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Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

They’re going to walk.

They already investigated themselves and found no wrongdoing so why shouldn’t they

The article tries to be cagey about this by saying the cops refused to say what the outcome of the investigation was but we all know we’d be hearing more about it if it had concluded the cops executed a teen girl.

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FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

Fallom posted:

They already investigated themselves and found no wrongdoing so why shouldn’t they

The article tries to be cagey about this by saying the cops refused to say what the outcome of the investigation was but we all know we’d be hearing more about it if it had concluded the cops executed a teen girl.

I'm assuming they never even considered testing the victim for sexual trauma.

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD

FAUXTON posted:

I'm assuming they never even considered testing the victim for sexual trauma.

"she was asking for it"

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 5 days!

Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

They’re going to walk.

quote:

An internal investigation was launched after her death, which has since been concluded, though police have declined to comment on its outcome.

A medical examiner confirmed on Thursday that Wilson died of a suicide.

Body cam footage that may have been able to answer any questions about the incident is unavailable.

Slim Pickens
Jan 12, 2007

Grimey Drawer
At first you think "Pretty brave of Fox News to ever disparage the honorable boys in blue" and then you read the comments

Woof Blitzer
Dec 29, 2012

[-]

Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

They’re going to walk.

The plank :blastu:

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

Fallom posted:

Virginia cops executed a handcuffed teenager in a traffic stop and are currently trying to say she managed to grab a gun and contort to shoot herself in the mouth while handcuffed behind her back. Naturally the bodycam mysteriously became disabled so the cops lost an easy way to prove their doubtlessly accurate version of the events:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/woman-shot-herself-in-the-head-while-cuffed-with-hands-behind-her-back-during-traffic-stop-police-say

This still sounds suspicious as gently caress, but according to the article the body cam got knocked off during the arrest. It should still be actively recording, it would just be on the ground instead off on the officer's chest.

dscruffy1
Nov 22, 2007

Look out!
Nap Ghost
Supposedly she did these miraculous contortions while inside the vehicle. Wouldn't there probably be some recording on the dashcam?

e: it says she grabbed a weapon out of "the Lexus", which I assume is what they were driving when stopped.

Slim Pickens
Jan 12, 2007

Grimey Drawer
You'd have to grab the gun barely able to see it if at all, slide your arms down you legs and shoot between your legs into your headnothing but net, so possible I guess but sounds suspect as all gently caress.

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

If someone dies in your custody and your body cam just happens to be non-functional at that exact time, the courts, public, and employing PD should all assume the worst of the officer. I bet they'd stop mysteriously breaking at the worst times, and I bet there'd be a lot fewer deaths.

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

Best Friends posted:

If someone dies in your custody and your body cam just happens to be non-functional at that exact time, the courts, public, and employing PD should all assume the worst of the officer. I bet they'd stop mysteriously breaking at the worst times, and I bet there'd be a lot fewer deaths.

Chichevache posted:

This still sounds suspicious as gently caress, but according to the article the body cam got knocked off during the arrest. It should still be actively recording, it would just be on the ground instead off on the officer's chest.

dscruffy1
Nov 22, 2007

Look out!
Nap Ghost

Best Friends posted:

If someone dies in your custody and your body cam just happens to be non-functional at that exact time, the courts, public, and employing PD should all assume the worst of the officer. I bet they'd stop mysteriously breaking at the worst times, and I bet there'd be a lot fewer deaths.

I was thinking about this in the shower and I guess the standard of reasonable doubt/innocent until proven guilty applies? I mean yeah, there's all sorts of issues with stuff like "privileged position" and "literally who else could have shot her pray tell, did the bullet come from your gun" I would think.

But trying to hold the police accountable for questionable actions has gone so great so far.

Crakkerjakk
Mar 14, 2016


Best Friends posted:

If someone dies in your custody and your body cam just happens to be non-functional at that exact time, the courts, public, and employing PD should all assume the worst of the officer. I bet they'd stop mysteriously breaking at the worst times, and I bet there'd be a lot fewer deaths.

IIRC this was one recommendation from the ACLU draft legislation for body camera implementation. If bodycam footage is not available when it should be, the person on the other end of the body camera's statements should be held to some level of evidence that is assumed to be true unless clearly disproven by contradictory evidence, or something like that.

Rebuttable presumption, that's the verbiage.

Crakkerjakk fucked around with this message at 23:33 on Mar 18, 2019

Crakkerjakk
Mar 14, 2016


Here's the link:

https://www.aclu.org/other/model-act-regulating-use-wearable-body-cameras-law-enforcement


quote:

Be it enacted by the [NAME OF THE STATE LEGISLATIVE BODY]:

For a discussion of the principal issues raised by police body cameras, see also our White Paper.
Section 1.

