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craig588
Nov 19, 2005

by Nyc_Tattoo
Only up to 1920x1200, you need a ~100 dollar active adapter for 2560x1440. There are cheaper ones that lag and are useless for games.

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Stickman
Feb 1, 2004

orcane posted:

That's not actually true anymore, though? They're not making Armor versions of the RTX 2080/Ti (I'm guessing the Duke is covering the mid-tier niche between the high-end Gaming Trio and poo poo tier Ventus cards) and the RTX 2060 and 2070 Armor reviews I saw said the cooler was great (very silent under load and keeps the card cool for decent OC).

You're right! I could have sworn I read an Armor 2070 review that had similar performance to the old models, but it maybe it was a 580 review or something...

orcane
Jun 13, 2012

Fun Shoe

Stickman posted:

You're right! I could have sworn I read an Armor 2070 review that had similar performance to the old models, but it maybe it was a 580 review or something...

They seem to have used the old Pascal/Polaris Armor cooler on the RX 590 so maybe it was that one :v:

Considering the RX 590 has about the TDP of a GTX 1080 and with some OC almost reaches that of the GTX 1080 Ti, that would do it.

Comfy Fleece Sweater
Apr 2, 2013

You see, but you do not observe.

Riflen posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJMim4piOVk

Lordy. Hopefully released to the public next month.

This is just frickin' beautiful. I'm now more convinced we're living in a simulation already

Riflen
Mar 13, 2009

"Cheating bitch"
Bleak Gremlin
Nvidia uploaded a nicer copy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY0W3MkZFs4

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


Really want to see unreal rtx.

BurritoJustice
Oct 9, 2012

The new DX12AFR SLI implementation in Shadow of the Tomb Raider makes me a little sad for what multi-GPU could've been. Smooth as gently caress with excellent scaling. Lets me play at maxed out settings (even the nvidia bullshit, sans RTX) >60 at 1440p. Geforce experience recommends literally min-spec, which is amusing.

(2x GTX980 at 1520MHz, 5.1 9900k, 4133c17)

The implementation that the game shipped with was an example of why SLI is dead, it was an unusable mess and worse than single GPU.

BOOTY-ADE
Aug 30, 2006

BIG KOOL TELLIN' Y'ALL TO KEEP IT TIGHT

Goddrat that looks beautiful, reminds me of going from Q2 software mode to Open GL rendering back in the day & how much better it looked/ran

Red_Fred
Oct 21, 2010


Fallen Rib

Indiana_Krom posted:

The U2412M has DisplayPort, or at least mine does...

Oh yes you’re right, I’m dumb.

Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010




What are the top options for 1660 Ti, preferably keeping to $300 or less? Running at 1080p/144hz.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

Fuck the DH
While the Quake II thing is nice, it seems more about developer labor hours saved than anything. People have seen atmospheric lighting like that already in games by Rockstar and Square-Enix in recent years, but it cost an ungodly amount of money asking an incredible number of people to work dangerous hours to happen.

lllllllllllllllllll
Feb 28, 2010

Now the scene's lighting is perfect!
Taking a closer look at SotTR, RT means a huge hit to FPS, unsurprisingly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=ywDdjKIEzfQ

Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.
I hope we get ROTT with RTX

lDDQD
Apr 16, 2006

Craptacular! posted:

While the Quake II thing is nice, it seems more about developer labor hours saved than anything. People have seen atmospheric lighting like that already in games by Rockstar and Square-Enix in recent years, but it cost an ungodly amount of money asking an incredible number of people to work dangerous hours to happen.

You've got it. The target audience for real-time raytracing isn't gamers; it's developers. We've been able to fake our way to lighting that looks 95% as good, but at what cost? Raytracing gives you everything for free; a state-of-the-art graphics engine could be developed by a couple dudes working in their spare time, instead of a mega-corporation with a budget that dwarfs the GDP of some poorer countries.

repiv
Aug 13, 2009

lllllllllllllllllll posted:

Taking a closer look at SotTR, RT means a huge hit to FPS, unsurprisingly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=ywDdjKIEzfQ

Pretty underwhelming, can't say I'm sold on using RT shadows everywhere right now. They make sense for huge area lights but PCSS/CHS shadow maps get reasonably close for small lights and are a lot faster. Unfortunately SotTR only has normal shadow maps and raytracing without anything like PCSS inbetween.

