was in, which is what led to Eduardo Cunha becoming the speaker of the house and the ultimate downfall of Dilma. That said, it is clear that if it wasn't through the political process, it would have been something else, as Lava Jato had a very clear goal in mind. Oh yeah. gently caress, I remember that when I came to Argentina in 2014 the big moral scandal of the day was that some government secretary or minister had out a tapioca on his corporate card and everyone was shocked, shocked! that such an egregious abuse had been comitted.
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