(a) Only law enforcement officers with the authority to conduct searches and make arrests shall be permitted to wear a body camera. Such body cameras shall be worn in a location and manner that maximizes the camera’s ability to capture video footage of the officer’s activities.

(b) Both the video and audio recording functions of the body camera shall be activated whenever a law enforcement officer is responding to a call for service or at the initiation of any other law enforcement or investigative encounter between a law enforcement officer and a member of the public, except that when an immediate threat to the officer’s life or safety makes activating the camera impossible or dangerous, the officer shall activate the camera at the first reasonable opportunity to do so. The body camera shall not be deactivated until the encounter has fully concluded and the law enforcement officer leaves the scene.

(c) A law enforcement officer who is wearing a body camera shall notify the subject(s) of the recording that they are being recorded by a body camera as close to the inception of the encounter as is reasonably possible.

(d) Notwithstanding the requirements of subsection (b):

Prior to entering a private residence without a warrant or in non-exigent circumstances, a law enforcement officer shall ask the occupant if the occupant wants the officer to discontinue use of the officer’s body camera. If the occupant responds affirmatively, the law enforcement officer shall immediately discontinue use of the body camera;
When interacting with an apparent crime victim, a law enforcement officer shall, as soon as practicable, ask the apparent crime victim, if the apparent crime victim wants the officer to discontinue use of the officer’s body camera. If the apparent crime victim responds affirmatively, the law enforcement officer shall immediately discontinue use of the body camera; and
When interacting with a person seeking to anonymously report a crime or assist in an ongoing law enforcement investigation, a law enforcement officer shall, as soon as practicable, ask the person seeking to remain anonymous, if the person seeking to remain anonymous wants the officer to discontinue use of the officer’s body camera. If the person seeking to remain anonymous responds affirmatively, the law enforcement officer shall immediately discontinue use of the body camera.

(e)All law enforcement offers to discontinue the use of a body camera made pursuant to subsection (d), and the responses thereto, shall be recorded by the body camera prior to discontinuing use of the body camera.

(f) Body cameras shall not be used surreptitiously.

(g) Body cameras shall not be used to gather intelligence information based on First Amendment protected speech, associations, or religion, or to record activity that is unrelated to a response to a call for service or a law enforcement or investigative encounter between a law enforcement officer and a member of the public, and shall not be equipped with or subjected to any real time facial recognition technologies.

(h) Law enforcement officers shall not activate a body camera while on the grounds of any public, private or parochial elementary or secondary school, except when responding to an imminent threat to life or health.

(i) Body camera video footage shall be retained by the law enforcement agency that employs the officer whose camera captured the footage, or an authorized agent thereof, for six (6) months from the date it was recorded, after which time such footage shall be permanently deleted.

During the six (6) month retention period, the following persons shall have the right to inspect the body camera footage:
Any person who is a subject of body camera video footage, and/or their designated legal counsel;
A parent of a minor subject of body camera video footage, and/or their designated legal counsel;
The spouse, next of kin or legally authorized designee of a deceased subject of body camera video footage, and/or their designated legal counsel;
A law enforcement officer whose body camera recorded the video footage, and/or their designated legal counsel, subject to the limitations and restrictions in this Act;
The superior officer of a law enforcement officer whose body camera recorded the video footage, subject to the limitations and restrictions in this Act; and
Any defense counsel who claims, pursuant to a written affidavit, to have a reasonable basis for believing a video may contain evidence that exculpates a client.
The right to inspect subject to subsection (i)(1) shall not include the right to possess a copy of the body camera video footage, unless the release of the body camera footage is otherwise authorized by this Act or by another applicable law.
When a body camera fails to capture some or all of the audio or video of an incident due to malfunction, displacement of camera, or any other cause, any audio or video footage that is captured shall be treated the same as any other body camera audio or video footage under the law.

