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Tighclops
Jan 23, 2008

Unable to deal with it


Grimey Drawer

Pick posted:

i love this. i love this more than i have ever loved anything.

can we get this as a gangtag can I buy that and make it a thing for everyone what is the procedure

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Sash!
Mar 16, 2001


Which is your favorite Spock Trek movie? Spock Trek II: The Wrath of Spock or Spock Trek IV: The Voyage to Spock's Home.

Mine is Spock Trek VI: The Undiscovered Spock.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


I'll just leave this here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH-dxCnNVKc&t=63s

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.

MikeJF posted:

Wait they fired Goldsman from Disco for tensions and for abusing the writers and now they have him back for the Picard show?

No, Gretchen Berg and Aaron Harberts are the two EPs who were fired for abusing the writers and causing tension.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Big Mean Jerk posted:

No, Gretchen Berg and Aaron Harberts are the two EPs who were fired for abusing the writers and causing tension.

Goldman was also fired for 'clashing with the writing staff'. Seperately.

Spacebump
Dec 24, 2003

Dallas Mavericks: Generations

Timby posted:

He's one of the writers. Others include James Duff (The Closer / Major Crimes), Kirsten Beyer (who works on Discovery) and Akiva Goldsman (of Batman Forever / Batman & Robin fame; he also worked on Discovery's first season).

How did someone write Batman Forever + Batman & Robin then continue to get work as a writer?

FuturePastNow
May 19, 2014


Son of Sam-I-Am posted:

One of my biggest gripes is that photon torpedoes mostly seem to be like your average bunker-buster today: a sizable boom, but a far, far cry from what even a small matter/antimatter reaction would yield. I did the math once and a single kilogram of antimatter should result in an explosion in the 60+ megaton range.

There's just one time I can think of when they've actually show the "real" power of Star Trek's weapons. In the 2-parter where the joint Cardassian/Romulan fleet attacks the Founder's homeworld. They expect to be able to destroy the planet's crust within one hour and the mantle in 5. When they open fire, the Romulan tactical officer reports 30% of the planet's crust destroyed by their first volley. Obviously their plan didn't work out but there's no reason their damage projections wouldn't be accurate.

Destroying the crust and mantle of a planet down to the core in 5 hours of bombardment (with 20 ships) is power.

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.

MikeJF posted:

Goldman was also fired for 'clashing with the writing staff'. Seperately.

You’re right, I completely forgot about that. :doh:

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Son of Sam-I-Am posted:

One of my biggest gripes is that photon torpedoes mostly seem to be like your average bunker-buster today: a sizable boom, but a far, far cry from what even a small matter/antimatter reaction would yield. I did the math once and a single kilogram of antimatter should result in an explosion in the 60+ megaton range.

In a new show, I'd have impacts be like a fast screen-filling flash, like Galactica's nukes but quick so it doesn't hold up action.

Galactica's nukes were awesome.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Seemlar posted:

He's not completely wrong, look at the hoops Voyager had jump through making 'replicator rations' and Holodecks incomprehensibly running off some unique standalone power source that the rest of the ship couldn't use

Geordi whined to starfleet about the holodeck being linked to ship's power, after Picard turned off his holodeck waifu for using too much energy in Booby Trap. They agreed it was a problem, and that design change was implemented when they built Voyager.

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


Sash! posted:

Which is your favorite Spock Trek movie? Spock Trek II: The Wrath of Spock or Spock Trek IV: The Voyage to Spock's Home.

Mine is Spock Trek VI: The Undiscovered Spock.

Mine is Spock Trek 3: The Spock for Spock

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

I personally dig the porno parody, This Ain't Spock Trek XXX: In-Spock's-Rectum. It's got it all, firm breasts, milfs, even a musical number!

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
I still wanna see Star Trek characters drawn as Pokemon trainers.

