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Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

Pimblor posted:

Excellent point, but that's configuration not code. Also weird that it does send it down the pipe every time, I don't do apache or whatever it is the kids think is hip these days but it shouldn't be that hard to fix ... surely?

No, it’s code to generate different resource names every time the asset updates, because you have to alter the references to them. I’ve worked on systems that do this for a very big site. I assure you that it’s code and not just a server config issue to do it properly.

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sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









The Kins posted:

when i grow up i wanna draw the evil animals on these packages for a living

just sitting around in a little shack when the special phone rings. pick it up, a voice on the other side says "horses are legally pests now". hang up, sit down at the drawing board, lovingly render a satanic equine wearing a bib sitting down to eat a plate of non-distinct crops

aegof
Mar 2, 2011

bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m posted:

Goons, 2009: Caring about things is gay
Goons, 2019: Caring about things is gay and being gay owns

minato
Jun 7, 2004

cutty cain't hang, say 7-up.
Taco Defender

prefect posted:

wouldn't the punk rock scare off the birds? :confused:

Uptime Sinclair posted:

that was the experience many young men have had, yes

Pimblor
Sep 13, 2003
bob
Grimey Drawer

Subjunctive posted:

No, it’s code to generate different resource names every time the asset updates, because you have to alter the references to them. I’ve worked on systems that do this for a very big site. I assure you that it’s code and not just a server config issue to do it properly.

wait just a second, i've worked on a few sites that i didn't write but ended up owning that were federal, large public facing websites

not one of those idiots writing things loving made up random names for serving static content

why in the gently caress would you do that

Digamma-F-Wau
Mar 22, 2016

It is curious and wants to accept all kinds of challenges

Resident Idiot posted:

Ed laments the rise in gonzo porn - it's not real to him unless there's a pool boy or a pizza delivery, dammit!

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

Pimblor posted:

wait just a second, i've worked on a few sites that i didn't write but ended up owning that were federal, large public facing websites

not one of those idiots writing things loving made up random names for serving static content

why in the gently caress would you do that

You do it because then you ideally only have to serve a given version of an asset a single time to any given client, like I said. It lets you set expiry way in the future, maximizing the chances that the client caches a resource hard enough that it won’t even check over the network on next load. When you have a new version of the resource you generate a new name, often but not always by hashing, and the client never requests an out-of-date version, so you don’t have to worry about a client seeing a mix of versions of different deploys. (There are other tricks too, like back-dated Last-Modified headers, which improve the non-validating hit rate.)

You can see the results of it by opening the network console tab and watching the script requests go by on facebook.com after a hard reload and then another visit. The subscripts are generated names, and you can see that they’re set to expire a year or so in the future. It saves a lot of network requests and bandwidth both, but it requires a bit of code to set it up. Many other top-100 sites do it too, usually each in different ways. You can do it by hand or semi-manually if your resources don’t change very often and you’re diligent about making sure the transitive closure of resources is intact each time.

So that’s why the gently caress. You can use tools like webpack or gulp to do this today, if it’s not worth rolling your own. Maybe something to tell your buddies back on those Large Federal Sites!

Subjunctive has a new favorite as of 03:47 on Mar 17, 2019

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
there's not really that big a true separation between configuration and code. the converse of the old adage that code is data is that data is also code. the cowboy attitude peeps have of configuration is the reason it edges out actual code bugs as a source of turbofuck outages

https://danluu.com/postmortem-lessons/

Pimblor
Sep 13, 2003
bob
Grimey Drawer

Subjunctive posted:

You do it because then you ideally only have to serve a given version of an asset a single time to any given client, like I said. It lets you set expiry way in the future, maximizing the chances that the client caches a resource hard enough that it won’t even check over the network on next load. When you have a new version of the resource you generate a new name, often but not always by hashing, and the client never requests an out-of-date version, so you don’t have to worry about a client seeing a mix of versions of different deploys. (There are other tricks too, like back-dated Last-Modified headers, which improve the non-validating hit rate.)

You can see the results of it by opening the network console tab and watching the script requests go by on facebook.com after a hard reload and then another visit. The subscripts are generated names, and you can see that they’re set to expire a year or so in the future. It saves a lot of network requests and bandwidth both, but it requires a bit of code to set it up. Many other top-100 sites do it too, usually each in different ways. You can do it by hand or semi-manually if your resources don’t change very often and you’re diligent about making sure the transitive closure of resources is intact each time.

So that’s why the gently caress. You can use tools like webpack or gulp to do this today, if it’s not worth rolling your own. Maybe something to tell your buddies back on those Large Federal Sites!

I didn't explain myself well enough and was trying to be snarky, I am familiar with webpack and how it does that but I was fixated on the static asset side which in my head meant images and not bundles. And yes I know you can include images, css, etc. in a bundle. I thought it was good enough to call it allbuttons.gif and set an expiry date on it. I will stop now as these aren't funny forums quotes!