(j) Notwithstanding the retention and deletion requirements in subsection (i):

Video footage shall be automatically retained for no less than three (3) years if the video footage captures an interaction or event involving:
Any use of force; or
An encounter about which a complaint has been registered by a subject of the video footage.
Body camera video footage shall also be retained for no less than three (3) years if a longer retention period is voluntarily requested by:
The law enforcement officer whose body camera recorded the video footage, if that officer reasonably asserts the video footage has evidentiary or exculpatory value;
Any law enforcement officer who is a subject of the video footage, if that officer reasonably asserts the video footage has evidentiary or exculpatory value;
Any superior officer of a law enforcement officer whose body camera recorded the video footage or who is a subject of the video footage, if that superior officer reasonably asserts the video footage has evidentiary or exculpatory value;
Any law enforcement officer, if the video footage is being retained solely and exclusively for police training purposes;
Any member of the public who is a subject of the video footage;
Any parent or legal guardian of a minor who is a subject of the video footage; or
A deceased subject’s spouse, next of kin, or legally authorized designee.

(k) To effectuate subsections (j)(2)(E), (j)(2)(F) and (j)(2)(G), any member of the public who is a subject of video footage, the parent or legal guardian of a minor who is a subject of the video footage, or a deceased subject’s next of kin or legally authorized designee, shall be permitted to review the specific video footage in question in order to make a determination as to whether they will voluntarily request it be subjected to a three (3) year retention period.

(l) All video footage of an interaction or event captured by a body camera, if that interaction or event is identified with reasonable specificity and requested by a member of the public, shall be provided to the person or entity making the request in accordance with the procedures for requesting and providing government records set forth in the [NAME OF STATE OPEN RECORDS ACT/FOIA LAW].

Notwithstanding the public release requirements in subsection (l), the following categories of video footage shall not be released to the public in the absence of express written permission from the non-law enforcement subject(s) of the video footage:
Video footage not subject to a minimum three (3) year retention period pursuant to subsection (j); and
Video footage that is subject to a minimum three (3) year retention period solely and exclusively pursuant to subsection (j)(1)(B) or (j)(2).
Notwithstanding any time periods established for acknowledging and responding to records requests in [NAME OF STATE OPEN RECORDS ACT/FOIA LAW], responses to requests for video footage that is subject to a minimum three (3) year retention period pursuant to subsection (j)(1)(A), where a subject of the video footage is recorded being killed, shot by a firearm, or grievously injured, shall be prioritized and the requested video footage shall be provided as expeditiously as possible, but in no circumstances later than five (5) days following receipt of the request.
Whenever doing so is necessary to protect personal privacy, the right to a fair trial, the identity of a confidential source or crime victim, or the life or physical safety of any person appearing in video footage, redaction technology may be used to obscure the face and other personally identifying characteristics of that person, including the tone of the person’s voice, provided the redaction does not interfere with a viewer’s ability to fully, completely, and accurately comprehend the events captured on the video footage.
When redaction is performed on video footage pursuant to subsection (l)(3), an unedited, original version of the video footage shall be retained pursuant to the requirements of subsection (i) and (j).
Except pursuant to the rules for the redaction of video footage set forth in subsection (l)(3) or where it is otherwise expressly authorized by this Act, no other editing or alteration of video footage, including a reduction of the video footage’s resolution, shall be permitted.
The provisions governing the production of body camera video footage to the public in this Act shall take precedence over all other state and local laws, rules, and regulations to the contrary.

(m) Body camera video footage may not be withheld from the public on the basis that it is an investigatory record or was compiled for law enforcement purposes where any person under investigation or whose conduct is under review is a police officer or other law enforcement employee and the video footage relates to that person’s on-the-job conduct.

(n) Any video footage retained beyond six (6) months solely and exclusively pursuant to subsection (j)(2)(D) shall not be admissible as evidence in any criminal or civil legal or administrative proceeding.

(o) No government agency or official, or law enforcement agency, officer, or official may publicly disclose, release, or share body camera video footage unless:

Doing so is expressly authorized pursuant to this Act or another applicable law; or
The video footage is subject to public release pursuant to subsection (l), and not exempted from public release pursuant to subsection (l)(1).

(p) No law enforcement officer shall review or receive an accounting of any body camera video footage that is subject to a minimum three (3) year retention period pursuant to subsection (j)(1) prior to completing any required initial reports, statements, and interviews regarding the recorded event, unless doing so is necessary, while in the field, to address an immediate threat to life or safety.

(q) Video footage that is not subject to a minimum three (3) year retention period shall not be:

Viewed by any superior officer of a law enforcement officer whose body camera recorded the footage absent a specific allegation of misconduct; or
Subjected to facial recognition or any other form of automated analysis or analytics of any kind, unless:
A judicial warrant providing authorization is obtained;
The judicial warrant specifies the precise video recording to which the authorization applies;
The authorizing court finds there is probable cause to believe the video footage contains evidence that is relevant to an ongoing felony criminal investigation; and
The judicial warrant is consistent with the prohibitions contained in Section 1(g) of this Act.

