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Elias_Maluco
Aug 23, 2007
I need to sleep
Looks like the military is starting to get worried over Bolsonaro increasingly bellicist tone towards Venezuela

https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/mundo...mpaign=noticias

edit: vvvvv you can always use outline https://outline.com/yLgNFf

Elias_Maluco has issued a correction as of 17:03 on Mar 20, 2019

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Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Link to a medium or something, that article is for subscribers only

e: Thanks. Also lol that Bolsonaro said the quiet thing loud with his "Democracy only exists because the military lets it." We should have loving abolished it after 1989 like Costa Rica or make it a self-defense force or something

Plutonis has issued a correction as of 18:50 on Mar 20, 2019

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Also speaking of the PT loving up

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo
Hey, guess who had a school shooting threat directed at them today?

My college is the answer.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
Are those a brand new thing since bolsonaro took over?

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo

Jose posted:

Are those a brand new thing since bolsonaro took over?

Pretty much, yeah.

Halser
Aug 24, 2016

Jose posted:

Are those a brand new thing since bolsonaro took over?

I remember a pretty bad school shooting a couple years ago, but I don't really know how frequent threats are.

bagual
Oct 29, 2010

inconspicuous

Dias posted:

Hey, guess who had a school shooting threat directed at them today?

My college is the answer.

was just talking with a friend who's a masters student at UFRGS, poo poo's hosed up

we should seriously consider doxxing chan edgelords and handing them over to the police imo

Psytoré got his 40 year sentence recently, if we can nail them down they're hosed

bagual
Oct 29, 2010

inconspicuous

Dias posted:

Hey, guess who had a school shooting threat directed at them today?

My college is the answer.

was just talking with a friend who's a masters student at UFRGS, poo poo's hosed up

we should seriously consider doxxing chan edgelords and handing them over to the police imo

Psytoré got his 40 year sentence recently, if we can nail them down they're hosed

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Lmao holy poo poo that's a loving name I haven't heard in a decade.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

I remember Psycl0n's retard poo poo back on my shameful trolling days on 55/BRchan and I hated his guts. Holy hell catching up on what he's been up to and 41 years in pound me in the rear end sardine can jail for CP/Death Threats is really something that makes me chuckle.

E: And that Incel dude who shot a girl and killed himself last year was a mod on his lovely spinoff chan that's now a deep web site for some reason (the reason is CP/extreme racism)

Plutonis has issued a correction as of 04:21 on Mar 21, 2019

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

ex-president Michel Temer just got arrested by the feds

Halser
Aug 24, 2016
I was never a big 55/brchan browser so I actually never heard of this guy. Found a video on youtube about his arrest and the fact he said he knew he wouldn't get caught because of how inefficient the criminal/justice system in Brazil is made me laugh quite heartily.

Also, is it just me or is this extremely online poo poo mostly confined to the south of the country?

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010

Plutonis posted:

ex-president Michel Temer just got arrested by the feds

Lmao

Halser
Aug 24, 2016


holy gently caress it's happening again

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021


Due to his advanced age and status as ex-president he'll be condemned to 30 years of home arrest in his mansion.

Halser
Aug 24, 2016

ZearothK posted:

Due to his advanced age and status as ex-president he'll be condemned to 30 years of home arrest in his mansion.

not what happened to Lula, so he may actually end up arrested.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

ZearothK posted:

Due to his advanced age and status as ex-president he'll be condemned to 30 years of home arrest in his mansion.

No chance. There's not even a verdict against him.

This is purely pyrotecnics to try and shore support for Lava Jato and distract from the poor government polling this week.

And to bait the Supreme Court, which has been finding some courage against the crazy hijinks of the last years, if only out of self preservation. If they free him (which they should, as it's motivated by nothing in the legal sphere), they come off as corrupt viziers defending thieves, and not as watchers making sure the constitution is followed.

Also, it seems that the plea-bargain quote they used to get him was about buying votes for the impeachment in 2016, which is kinda admirable in its brazenness.

Elias_Maluco
Aug 23, 2007
I need to sleep
The main focus now seems to be getting the STF out of the way somehow.

Their approval is already on a pretty low point, releasing Temer at the minimum will help getting more people on the streets chanting "close the STF", like we already had last sunday

And the STF cannot avoid this trap, the arrest is absolutely unjustifiable by the law

Elias_Maluco has issued a correction as of 19:00 on Mar 21, 2019

Halser
Aug 24, 2016
Can someone explain to a smoothbrained moron like me what's the endgame with this poo poo?

