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Why does would the EU want to keep May in the game? She cannot pass this deal with this government, just let it die already so they can call a GE
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Darth Walrus posted:There's only so much the media can do to cover up 'holy poo poo where did all my food go'? Journalists might remain reluctant to call the ERG out, but the mob outside their windows with torches and pitchforks may not share their qualms on the matter. Hiya UKMT, I see things haven't got less chaotic since I last looked in (health and life made me go internet light for over a month and I'm not reading roughly 20,000 posts to catch up). Relevant to the above scenario (and hopefully not already discussed) and something to add to your theoretical models of "howfuckedarewereally?" - I have it on very good authority that police leave in Scotland has been cancelled from March 30th onwards and that officers with certain specialist training have been told to expect to be deployed to Northern Ireland or Wales. Anyone who remembers the miners strike will recognise the playbook.
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Mar 18, 2019 20:48
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Why is Piers not being a snivelly little poo poo in here Probably didn't want to get made look like a total oval office. I mean it doesn't stop him the rest of the time but you must think at this point that at least some people in the media know that you don't gently caress with Akala or he will school you.
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Mar 18, 2019 20:48
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Dog Friday posted:Why does would the EU want to keep May in the game? She cannot pass this deal with this government, just let it die already so they can call a GE They want a corbyn government as much as May does. A corbyn deal, yes. A corbyn government, no.
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Mar 18, 2019 20:49
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The recent polls seem to all have the tories up by a significant margin. What use is a GE if it will just return the same idiots? Edit: https://britainelects.com/polling/westminster/
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Mar 18, 2019 20:50
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Dog Friday posted:Why does would the EU want to keep May in the game? She cannot pass this deal with this government, just let it die already so they can call a GE they're so hosed off with the whole process that they just want it to be over with as soon as possible
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Mar 18, 2019 20:50
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Dog Friday posted:Why does would the EU want to keep May in the game? She cannot pass this deal with this government, just let it die already so they can call a GE They negotiated this agreement and would like it to pass as they've expended a lot of effort and internal political capital selling it among the member states - the alternative is hoping someone can bang together a majority for another deal (which the EU would then have to negotiwt and attempt to sell to member states who's tempers are getting increasingly frayed) which based on parliamentary arthimetic seems like an outside chance.
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Mar 18, 2019 20:53
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Gunder posted:The recent polls seem to all have the tories up by a significant margin. What use is a GE if it will just return the same idiots? Polls outside of an actual election campaign are entirely pointless. Even those within a campaign are... variable. Do you honestly not remember 2017 at all?
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Mar 18, 2019 20:53
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WhatEvil posted:Probably didn't want to get made look like a total oval office. Maybe he's been on the Vegan sausage rolls.
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Mar 18, 2019 20:55
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Obliterati posted:If he did that's not representative, as by convention no major party will contest the Speaker's seat It wasn't Farage but a UKIPer did stand (as did a Green and an Independent) https://democracy.buckscc.gov.uk/mgElectionAreaResults.aspx?XXR=0&ID=313&RPID=0 John Bercow ---------------------The Speaker re-elected ---- 34299------65.1% -----Elected Michael John Sheppard-----Green----------------------------------8574 ------16.3%------Not elected Scott Raven------------------------Independent ----------------------5638 ------10.7%------Not elected Brian James Mapletoft -----UKIP ----------------------------------4168 ---------7.9%------Not elected
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Mar 18, 2019 20:55
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Gunder posted:The recent polls seem to all have the tories up by a significant margin. What use is a GE if it will just return the same idiots? https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1106812341440516097 But as someone else posted, not particularly useful outside a GE period.
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Mar 18, 2019 20:57
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:It wasn't Farage but a UKIPer did stand (as did a Green and an Independent) I think he ran in Bucks in 2010, since then he's contended hosed seaside towns.
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Mar 18, 2019 21:04
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Firos posted:Today has been unexpectedly fantastic. Lols all around. Your new avatar is awesome I should crowdsource a replacement for mine as it came from a star citizen thread nonsense 'post for a terrible avatar' and get some goon who needs money to design one (on the can't take it with me principle) and give cash to Lowtax for being not dead yet.
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Mar 18, 2019 21:05
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That parachuting vegan sausage roll with stilettos never became a gangtag so I would suggest that it is available for avataring
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Mar 18, 2019 21:13
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Party Boat posted:I think he ran in Bucks in 2010, since then he's contended hosed seaside towns. UKIP head office was briefly in Buckingham which struck me as odd at the time. He does definitely have some link to Buckingham (Bercow's constituency) but idk the extent of it.
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Mar 18, 2019 21:15
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Gunder posted:The recent polls seem to all have the tories up by a significant margin. What use is a GE if it will just return the same idiots? I mean, a big enough Tory win would mean we left on whatever terms May chose. That's what she was trying for in 2017, after all. The current hung-parliament-at-the-mercy-of-the-DUP-and-ERG is kind of an anomalous situation historically speaking, and in any of these circumstances: 1) Labour win outright 2) Labour/SNP coalition 3) Labour/LibDem coalition 4) Tory/LibDem coalition 5) Tories win outright We either don't Brexit at all, since the SNP and LibDems could demand it as part of the coalition deal, or we soft Brexit, or we slightly harder but still not No Deal Brexit. All of these are better than the current situation when it comes to Brexit, though obviously the last two options are pretty poo poo for everyone not rich otherwise.