(r) Video footage shall not be divulged or used by any law enforcement agency for any commercial or other non-law enforcement purpose.

(s) Where a law enforcement agency authorizes a third-party to act as its agent in maintaining body camera footage, the agent shall not be permitted to independently access, view, or alter any video footage, except to delete videos as required by law or agency retention policies.

(t) Should any law enforcement officer, employee, or agent fail to adhere to the recording or retention requirements contained in this chapter, intentionally interfere with a body camera’s ability to accurately capture video footage, or otherwise manipulate the video footage captured by a body camera during or after its operation:

Appropriate disciplinary action shall be taken against the individual officer, employee or agent;
A rebuttable evidentiary presumption shall be adopted in favor of criminal defendants who reasonably assert that exculpatory evidence was destroyed or not captured; and
A rebuttable evidentiary presumption shall be adopted on behalf of civil plaintiffs suing the government, a law enforcement agency and/or law enforcement officers for damages based on police misconduct who reasonably assert that evidence supporting their claim was destroyed or not captured.

(u) The disciplinary action requirement and rebuttable presumptions in subsection (t) may be overcome by contrary evidence or proof of exigent circumstances that made compliance impossible.

(v) Whenever a law enforcement officer equipped with a body camera is involved in, a witness to, or within viewable sight range of either a police use of force that results in a death, a police use of force where the discharge of a firearm results in an injury, or any law enforcement officer conduct that becomes the subject of a criminal investigation:

Such officer’s body camera shall be immediately seized by the officer’s agency or department, or the agency or department conducting the related criminal investigation, and maintained in accordance with the rules governing the preservation of evidence;
All data on the seized body camera shall be maintained in accordance with the rules governing the preservation of evidence; and
A copy of the data on the seized body camera shall made in accordance with prevailing forensic standards for data collection and reproduction and shall be made available to the public where required pursuant to Section 1(l) of this Act.

(w) Any body camera video footage recorded in contravention of this Act or any other applicable law may not be offered as evidence by any government entity, agency, department, prosecutorial office, or any other subdivision thereof in any criminal or civil action or proceeding against any member of the public.

(x) Any law enforcement policy or other guidance regarding body cameras, their use, or the video footage therefrom that is adopted by a state, county, or local government entity or agency, including any police or sheriff’s department, shall be made publicly available on that entity’s or agency’s website.

(y) Nothing in this chapter shall be read to contravene any laws governing the maintenance, production, and destruction of evidence in criminal investigations and prosecutions.

(z) As used in this Act:

“Law enforcement officer” shall mean any person authorized by law to conduct searches and effectuate arrests and who is employed by the state, by a state subsidiary, or by a county, municipal, or metropolitan form of government.
“Subject of the video footage” shall mean any identifiable law enforcement officer or any identifiable suspect, victim, detainee, conversant, injured party, or other similarly situated person who appears on the body camera recording, and shall not include people who only incidentally appear on the recording.
“Use of force” shall mean any action by a law enforcement officer that (A) results in death, injury, complaint of injury, or complaint of pain that persists beyond the use of a physical control hold, or (B) involves the use of a weapon, including a personal body weapon, chemical agent, impact weapon, extended range impact weapon, sonic weapon, sensory weapon, conducted energy device, or firearm, against a member of the public, or (C) involves any intentional pointing of a firearm at a member of the public.
“Video footage” shall mean any images or audio recorded by a body camera.

SECTION 2. This Act shall take effect [DATE]

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


It’s too loving dubious for words. Let’s see a reenactment. I’m assuming there was magically gunshot residue all over her body too. The coroner is suspect as all hell in this.

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

Does VA even have legit medical examiners or is it like here in buttfuck SC where it's an elected position, in my county's case held by the #1 undertaker, who also had to do a stint as acting sheriff when the sheriff went to forever jail?

Along similar lines this interview with another SC sheriff is :yikes:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.scnow.com/news/local/article_f6e4d750-4837-11e9-bb55-57391a685e34.amp.html

shame on an IGA fucked around with this message at 23:44 on Mar 18, 2019

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

They’re going to walk.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
https://twitter.com/bradheath/status/1107773391208153088

https://twitter.com/Popehat/status/1107776212766617600

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/nunes-files-bombshell-defamation-suit-against-twitter-seeks-250m-for-anti-conservative-shadow-bans-smears

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING
https://twitter.com/politico/status/1107710418372431873?s=21

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy



:thermidor:

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Just cut him loose and let him either switch parties or lose. He's just that worthless.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

Casimir Radon posted:

Just cut him loose and let him either switch parties or lose. He's just that worthless.