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

someone introduce jojo to lazyb


Halser posted:

Can someone explain to a smoothbrained moron like me what's the endgame with this poo poo?

Building international support for the third temple to be built and rapture all us good people :tm: away from all these poors and leftists

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

Halser posted:

Can someone explain to a smoothbrained moron like me what's the endgame with this poo poo?

Crediting the current crop of howling swine with an endgame is pushing it.

But basically, it's brazilian institutions, who have never been that strong or independent to begin with, having a prison shank-fight with each other as the status quo that started in 1988 and buried in poo poo in 2016, finally expires.

- Government knows it needs to kill social security and privatize everything if it is to last, but between being a crop of loons and relying on fickle political mercenaries, they are not as steady as their vote count indicated (and many of their voters, who were formerly center-right PSDB types who considered themselves cosmopolitan moderates, are having doubts). So they are doing what they know, which is punching anyone who gets in the way and calling them communists and thieves. There's also the fact that they are stained not with just run-of-the-mill capaign violations and such but blatant involvement with violent militias, financial shitfuckery in stealing the wages of staff, and so on, making many of the key figures dead men walking.

-The courts are corporativist to an insane degree and mindful of their privileges, but also turned ideological in the last 10-15 years as their lower officers filled up with neoliberal types once public service got better pay and became a viable career choice. They have rubber-stamped every power of the day since birth, but also have a bit of caution not to shake the building down, since that would mean the end of their gravy train. Now their runaway shitshow, Lava Jato, is basically trying to call the shots and top from the bottom. They literally tried to have a fund of $2 billion given to them instead of returned to its owners, so they could "use it against corruption", meaning funding friendly pols and paying themselves for classes and speeches and poo poo. It went over horribly, fell through, and they are salty as gently caress over it and sending barbs at the supreme court for not backing them.

- The Legislative is a joke, by design. Say what you will, the PT is the only real party of size in the country, in the sense that it's an organization with a set following and agenda from north to south. All others are gatherings of convenience that will turn on a dime, shrink or swell as pols flip parties, and basically fall in wholesale to vote for projects if their prices are met. The present bondoggle happens because they are wily enough cowards to know when the ground is shaky, and when times are risky, prices go up. Having to pay them off goes against the New Era discourse of the government, but they'll still do it, if they can keep themselves from imploding (see the Dead Men Walking point above), and no one is sure they will, so things are stalling.

-The media is torn. They want the reforms and PT to be erased so bad they could poo poo, since it means a windfall for their allies in the financial sector and the vindication of their 1990s neoliberal mindset. On the other hand, they wanted it to happen at the hands of their chosen enlightened elite scions of the PSDB, not the hooting trolls of the new right, but they know thay can't be picky. They can't -not- report on the gorss malpratcie and crime ties of the new government, as that brings in views, but can't let it get out of control either because it might endanger the Holy Reforms or worse, bring progressives back to power. So they play a weird two-step dance that still gets them called Fake News by our chuds but is unfocused enough that they are not overt enemies of the government. There are some, like the Record Network, owned by a huge evangelical church, that have fully allied with the government and receive exclusive releases and interviews as a result, while Bolso actively denies other vehicles access, leveraging his celebrity.

Where it will all lead? gently caress, it's Brazil. No one has a clue.

Halser
Aug 24, 2016

Sephyr posted:

Where it will all lead? gently caress, it's Brazil. No one has a clue.

I love having even more abstract anxiety in my life.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

Halser posted:

I love having even more abstract anxiety in my life.

Don't remind me.

It's a bit like the attitude US people are adopting toward school shootings.

"Should we try, you know, drawing down social violence and getting rid of guns? Nah? Let's be zen about it. Teach kids that their lives are mere candles in the breeze and we can all be snuffed out in an eyeblink"

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Getting rid of all guns AND violence by "democratic means" is an incredibly naive pipe dream so yes.

