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UK: Brexit is the most important decision in world politics in a generation World: no1 curr
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Mar 23, 2019 02:31
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Mar 23, 2019 02:31
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https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1109267443472629761
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Mar 23, 2019 02:37
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V. Illych L. posted:i'm not saying it's worse, i'm saying it's institutional in a way it isn't/hasn't been in on the european continent. by all means, we've had obvious and hideous bouts of racism (such as, you know, WW2 and the loving holocaust), but the nuremberg laws had to be invented by a bunch of evil lawyers precisely because concepts of miscegenation and hangups re: racial integration in that way were, for all our callousness, just not that fundamental to us while the idea of cultural/linguistic/religious aassimilation is a valid lens thru which to examine the interaction and evolution of societies esp in retrospect, the modern usage of "assimilation" in europe (and elsewhere but europe folks do this a lot) is in large part a big gently caress of bullshit used to shift blame from the hegemonic peoples and their phobias, to frame it as the fault of the subaltern that the empowered classes/groups have excluded them or various aspects/customs from being part of the accepted diversity of the larger culture you can be atheist or any of the countless subtypes of christian or new agey or old timey pagan or buddhist and most of europe will be aok w yr religion as part of the fabric of the diversity of the culture—but you wanna buy a halal steak and whoooaa holy gently caress everyone goes apeshit no group chooses to be treated like poo poo and shoved to the periphery of society for tens of generations. you cannot fuckin blame the Romani or the Jews for "not assimilating"
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Mar 23, 2019 02:40
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cast them into the sea, jupiter
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Mar 23, 2019 02:42
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The least racist place, as I have said before, is the Antarctic. Mostly on account of having far fewer humans than the other continents. Though it's true that penguins do get up to all sorts, but they're probably still not as racist as the humans. Edit: and I'm British and cannot possibly deny my country's very long history of utter shittiness to pretty much everywhere else. Brexit will probably ruin us, and we very definitely deserve it. Though I would be happier about it if I didn't have to live here. Jollity Farm has issued a correction as of 04:37 on Mar 23, 2019 |
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Mar 23, 2019 04:33
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lol stop hitting yourself
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Mar 23, 2019 05:37
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oh god i skipped 4 pages and the racism derail still going on
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Mar 23, 2019 08:17
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Squalid posted:One thing I noticed that was really remarkably disturbing when Roma came up in the Europol thread was how many posters took it as a given that states needed to destroy their identity and annihilate them as a discrete, unique and separate nation. Like people were just outright saying their Romani cannot be allowed to exist, but it is good and correct for the state today to try and destroy them. It was insanely creepy and disturbing but I guess in much of Europe that's just accepted as a normal and rational thing to say and think.
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Mar 23, 2019 08:38
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Europol is full of Nazis is why
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Mar 23, 2019 08:41
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Nationalism, socialism, democracy, the workers... what's not to like? 
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Mar 23, 2019 09:16
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Weird how Romani people easily assimilated in America, where people are too ignorant of their existence to persecute them.
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Mar 23, 2019 09:30
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https://twitter.com/0Calamity/status/1109085498033745925?s=19
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Mar 23, 2019 09:36
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ah, preferred by europe's elites
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Mar 23, 2019 09:52
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i say swears online posted:ah, preferred by europe's elites you're an idiot
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Mar 23, 2019 09:56
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That's pretty cool. 
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Mar 23, 2019 11:02
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https://twitter.com/EL4JC/status/1109398584598892544
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Mar 23, 2019 11:27
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https://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/1109401389711720448
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Mar 23, 2019 11:28
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mod edit: nope (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) Somebody has issued a correction as of 06:59 on Mar 24, 2019 |
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Mar 23, 2019 11:29
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The most racist country is probably whichever one Racismo The Magician is passing through.
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Mar 23, 2019 11:30
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prefect posted:You know what would probably accomplish more? Killing pro-leave politicians. The leave people killed a pro-remain politician, and now everybody is terrified of making them mad. wait what?