Reflections are still the most obvious win for RTX IMO, nearly every game uses SSR these days and it always looks like poo poo if you're even vaguely paying attention to it. PCSS is a hack but the flaws are easy to ignore.

lDDQD posted:

You've got it. The target audience for real-time raytracing isn't gamers; it's developers. We've been able to fake our way to lighting that looks 95% as good, but at what cost? Raytracing gives you everything for free; a state-of-the-art graphics engine could be developed by a couple dudes working in their spare time, instead of a mega-corporation with a budget that dwarfs the GDP of some poorer countries.

Caveat: faking lighting that looks 95% as good means pre-computing nearly everything, which puts the quality on a sliding scale where the more dynamic the world is the less you can pre-compute and the worse the quality gets.

Raytracing opens up the possibility of matching pre-computed lighting quality in scenarios where pre-computation is limited or simply doesn't work (dynamic time of day, heavily destructible maps, procedural worlds, user generated content, etc).

repiv fucked around with this message at 16:08 on Mar 21, 2019

Worf
Sep 12, 2017

If only Seth would love me like I love him!

I for one, think this brand new first gen technology will improve

isndl
May 2, 2012
I WON A CONTEST IN TG AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS CUSTOM TITLE

Statutory Ape posted:

I for one, think this brand new first gen technology will improve

Preposterous, everyone knows new tech won't get any traction until the porn industry puts it to use.

Worf
Sep 12, 2017

If only Seth would love me like I love him!

isndl posted:

Preposterous, everyone knows new tech won't get any traction until the porn industry puts it to use.

My motto is if you can even conceive of somebody using something on their penis, they already are

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

Fuck the DH
My main problem, and this is what scares me, is I worry this will really move DX12.

We’re getting so close to really great “run DX games in Linux and quit dual booting every day” capability; I think most people will stick with Windows full time our of familiarity but weirdos like me who want to use Windows less are probably about to see DXVK development thrown back a generation again.

At least it’ll be a while before it’s ever mandatory.

repiv
Aug 13, 2009

Craptacular! posted:

My main problem, and this is what scares me, is I worry this will really move DX12.

We’re getting so close to really great “run DX games in Linux and quit dual booting every day” capability; I think most people will stick with Windows full time our of familiarity but weirdos like me who want to use Windows less are probably about to see DXVK development thrown back a generation again.

At least it’ll be a while before it’s ever mandatory.

I wouldn't worry too much about that, the Vulkan raytracing extension that Nvidia is pushing for standardization is pretty much a straight port of DXR over to Vulkan.

They're similar enough that DXVK should be able to map DXR calls over to Vulkan RT without too much trouble.

edit: Oh DXVK is only for DX10/DX11, I thought they had DX12 already. In that case yeah they'll have to catch up to DX12 first.

repiv fucked around with this message at 18:06 on Mar 21, 2019

HalloKitty
Sep 30, 2005

Adjust the bass and let the Alpine blast

Craptacular! posted:

My main problem, and this is what scares me, is I worry this will really move DX12.

We’re getting so close to really great “run DX games in Linux and quit dual booting every day” capability; I think most people will stick with Windows full time our of familiarity but weirdos like me who want to use Windows less are probably about to see DXVK development thrown back a generation again.

At least it’ll be a while before it’s ever mandatory.

That's why Google Stadia is interesting: being a Linux/Vulkan platform, with Google behind it.. I'm kind of hoping it'll push Linux/Vulkan adoption elsewhere. I don't actually care about Stadia itself, just the implications it might have.

Red_Fred
Oct 21, 2010


Fallen Rib
I’ve got my EVGA 2070 XC Ultra installed however it doesn’t seem to like the HDMI to DP cable I borrowed from work or my Dell U2412M. The cable is not active but I thought that shouldn’t matter for 1080p?

Card works for sure as I can connect my old monitor via HDMI without a problem it’s just that’s in vertical which is not ideal.

Arzachel
May 12, 2012
Just so I'm not missing anything, the monitor (U2412M) has a DP output and the GPU has a DP input but instead of using regular ol' DP cable you're trying a HDMI to DP cable?

Red_Fred
Oct 21, 2010


Fallen Rib

Arzachel posted:

Just so I'm not missing anything, the monitor (U2412M) has a DP output and the GPU has a DP input but instead of using regular ol' DP cable you're trying a HDMI to DP cable?

Yes as I don’t have a proper DP cable on me right now, this Dell never came with one and the vidiya didn’t either. I’ll get one tomorrow, anything I need to look out for?

HalloKitty
Sep 30, 2005

Adjust the bass and let the Alpine blast

Red_Fred posted:

Yes as I don’t have a proper DP cable on me right now, this Dell never came with one and the vidiya didn’t either. I’ll get one tomorrow, anything I need to look out for?