Eh. He's up in 2022 and if it ain't getting past Manchin, it ain't getting out of the McConnell Senate.

Focus on the really good poo poo, like this from the Nunes lawsuit against twitter:

https://twitter.com/RockShrimp/status/1107782380893454340

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


facialimpediment posted:

Eh. He's up in 2022 and if it ain't getting past Manchin, it ain't getting out of the McConnell Senate.

Focus on the really good poo poo, like this from the Nunes lawsuit against twitter:

https://twitter.com/RockShrimp/status/1107782380893454340

This is loving hilarious.

Stravag
Jun 7, 2009

Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

They’re going to walk.


I mean i was in timmonsville sc today and the local pd squadcar had "all lives matter" across the back so wouldnt they

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

Stravag posted:

I mean i was in timmonsville sc today and the local pd squadcar had "all lives matter" across the back so wouldnt they

lol that's the sheriff whose interview I linked earlier

A Bad Poster
Sep 25, 2006
Seriously, shut the fuck up.

:dukedog:
It would be nice if Disney sued the poo poo out of everyone using the Punisher skull.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
They're much more likely to start sponsoring them

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

Taste the High Country

Milo and POTUS posted:

They're much more likely to start sponsoring them

So long as they pay the licensing fee

Internet Wizard
Aug 9, 2009

BANDAIDS DON'T FIX BULLET HOLES

facialimpediment posted:

Check out the MILCON projects being cut because of Donnie's wall. Took DoD a longass time to cough up this list.

https://twitter.com/frankthorp/status/1107742512645443585?s=19

A couple much needed medical facilities for the Marines, some Sigint unit facilities, F-35 facilities, a whooooooole lot of middle schools.

Definitely less important

Reign Of Pain
May 1, 2005

Nap Ghost

Chichevache posted:

This still sounds suspicious as gently caress, but according to the article the body cam got knocked off during the arrest. It should still be actively recording, it would just be on the ground instead off on the officer's chest.

It just says that it was knocked off. It doesn't say that it was recovered. I assume the data is on the camera or is it sent somewhere else as it records through bluetooth/cell phone?

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

Reign Of Pain posted:

It just says that it was knocked off. It doesn't say that it was recovered. I assume the data is on the camera or is it sent somewhere else as it records through bluetooth/cell phone?

Its saved on the camera itself. There may be a docking port in the car or else at headquarters. Assuming they're using the Axon 2, which most departments do, it shouldn't be disabled by falling off the holder. The off switch is a toggle on top of the camera which has to be switched to the side to turn off. It should be relatively shock proof, so falling off the magnetic holder still shouldn't stop the recording process.

I'm just trying to point out that, if the camera was rolling when first contact was made, the footage didn't "mysteriously disappear". The only way the footage would be gone is if the camera itself went missing. That would be suspicious for sure.

Of course this is all predicated on them using the Axon camera. Anything else and I have no idea how it works.

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING
https://twitter.com/robrousseau/status/1107764656330993665?s=21

:hmmyes:

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
Beto is Instagram: The Candidate

Andrew Yang is Reddit: The Candidate

https://twitter.com/woodruffbets/status/1107810067838054400

LongDarkNight
Oct 25, 2010

It's like watching the collapse of Western civilization in fast forward.
Oven Wrangler

God grant me the confidence of a mediocre white dude.

Woodchip
Mar 28, 2010
Intactivists...do they have a Gadsden flag wearing a turtleneck?

E: don’t snip on me

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

LongDarkNight posted:

God grant me the confidence of a mediocre white dude.

No, we've lost enough yoga studios.

MRC48B
Apr 2, 2012

what the gently caress is an "intactivist"


EDIT: oh god I didn't want to know the answer to that.

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

anti circumcision

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

facialimpediment posted:

Eh. He's up in 2022 and if it ain't getting past Manchin, it ain't getting out of the McConnell Senate.

Focus on the really good poo poo, like this from the Nunes lawsuit against twitter:

https://twitter.com/RockShrimp/status/1107782380893454340

Manchin was just reelected in 2018, so he won't be gone until 2024 at the earliest.

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pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

facialimpediment posted:

Beto is Instagram: The Candidate

Andrew Yang is Reddit: The Candidate

https://twitter.com/woodruffbets/status/1107810067838054400

Tbf I’m glad this issue is becoming a part of the campaign trail. It only took 15 years after the release of Silent Hill 4: The Room for the circumsision debate to come to the forefront, but here we are.

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