(the joke being that the Pokemon setting has a semi-utopian seemingly post-scarcity setting not far off Star Trek except with superpowered pets instead of spaceships)

Peacoffee
Feb 11, 2013


Blade_of_tyshalle posted:

I personally dig the porno parody, This Ain't Spock Trek XXX: In-Spock's-Rectum. It's got it all, firm breasts, milfs, even a musical number!

Is the song The Ballad of Dildo Baggins?

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:


Blade_of_tyshalle posted:

I personally dig the porno parody, This Ain't Spock Trek XXX: In-Spock's-Rectum. It's got it all, firm breasts, milfs, even a musical number!

Spocks Gone Wild: Spock Break Panama City edition

Taear
Nov 26, 2004

Ask me about the shitty opinions I have about Paradox games!

Ghost Leviathan posted:

I still wanna see Star Trek characters drawn as Pokemon trainers.

(the joke being that the Pokemon setting has a semi-utopian seemingly post-scarcity setting not far off Star Trek except with superpowered pets instead of spaceships)

You pay for stuff in Pokémon though!

Winifred Madgers
Feb 12, 2002

FuturePastNow posted:

There's just one time I can think of when they've actually show the "real" power of Star Trek's weapons. In the 2-parter where the joint Cardassian/Romulan fleet attacks the Founder's homeworld. They expect to be able to destroy the planet's crust within one hour and the mantle in 5. When they open fire, the Romulan tactical officer reports 30% of the planet's crust destroyed by their first volley. Obviously their plan didn't work out but there's no reason their damage projections wouldn't be accurate.

Destroying the crust and mantle of a planet down to the core in 5 hours of bombardment (with 20 ships) is power.

Yeah, there's one other time and it's in TOS of all things, and it's actually a little overboard. In Obsession Kirk chases a gaseous being through space, and eventually traps it with an antimatter bomb that wipes out the atmosphere on a planet. The remaster has an awesome shot of the planet as they fly away with a huge crater and most of the planet's original features erased; I saved screenshots on my main computer that are named before-kirk.jpg and after-kirk.jpg. Phoneposting now but I'll try to remember to upload them tonight.

MikeJF posted:

In a new show, I'd have impacts be like a fast screen-filling flash, like Galactica's nukes but quick so it doesn't hold up action.

Galactica's nukes were awesome.

Yeah, a lot like that, the shockwave. The Enterprise's warp core going up in Generations does something similar too. We were just talking recently in here about that, like large battles should have occasional warp core failures that change the shape of the fight.

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
This may already have been posted in the DISCO thread, I haven't caught up with it yet, but several news outlets reporting that Pike is out at the end of season 2. Unsurprising, but sad, because he is so good. I wonder who the next defense against the dark arts teacher captain of the Discovery will be.

ashpanash
Apr 9, 2008

I can see when you are lying.

Drink-Mix Man posted:

I'm a few pages late, but I made this GIF to help serve us in discussing modern Star Trek moving forward



EDIT:

I know it's an easy joke but I wish I didn't have to work today so I could photoshop this to say C O C K S

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
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The Bloop posted:

This may already have been posted in the DISCO thread, I haven't caught up with it yet, but several news outlets reporting that Pike is out at the end of season 2. Unsurprising, but sad, because he is so good. I wonder who the next defense against the dark arts teacher captain of the Discovery will be.

Let's have Commodore Robert April take the yoke for a bit why not

Bucswabe
May 2, 2009

FuturePastNow posted:

There's just one time I can think of when they've actually show the "real" power of Star Trek's weapons. In the 2-parter where the joint Cardassian/Romulan fleet attacks the Founder's homeworld. They expect to be able to destroy the planet's crust within one hour and the mantle in 5. When they open fire, the Romulan tactical officer reports 30% of the planet's crust destroyed by their first volley. Obviously their plan didn't work out but there's no reason their damage projections wouldn't be accurate.

Destroying the crust and mantle of a planet down to the core in 5 hours of bombardment (with 20 ships) is power.