Elias_Maluco
Aug 23, 2007
I need to sleep
A PM officer was filmed yesterday dragging a woman by the hair and beating her up while holding a gun and threatening to blow up the restaurant with grenades

https://twitter.com/kauafaria90/status/1108891065791193090

Because a sandwich he ordered was wrong (he wanted it without sauce)

Now imagine this country if the number of armed people raises significantly

Elias_Maluco has issued a correction as of 15:04 on Mar 22, 2019

Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

I’m assuming the officer has been appropriately dealt with and will receive his promotion soon?

bagual
Oct 29, 2010

inconspicuous
ok does my paranoid Mourão takeover delusion seem less paranoid every day or is it just me?

https://twitter.com/DCM_online/status/1109161976217956353

he's positioning himself closer to centrão and earlier this week he also trolled Olavo calling him "the astrologer from Virginia", clearly the loonies don't please him at all

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo
Mourão is definitely setting himself up for the good ol Temer. He's been doing that for a while too.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021


On the one hand we lose the 13th on the other we lose Bostonaro legitimizing the most hateful loonies in the southern hemisphere.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Honestly there have been precedent of military dictatorships sidelining the far right elements that previously supported their ascent.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

Plutonis posted:

Honestly there have been precedent of military dictatorships sidelining the far right elements that previously supported their ascent.

Brazil itself did that. After Carlos Lacerda spent 10+ years frothing for the military to come in and clean out the commies in 1964, then give him the presidency because he was a nice christian boy, they snorted and told him to go get hosed, civvie.

Then he had his NeverTrump moment and formed an alliance with two former adversaries (Goulart and Juscelino) to try and get a movement gpoing for a return to normalcy, and within a year all three were dead in accident or weird, sudden illnesses. :pseudo:

Knitting Beetles
Feb 4, 2006

Fallen Rib
Does anyone have book recommendations about Brazil's military dictatorship period? (I speak Portuguese)

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Knitting Beetles posted:

Does anyone have book recommendations about Brazil's military dictatorship period? (I speak Portuguese)

Elio Gaspari's series is a real good place to start

bagual
Oct 29, 2010

inconspicuous

Knitting Beetles posted:

Does anyone have book recommendations about Brazil's military dictatorship period? (I speak Portuguese)

I seriously recommend watching the doc O Dia que Durou 21 Anos as a primer


Os Anos de Chumbo is a good book.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

Knitting Beetles posted:

Does anyone have book recommendations about Brazil's military dictatorship period? (I speak Portuguese)

For a bit of a snapshot of Brazil in general, before and during the dictatorship(s), Ruy Castro's 'O Anjo Pornográfico' (bio of Brazil's biggest modern playwright whose family was involved in a RIDICULOUS amount of history) is a master-class. If you like soccer, his book A Estrela Solitária is also great.

Knitting Beetles
Feb 4, 2006

Fallen Rib
Thanks for that, the local library has all of those so I'll get to reading.

Smirking_Serpent
Aug 27, 2009

Sephyr posted:

Brazil itself did that. After Carlos Lacerda spent 10+ years frothing for the military to come in and clean out the commies in 1964, then give him the presidency because he was a nice christian boy, they snorted and told him to go get hosed, civvie.

same thing happened in Romania with Iron Guard being destroyed after the fascists took power.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

Smirking_Serpent posted:

same thing happened in Romania with Iron Guard being destroyed after the fascists took power.

There is a pundit in Brazil called Reinaldo Azevedo who was one of the earliest New Right, Glenn-Beck-clone figures that popped up here, and of course instantly got space in several major publications. His stuff was just insufferable, with plenty of racist and mysoginistic fare to go with the classic "the commies are coming, run!". Easily one of the pioneers that bred the fever swamps that gave us Bolsonaro.

Except last year, after he saw the classic neoliberal party flounder and die unmourned by anyone except other media dopes, he realized the fanatics would have no use for him, as they had their own cult of personality and hated print and radio media (since they toelrated the decades of 'socialist' past regimes). So suddenly he became a newly-minted paladin of due process , ranting against the uncouth bungling of the government, and even bemoaning the partial rulings and actions of the Judiciary.

Earned him the hate of half of his followers, and the grudging respect of the desperate left. War makes strange bedfellows and all that. The moment some even vaguely viable neoliberal figure dawns, though, we can expect him to return to praising local crazy judges arresting lefties based on crooked plea deals.

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Magrov
Mar 27, 2010

I'm completely lost and have no idea what's going on. I'll be at my bunker.

If you need any diplomatic or mineral stuff just call me. If you plan to nuke India please give me a 5 minute warning to close the windows!


Also Iapetus sucks!

Plutonis posted:

Elio Gaspari's series is a real good place to start

this, but with a grain of salt. read the basic facts first, else you'll come out the other side thinking geisel was jesus+roosevelt reincarnated.


Sephyr posted:

Reinaldo Azevedo

gently caress this hack and anyone who takes him seriously.

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