I would be very surprised if it didn't come with one, the u2410 did

Worf
Sep 12, 2017

If only Seth would love me like I love him!

my Dell monitor(s) came with a lot of (seemingly) nice cables

Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.
Check the box cause dell monitors usually come with every cable known to man.

craig588
Nov 19, 2005

by Nyc_Tattoo
Not if you get them used. Dell Ultrasharps are the king of the year old used 50 dollar monitor segment, I have...5 of them and for whatever reason people never ship them with cables. Anytime anyone asks for a monitor recommendation and doesn't really have a use in mind I always go to used Ultrasharp, cheap, looks great, not really missing anything if you're not trying to get a 120+ Hz monitor, and the size is perfect. I have them from everywhere from 2010 to 2015 and in terms of the screen they all look great.

EdEddnEddy
Apr 5, 2012



On the monitor front I have to throw in that the Acer 27" IPS 1440P screens may not be major gamer level panels, but the drat things have some extremely impressive color on par with my EVGA SC17's 4K panel. Guy in our office just got two of them and man I am jealous as the things look fantastic. I have some Acer TN 27" 1080P panels because they were dirt cheep back when I got them, and they look like complete garbage in comparison.

Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.



Buglord
:canada: Sale RX570 4GBs for $140 ($105 USD) w/ 2 games. Incredible value

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!
Apparently it's possible to update the DisplayPort firmware on my GTX 1070 from whatever it was to DP1.4. Well this is going to be interesting...

bigmandan
Sep 11, 2001

lol internet
College Slice

Combat Pretzel posted:

Apparently it's possible to update the DisplayPort firmware on my GTX 1070 from whatever it was to DP1.4. Well this is going to be interesting...

Oh neat. Will this work on any GTX 1070 or just certain cards?

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!
Seems like any NVidia card. It worked, but of course, I have no idea what it did. I only came across this tool when investigating whether my card actually did DP1.4 (for the HP Reverb headset).

https://www.nvidia.com/object/nv-uefi-update-x64.html

repiv
Aug 13, 2009

Pascal always ostensibly supported DP1.4 but they released so close to each other that Nvidia probably implemented it from draft specs, so the firmware update was to fix some bugs that came to light when DP1.4 monitors actually started existing.

Red_Fred
Oct 21, 2010


Fallen Rib
My monitor did not come with a DP cable, I even checked the website to confirm what’s in the box and it’s just a vga (which I threw out in 2016 when I got it) and dvi.

Anyway for the 2070 power connections is it fine to use the same cable for both 8 and 6 pin plug? Or should I run a new cable for one of them from my psi?

EdEddnEddy
Apr 5, 2012



My work is getting flooded with Dell standard DP to DP cables. If anyone would be interested I guess, for the Cost of Shipping I could throw one or more your way, if you are in Sacramento or near enough to it, we could meet up and I could give you a few lol.

craig588
Nov 19, 2005

by Nyc_Tattoo
As long as it's relatively recent (Maybe the past 5 years?) it's fine. There was a change in sometime like 2011 to not split the rails anymore, before then PSU manufacturers were required to split the rails after 180 watts, I think, which lead to crazy designs with like 5 12V rails. Eventually they realized those requirements made no sense with how computers are designed now and changed the requirements to be one single rail.

HalloKitty
Sep 30, 2005

Adjust the bass and let the Alpine blast

EdEddnEddy posted:

My work is getting flooded with Dell standard DP to DP cables. If anyone would be interested I guess, for the Cost of Shipping I could throw one or more your way, if you are in Sacramento or near enough to it, we could meet up and I could give you a few lol.

Well, they're not Dell (but HP), but I feel kind of bad too, I saw a bunch of various cables (including new DisplayPort ones) outside in a bin getting rusted connectors from the rain where I work. Just too many. It's wasteful, but it's hard to hook up the right people with the cables in an easy and timely manner, I guess.

FuzzySlippers
Feb 6, 2009

Combat Pretzel posted:

Seems like any NVidia card. It worked, but of course, I have no idea what it did. I only came across this tool when investigating whether my card actually did DP1.4 (for the HP Reverb headset).

https://www.nvidia.com/object/nv-uefi-update-x64.html

I did this to my old 1070 in the hope it might stop Windows from freaking out (and losing my window positions) every time my computer went to sleep with a monitor connected via DP. Unfortunately it didn't do anything.

(I eventually edited a bunch of reg poo poo and something fixed it)

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LRADIKAL
Jun 10, 2001

Fun Shoe
Please share window location fixes... Dual monitor?

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