I always get a kick out of the throwaway scene at the end of "Skin Of Evil" when the Enterprise shoots a photon torpedo at the planet during the captain's log. I know the intent was just to destroy the shuttle, but with that much power, I imagine the oil slick monster just kind of standing around right before a gigantic flash atomizes everything around him.

Someone on the Enterprise mutters "suck on that, motherfucker!"

Nullsmack
Dec 7, 2001
Digital apocalypse

Gorelab posted:

I feel bitching about this is like bitching that they don't just teleport the warp core out of an enemy ship the second the shields go down or hundreds of other things in every Star Trek series where they don't use the tech to the logical conclusion to keep things somewhat grounded.

I'm pretty sure they do this exact thing in an episode of Enterprise. Not the warp core, but they beam out the breakerbox or something.

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

Bucswabe posted:

I always get a kick out of the throwaway scene at the end of "Skin Of Evil" when the Enterprise shoots a photon torpedo at the planet during the captain's log. I know the intent was just to destroy the shuttle, but with that much power, I imagine the oil slick monster just kind of standing around right before a gigantic flash atomizes everything around him.

Counting the petals on a daisy

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:


So, for Reasons (tm), I'm reading a Trek novel from the mid-1970's. It goes without saying that it's awful, but there's just something about this one that's... special, and I can't quite put my finger on it :thunk:

First, we start with a dash of Mary Sue-ing about the author's favorite new Original Character Do Not Steal, right on the first couple pages:

Dr. McCoy posted:

"Good grief, Jim, that woman's the best thing to happen to biology since Charles Darwin. [...] And a chance to work with her - it's unbelievable!" The doctor's blue eyes widened with awe. "She's won every award the Federation can give in that field, and a few they invented just for her! Why, I'm going to feel like a student again with her on board."

Spock posted:

"I, too, will be very glad of her presence on board [...] there is a great deal I can learn from her; her mind more than equals my own-and, for a Terran, that's quite remarkable."

Sounds great, right? Totally not gonna be a waste of my time reading this awful, lovely book? At this point I'm just continuing because that opening scene is such a tremendous clusterfuck that I can't look away from it.

Preparations McCoy and Spock do for this Very Special OC's Arrival posted:

Spock's mental preparation for the woman's actual presence on board ship had been carried out with incredible zeal, and his activities to ensure her comfort had been equally zealous. Her quarters were as pleasant as he could arrange them; he had laid in a stock of book-tapes that he thought she might enjoy; and had even, in a burst of very un-Spockian behavior, ordered the ship's hydroponics lab to provide some suitable plant life for the doctor's cabin.
[...]
[Dr. McCoy] had made a similar request to the lab. His had been for armloads of roses [and] providing a beautiful fur bed-throw and a bottle of rare brandy. Spock had then found a rotating model of a DNA molecule. It appeared as though the two officers might have made a game of escalating the luxuries they could provide Dr. Tremain, but Kirk was forced to call a halt when Spock caught McCoy taking over the Chemistry Lab in an attempt to synthesize bubble bath.

Oh God I just can't, I don't know how someone even put this words on paper, how could I possibly continue...

Dr. Mary Sue Tremain posted:

"Captain, I request to be returned to the base at once! A rather nasty practical joke has been played on me, and I don't find it amusing. I am sure Commodore Stone would never have assigned me to this ship. He knows my feelings about Vulcans. I will not work with this... this... thing!" She glared at Spock.

[...]

"Please, Captain," she softened her tone immediately, "I beg you, let me contact Commodore Stone. There has been a mistake made." Tremain looked up at him with pleading in her eyes. Her abrupt switch in tactics had its desired effect. Kirk looked down on her, indecision taking the place of anger he had so clearly felt."