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Mar 18, 2019 21:18
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feedmegin posted:we soft Brexit On the subject of soft brexit, what is the general consensus on major point to suck-ness? For example, soft brexit with: * YES freedom of goods, NO freedom of services, NO freedom of movement = Worse for most * YES freedom of goods, services, movement = Better but not great for most? Trying to wrap my head around what precisely is bad about soft brexit and how (and I don't mean that to sound like I'd prefer it vs. staying in)... I have a feeling I'll need to know for the upcoming weeks.
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Mar 18, 2019 21:28
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The main problem with soft Brexit is that we'd remain subject to EU regulations while losing all input into making them, so the EU could quite easily gently caress us over if they felt like it (basically the situation the Kippers shout about us being in right now).
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Mar 18, 2019 21:30
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Do you honestly not remember 2017 at all? I don't remember polling. Or much of anything really.
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Mar 18, 2019 21:33
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Heners_UK posted:On the subject of soft brexit, what is the general consensus on major point to suck-ness? the four freedoms aren't up for negotiation and never will be, the difference between soft and hard brexit is yes/no to all "no" is taking a shotgun in the face to your economy (not that most parts of the UK would notice the service industries leaving until the knockon effects come crashing down) while losing all of your trade deals and negotiating incomparably worse ones because the EU has an army of international trade experts and we have Olly Robbins "yes" means you abide by all the EU trade deals, product standards, and workers rights; the only difference is losing a seat at the table. This would have made the UK significantly better off had it been the case from 1979-present, but now we have a major party that isn't 99.5% pure vermin who hate clean water and the poor, so what's the point?
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Mar 18, 2019 21:34
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The main problem with soft brexit is that it doesn't give the appearance of changing the status quo in the ways that the brexit voting public desired. The solution to that problem is to no longer be ruled by a party that will seek to appeal to the political right.
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Mar 18, 2019 21:40
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https://twitter.com/ByDonkeys/status/1107741361355276289
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Mar 18, 2019 21:41
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wait they were actually charged money to go on this? loving 
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Mar 18, 2019 21:43
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yeah lol also lmao https://twitter.com/LiamFox/status/1107720401512206336
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Mar 18, 2019 21:44
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So today on my facey-the-book I encountered a hard right bogot commenting on a friend's facebook page about how the christchurch terrorist was actually a socialist, and by the way hitler was a socilist and socialism is the root of all evil etc. And I looked through his history and what a surprise I found misogyny and homophobia and racism and transphobnia as 'jokes' and pro-trump and the only surprise was how he's actually pro-vaccination (albeit he's british but of course thinks brexit is wonderful) And rather than just my ongoing shredding of his points and providing quotations, I've called out every person who was 'friends' with him to ask them to justify it And I'd like to think this is the cancer in our society, and i'm not sure if it's a move beyond the geek social fallacy or what, but this is one person's explanation on how they know he's awful but... quote:I don't see what he posts because i mute him, but i don't really believe he thinks those things I am of course deleting everyone who continues to give this racist, misogynistic fuckhead a platform in the future.
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Mar 18, 2019 21:49
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Jose posted:yeah lol phew, my indie music imports are fine
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Mar 18, 2019 21:52
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Jose posted:yeah lol https://twitter.com/PhilipHammondUK/status/1107739839850602499 phwoar, bringing out the big guns today. suddenly Brexit doesn't seem so bad
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Mar 18, 2019 21:54
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This Fergus is a big old oval office
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Mar 18, 2019 21:55
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Jose posted:yeah lol Ah yes, that gigantic trading power, Liechtenstein.
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Mar 18, 2019 21:56
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AceOfFlames posted:Ah yes, that gigantic trading power, Liechtenstein. Well, I mean, the banking transfers between the London City and Liechtenstein every day could probably pay for a decent house for everyone in the UK.
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Mar 18, 2019 21:59
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Mar 18, 2019 22:03
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AceOfFlames posted:Ah yes, that gigantic trading power, Liechtenstein. As wealth flows from Britain's great ports to and from the trade posts of mighty Liechtenstein, all shall be reminded in awe of this New Jerusalem's majesty, shining city upon a hill that it will remain.
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Mar 18, 2019 22:08
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Said it on twitter as well but, can you imagine if this was said about a synagogue, by a Labour member, after the Pittsburgh Tree of Life shooting?
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Mar 18, 2019 22:10
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https://twitter.com/AmberRuddHR/status/1107749946420281344 definitely no GE coming, nuh uh
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Mar 18, 2019 22:16
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Azza Bamboo posted:The main problem with soft brexit is that it doesn't give the appearance of changing the status quo in the ways that the brexit voting public desired. The solution to that problem is to no longer be ruled by a party that will seek to appeal to the political right. Hey dude, what email would you like me to drop this gift certificate to? I thought you could just buy people upgrades directly like buying an avatar, but apparently I misremembered and that is not the case 
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Mar 18, 2019 22:18
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Bardeh posted:https://twitter.com/AmberRuddHR/status/1107749946420281344 yo Amber what was ur 2017 majority again lol #dolequeue4u
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Mar 18, 2019 22:20
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Renaissance Robot posted:Hey dude, what email would you like me to drop this gift certificate to? az911@hotmail.co.uk
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Mar 18, 2019 22:23
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subscribed you to a tory newsletter
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Mar 18, 2019 22:25
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Sent, enjoy getting harassed by Pissflaps in PMs!
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