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you

Blinkman987 posted:

You can get FunkoPops made for anything really so long as your IP isn’t complete poo poo. You’ll be giving them away as promos instead of selling them.


TVsVeryOwn posted:

So what you're saying is we should make lowtax into a Funko?


H110Hawk posted:

But what would the little bobble connect to?

Clitch
Feb 26, 2002

I lived through
Donald Trump's presidency
and all I got was
this lousy virus

:drat:

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord
Funko pops aren't bobbleheads, so they're actually perfect for the 'tax

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Some of them are.

I don't know if it's still the case but I remember reading the Marvel ones at the beginning had to be so they didn't infringe on someone else's Marvel action figure licensing deal.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747
Honestly I feel like Funko would be weirdly willing to make a limited fundraiser Funko Pop of the taxman. The fact that we all hate Funko Pops would just make us all buy it begrudgingly instead of happily.

Screaming Idiot
Nov 26, 2007

JUST POSTING WHILE JERKIN' MY GHERKIN SITTIN' IN A PERKINS!

BEATS SELLING MERKINS.

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

Honestly I feel like Funko would be weirdly willing to make a limited fundraiser Funko Pop of the taxman. The fact that we all hate Funko Pops would just make us all buy it begrudgingly instead of happily.

He should unironically contact them. If they can make fifty variations "generic grizzled white dude" for TWD/ Breaking Bad/whatever, they can make one for the guy whose website helped to sink the world to the level of half-assed cyberpunk it is now.

The internet did make us stupid.

Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002
While we're at it, a fiestacat funko

Somfin
Oct 25, 2010

In my🦚 experience🛠️ the big things🌑 don't teach you anything🤷‍♀️.

Nap Ghost

Son of Thunderbeast posted:

While we're at it, a fiestacat funko

Rib kid funko pop with a distressingly photorealistic mouth.

Corn guy funko pop.

Slender man funko pop.

That one dude with the adventure time shirt and the fedora funko pop

Ariong
Jun 25, 2012

Get bashed, platonist!

There is absolutely no way in HELL that there is not already a Slenderman Funko Pop.

Bobby Digital
Sep 4, 2009
Put me down for one Microwave’s Mom Funko.

Mr. Bad Guy
Jun 28, 2006
The Granos funkopop is a payphone.

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

WHITE NOISE
GENERATOR

🔊😴

Somfin posted:

Rib kid funko pop with a distressingly photorealistic mouth.

Corn guy funko pop.

Slender man funko pop.

That one dude with the adventure time shirt and the fedora funko pop

By Corn Guy do you mean Cornchugger? Also what about "guy in undersized pink shirt that Lowtax is glaring at" funko pop?

venus de lmao
Apr 30, 2007

Call me "pixeltits"

gently caress it, I'd buy a Lowtax Funko Pop if he got a significant cut of the proceeds. Twelve years is most of my adult life, I was 19 when I joined and I'm loving 31 now.

I've gotten a lot out of the forums. Made friends, picked up some cool new hobbies, learned stuff, changed, grown, bought some things, discovered bands I'd never heard of, eaten foods I would never have tried. I wouldn't mind buying a ridiculous little figurine of a man I've never met. It would be impossible to explain to normal people and for some reason I like that.

1stGear
Jan 16, 2010

Here's to the new us.
Micromancer Funko Pop, with realistic pistol

Somfin
Oct 25, 2010

In my🦚 experience🛠️ the big things🌑 don't teach you anything🤷‍♀️.

Nap Ghost

Baron von Eevl posted:

By Corn Guy do you mean Cornchugger? Also what about "guy in undersized pink shirt that Lowtax is glaring at" funko pop?

Couch puke goon, too.

Actually a full TLO Roll Call set would be great

venus de lmao
Apr 30, 2007

Call me "pixeltits"

1stGear posted:

Micromancer Funko Pop, with realistic body hair

Shifty Nipples
Apr 8, 2007

I would rather set money on fire than buy one of those bread loaf looking pieces of poo poo.

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006
Grover funko is a cube of electrical sockets.

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost

Shifty Nipples posted:

I would rather set money on fire than buy one of those bread loaf looking pieces of poo poo.

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/bjy478/the-couple-who-made-a-marriage-contract-for-funko-pops

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









1stGear posted:

Funny Forum Quotes: Micromancer Funko Pop, with realistic body hair

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747
I mean, I feel like the best option here would be to do a Doom House set, with Reginald P. Linux, Officer Cop, Officer Cop (Terrorist) and the doll. Have 75% of the proceeds go to the "Richard Kyanka Spinal Injury Foundation," aka Lowtax's bank account.

e: do a figurine of 2019 Lowtax and call it Venom Reginald

WeedlordGoku69 has a new favorite as of 05:02 on Mar 19, 2019

Ariong
Jun 25, 2012

Get bashed, platonist!