I'll spare the thread much more, but I'm halfway through this shitstorm after like 90 minutes on the couch reading it, and so far the entire book has been about this woman (an actual pyschopath btw, and someone who despite her rampant and literally fascistic views on the Vulcans as a race, seems to somehow completely catch McCoy--and even, at times, Kirk!--up in her seductive :females: wiles!) No other plot has been progressing at ALL in this story, besides "look at this woman who came on board the ship and is totally not a more racist version of the author of this novel, she's so smart and interesting and mischevious and horribly racist but she's just so charming and playfully tee-hee! about it all!" and it's driving me loving insane and I just can't stop reading, it's like trying to tear your eyes away from a bus accident. She's propositioned McCoy like five times at this point, McCoy's inner monologue shifts between "she's a racist and needs to leave the ship" and "but... but she makes my balls feel like they're on fire" and I almost can't believe that a publisher agreed to license this poo poo (then again... this was in the mid-70's).

One more choice quote though, from a scene where the ship's resident racists (a group of four Lower Decks types) decide to try to recruit her into their group in an attempt to conspire against Spock and force a court martial on him. So far the only line that's actually made me simultaneously cringe and think that the author is making a point here but doing it in just about the worst loving way possible:

Ensign Not-a-Mirror-Universe Terran, despite the terminology used posted:

"Now, Mr. Shigeda, what is your position on Vulcans?"

The young man's face hardened into cold stubbornness. "I don't like them," he said. "They look funny. They smell funny. They're aliens. They're a blot, a reminder of the unclean things in this Galaxy. This universe belongs to the Terrans. We are the strong ones. We are the deserving sons of the Universe. And humanoids blending their unclean blood with pure Terrans is something we cannot tolerate. Spock is a symbol of such mongrelization. That his not even human father dared put his hands on the pre body of a Terran-"

Drone fucked around with this message at 22:14 on Mar 19, 2019

Name Change
Oct 9, 2005


Drone posted:

So, for Reasons (tm), I'm reading a Trek novel from the mid-1970's. It goes without saying that it's awful, but there's just something about this one that's... special, and I can't quite put my finger on it :thunk:

First, we start with a dash of Mary Sue-ing about the author's favorite new Original Character Do Not Steal, right on the first couple pages:

I guess I know now why the Mary Sue concept got started in Star Trek.

quote:

Gee, golly, gosh, gloriosky," thought Mary Sue as she stepped on the bridge of the Enterprise. "Here I am, the youngest lieutenant in the fleet - only fifteen and a half years old." Captain Kirk came up to her.

"Oh, Lieutenant, I love you madly. Will you come to bed with me?" "Captain! I am not that kind of girl!" "You're right, and I respect you for it. Here, take over the ship for a minute while I go get some coffee for us." Mr. Spock came onto the bridge. "What are you doing in the command seat, Lieutenant?" "The Captain told me to." "Flawlessly logical. I admire your mind."

Captain Kirk, Mr. Spock, Dr. McCoy and Mr. Scott beamed down with Lt. Mary Sue to Rigel XXXVII. They were attacked by green androids and thrown into prison. In a moment of weakness Lt. Mary Sue revealed to Mr. Spock that she too was half Vulcan. Recovering quickly, she sprung the lock with her hairpin and they all got away back to the ship.

But back on board, Dr. McCoy and Lt. Mary Sue found out that the men who had beamed down were seriously stricken by the jumping cold robbies, Mary Sue less so. While the four officers languished in Sick Bay, Lt. Mary Sue ran the ship, and ran it so well she received the Nobel Peace Prize, the Vulcan Order of Gallantry and the Tralfamadorian Order of Good Guyhood.

However the disease finally got to her and she fell fatally ill. In the Sick Bay as she breathed her last, she was surrounded by Captain Kirk, Mr. Spock, Dr. McCoy, and Mr. Scott, all weeping unashamedly at the loss of her beautiful youth and youthful beauty, intelligence, capability and all around niceness. Even to this day her birthday is a national holiday of the Enterprise.

https://fanlore.org/wiki/A_Trekkie%27s_Tale

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:


Oh lawdy.

Captain Kirk posted:

“I do want you to come back from this expedition, Dr. Tremain. Of course, I want everyone to come back-but in your case, I think I’ve neglected my duty in not getting to know you better.” The smile deepened into seduction stage II. “In fact, I wish we had more time before you went down to Arachnae-I might get to know you very well.”