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Mar 23, 2019 11:37
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Squizzle posted:while the idea of cultural/linguistic/religious aassimilation is a valid lens thru which to examine the interaction and evolution of societies esp in retrospect, the modern usage of "assimilation" in europe (and elsewhere but europe folks do this a lot) is in large part a big gently caress of bullshit used to shift blame from the hegemonic peoples and their phobias, to frame it as the fault of the subaltern that the empowered classes/groups have excluded them or various aspects/customs from being part of the accepted diversity of the larger culture i'm not blaming them for anything, that's a rather uncharitable reading; insularity makes perfect sense when you're being persecuted for your culture. the reasonable way to integrate people is to pretty much let them participate in society and wait a couple of generations. it's common in antisemitic works, however, to see conversion to christianity as a legitimate option for the jew - look at shylock in the merchant of venice for an obvious example. of course, contemporary racists will find reasons to distrust such conversions (see the preoccupation of many european racists with taqqiya) because they're loving racists and adapt their ideology on the fly the core point i'm trying to make is that policies which in america are seen as necessary anti-racist endeavours and impulses which are healthy in a society overly concerned with the contamination of precious bodily fluids may not be healthy in a society where racist ideology is based more on cultural chauvinism than biological supremacy. the unreasonable demands placed on minorities are that they cut themselves away from where they came entirely and swear fealty to Our Way which must be recognises explicitly as in all ways surperior. the self-justification of the racist is different, and so the policy response must be different basically we think that people who use different support networks than us are inherently suspicious, which leads to cracking down on those support networks, which reasonably leads to a doubling down in defence of said networks, which is used to justify the hatred retroactively: thus, our racist parties conctantly whine about 'integration' while making it harder for these people to actually function in society and thus integrate in a meaningful way. so the onus is upon 'them' to just make a huge leap of faith, overcome all the barriers we put in their way and become perfect norwegians/frenchmen/czhechs/whatever and preferably disown everything they grew up with as worthless
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Mar 23, 2019 11:39
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probably the top choice ministers to fire if you were a competent PM too
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Mar 23, 2019 11:42
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oh no whatever will become of the kingdom withour spider boy, fertile woman, the artful dodger, dr robotnik and liz truss
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Mar 23, 2019 11:47
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CODChimera posted:wait what? please edit the quote out that dudes gonna get orbital bombarded jesus christ
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Mar 23, 2019 11:53
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love to reign in hell
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Mar 23, 2019 11:54
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Jo Cox got murdered by the far right
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Mar 23, 2019 11:55
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CODChimera posted:wait what? It's frustrating that the violent people seem to get their way. It's a problem in the US, too. (Another cop just got off after shooting a black kid in the back.) prefect has issued a correction as of 12:05 on Mar 23, 2019 |
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Mar 23, 2019 11:58
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Jose posted:Jo Cox got murdered by the far right imagine having overcome a name like j/o cocks to become a member of parliament only for some incel to murder you
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Mar 23, 2019 12:05
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If you want to talk racism and the US go right ahead and do that in another thread, please, for the love of God So anyway, if those ministers walk out on May (maybe with some others on their coattails) then the government won't have the votes to survive a vote of no confidence, DUP or no. Since that probably means a GE, who in that case negotiates an Art 50 extension with the EU? At this point it's hard to see how this gets resolved without either a GE or disorderly Brexit, nobody is in charge.
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Mar 23, 2019 12:23
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I think the old government remains in place until a new one is sworn in, so that would still be May doing the negotiating.
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Mar 23, 2019 12:34
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shirts and skins posted:If you want to talk racism and the US go right ahead and do that in another thread, please, for the love of God ministers resigning just means they stop doing their job, resigning the whip means they leave the party, vacating their seat means they aren't an mp May's already dealt with a load of resignations and even mps resigning the whip. It does nothing to force a GE and she's never going to care - even if ministers resign the whip they have to them vote themselves out of a job twice. It's just posturing.
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Mar 23, 2019 12:43
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Jose posted:Jo Cox got murdered by the far right "Death to traitors, freedom for Britain" was his name, I seem to remember. It had no relation with Brexit of course 
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Mar 23, 2019 12:49
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prefect posted:You know what would probably accomplish more? Killing pro-leave politicians. The leave people killed a pro-remain politician, and now everybody is terrified of making them mad. agreed lol But nah I'm sure the petition and march will overcome a self interested mps fear of being actually killed by the far right
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Mar 23, 2019 12:50
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Squizzle posted:imagine having overcome a name like j/o cocks to become a member of parliament only for some incel to murder you i was at a concert at cecil sharp house on the same day with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slxwVkBhfS4 and they dedicated a song to Jo Cox gonna go and hang about charing cross today tho
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Mar 23, 2019 12:52
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Mackers posted:The "modern concept of europe" was to stop us warring with each other and it worked. A fine European tradition of murdering one another for no reason momentarily halted.
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Mar 23, 2019 13:28
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https://twitter.com/KingLionheart/status/1109427004905082880
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Mar 23, 2019 13:48
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Jollity Farm posted:The least racist place, as I have said before, is the Antarctic. Mostly on account of having far fewer humans than the other continents. Though it's true that penguins do get up to all sorts, but they're probably still not as racist as the humans. Those penguins will kill you for not being black/white enough, they will.
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Mar 23, 2019 13:54
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there’s a ‘slow protest’ in my town today they’re having a convoy up and down the M18 and M1. Not sure what it will achieve other than meaning it will take me a bit longer to get to Lidl like but whatevs.
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Mar 23, 2019 14:08
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monkeytennis posted:there’s a ‘slow protest’ in my town today they’re having a convoy up and down the M18 and M1. Not sure what it will achieve other than meaning it will take me a bit longer to get to Lidl like but whatevs. There was one on the M6 yesterday evening. It will very clearly maybe send a strong message about something to someone.
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