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

I mean, I feel like the best option here would be to do a Doom House set, with Reginald P. Linux, Officer Cop, Officer Cop (Terrorist) and the doll. Have 75% of the proceeds go to the "Richard Kyanka Spinal Injury Foundation," aka Lowtax's bank account.

e: do a figurine of 2019 Lowtax and call it Venom Reginald

PUNISHED LOWTAX
~A Webmaster Denied His Vertebrae~

venus de lmao
Apr 30, 2007

Call me "pixeltits"

Do a younger, more innocent Lowtax and call it Dear Richard.

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

Porpoise noise continues.
I want a Jeff K Funkopop but NOT JERRY BCUZ JERRY SUX0RZ!!!!!!!!!

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

Porpoise noise continues.
There are two kinds of people in this world:

Jawdins posted:

Jim shows his butt to Dwight and a tinier butt pops out from between the cheeks (like the alien from Aliens but with a butt dripping diarrhea and all) then it farts

Jim mugs at the camera knowingly


The Lobotomy Kid posted:

Jim puts a bucket on Dwight's head so he thinks it's nighttime and misses the big meeting.

90s Cringe Rock
Nov 29, 2006
:gay:
Avs and...?

90s Cringe Rock
Nov 29, 2006
:gay:

Platystemon posted:

With bombs it’s “the miniature sun won’t get out unless we hammer the sleeping demon metal with explosives just so. :discourse:

With NSWRs, it’s “the demons want to start a riot really badly but we’ve segregated them in a maze of twisty little passages so we think they won’t be able to till the door hits them in the arse on the way out”.

Antifa Poltergeist
Jun 3, 2004

"We're not laughing with you, we're laughing at you"




This is a disturbingly accurate metaphor. Also great.

Sapozhnik
Jan 2, 2005

Nap Ghost

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

2018 has lasted longer than my entire life preceding, and also gone by in an eyeblink

somehow an ongoing national tragedy affects my personal life, who knew

jre posted:

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

an ongoing national tragedy

You could just stop posting

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



Fun Shoe

Antifa Poltergeist posted:

This is a disturbingly accurate metaphor. Also great.

Just to clarify:

NSWR stands for nuclear salt water rocket.

There is such a thing as an "ordinary" nuclear thermal rocket. It involves a nuclear reactor making a shitload of heat, and then passing a fluid like water or hydrogen through it to heat it and make it expand so it goes out a rocket nozzle at high speed, creating thrust. This is relatively sane, despite the use of a nuclear reactor. They've never flown but they have been tested on the ground.

A NSWR does not use "salt water" as the fluid above. It is a nuclear salt... water rocket. Salts of plutonium or enriched uranium (like how table salt is a salt of sodium) are dissolved in water. Subcritical amounts of the nuclear salt water are pumped into a reaction chamber, where all the radioactive bits see all their radioactive friends, and throw a fiesta. Criticality is achieved, which is the atomic industry's deadpan way of saying "there is a horrendous explosion", and all the nuclear salt water fires itself the gently caress out of the back side of the chamber, which turns out to also have been a rocket nozzle. Nuclear salt water rockets are propelled by a continuous atomic explosion.

The only atomic propulsion device I've heard of that is less sane is Project Orion, which would have involved chucking hundreds of atomic bombs underneath an enormous steel plate with a spaceship on top and riding the explosion like a Warthog in Blood Gulch.

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Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002

Phy posted:

Just to clarify:

NSWR stands for nuclear salt water rocket.

There is such a thing as an "ordinary" nuclear thermal rocket. It involves a nuclear reactor making a shitload of heat, and then passing a fluid like water or hydrogen through it to heat it and make it expand so it goes out a rocket nozzle at high speed, creating thrust. This is relatively sane, despite the use of a nuclear reactor. They've never flown but they have been tested on the ground.

A NSWR does not use "salt water" as the fluid above. It is a nuclear salt... water rocket. Salts of plutonium or enriched uranium (like how table salt is a salt of sodium) are dissolved in water. Subcritical amounts of the nuclear salt water are pumped into a reaction chamber, where all the radioactive bits see all their radioactive friends, and throw a fiesta. Criticality is achieved, which is the atomic industry's deadpan way of saying "there is a horrendous explosion", and all the nuclear salt water fires itself the gently caress out of the back side of the chamber, which turns out to also have been a rocket nozzle. Nuclear salt water rockets are propelled by a continuous atomic explosion.

The only atomic propulsion device I've heard of that is less sane is Project Orion, which would have involved chucking hundreds of atomic bombs underneath an enormous steel plate with a spaceship on top and riding the explosion like a Warthog in Blood Gulch.

Wait so it sprays nuclear salt-laden water everywhere it flies? That's some Captain Planet villain poo poo right there lmao

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