Star Trek Thread: Kirk activates Seduction Stage II

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

Kirk squats while screaming, surrounded by a glowing aura.

"This is a seduction beyond seduction," he bellows. "You can call it... Seduction Level II."

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
Kirk better come back, that's where Spock is

Epicurius
Apr 10, 2010
College Slice
Do we ever find out why she hates Vulcans so much?

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?

Epicurius posted:

Do we ever find out why she hates Vulcans so much?

I bet the logic extremists did this

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:


Well, the entire landing party to the spider planet was massacred, except for her and Spock, and they're stranded there together because Romulans in orbit are tying up the Enterprise.

So Spock will either gently caress the racism out of her (likely), or he'll kill her. Can't decide which, will keep the thread apprised of all breaking developments in this riveting saga.

Drink-Mix Man
Mar 4, 2003

You are an odd fellow, but I must say... you throw a swell shindig.

Pick posted:

Kirk better come back, that's where Spock is

I think you mean :spock:

I bought it to fund Lowtax's beeping wheelchair

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
Omg you best me to it, it's great and you're great :spock:

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:


Welp.

Spock is Fully Functional posted:

“I was not suggesting sexual activity, Dr. Tremain,” he said with an air of intense innocence. “Although I am aware of the confusion that the phrase ‘to sleep with’ can lead to. On Vulcan we have no such errors of speech. When we say something, it is precisely what we mean. However, should you wish sexual activity, I’m sure you realize I am fully capable of it at any time I feel sexual desire.”

Gettin' real cold in this cave and oops theres only one blanket!

Edit: holy poo poo they gonna bone the bigotry out of her

quote:

He lay curled up in his improvised cocoon, watching Tremain across the cave. She had put a bucket of water on to heat, and was now bathing her hands, face and the upper part of her body in hot water. She had removed her jacket, inner tunic, and bra. Her back was to him, and she was obviously sure he was still asleep. He decided not to let her know otherwise.

Her motions were efficient and yet graceful. There was something so relaxed about her that he found himself wishing she could be that unconcerned about him at all times. He took a deep breath at last, knowing the time had come for the second phase of his plan to detoxify Katalya Tremain. “Would you like some help with your back?” he inquired.

Drone fucked around with this message at 21:27 on Mar 19, 2019

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer
At least in Dreadnought! and Battlestations! there wasn't any explicit boning between Lt. Piper OC and a main crew member :stare:

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:


*Majel Barrett voice*
And now the conclusion...

They didnt gently caress. Spock mind-melded the racism out of her. Turns out she was horribly and virulently racist against Vulcans because she was in love with one who died. The end.

Hated this book lots! But had a good amount of fun live blogging it. Check it out if you're a glutton for punishment: Vulcan! by Kathleen Sky.

Also drat quick read, got through it in like 3-4 hours while also doing stuff like shitposting.

Drone fucked around with this message at 22:18 on Mar 19, 2019

Tighclops
Jan 23, 2008

Unable to deal with it


Grimey Drawer

Drink-Mix Man posted:

I think you mean :spock:

I bought it to fund Lowtax's beeping wheelchair

I love you

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

What, were all old Trek books a noun with an exclamation point?

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
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Drone posted:

*Majel Barrett voice*
And now the conclusion...

They didnt gently caress. Spock mind-melded the racism out of her. Turns out she was horribly and virulently racist against Vulcans because she was in love with one who died. The end.

Hated this book lots! But had a good amount of fun live blogging it. Check it out if you're a glutton for punishment: Vulcan! by Kathleen Sky.

Also drat quick read, got through it in like 3-4 hours while also doing stuff like shitposting.

Yeah, I know every widow/er I've known violently hates the ethnicity of their former partners.

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Nullsmack
Dec 7, 2001
Digital apocalypse
Did you guys see this?
https://www.engadget.com/2019/03/15/star-trek-deep-space-nine-ai-remaster/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hInQkqmjn48

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