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LiquidFriend posted:Ed Oliver is going in the top 5. Blitz7x posted:Yeah, mocks have him dropping and I don't buy it one bit. He's so drat fast He went top 5 in our Goon Draft.
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MY NIGGA D-LINK posted:Defense is so deep this year that I want my team to take him too bc guys that big and fast that can block and has good hands are extremely rare, whereas there's good defensive players throughout every round this draft. Plus the team just plugged their big holes with Smith/Smith/Amos and don't necessarily have to draft a defender high this year just to plug a hole, like they had to last year with Jaire at cornerback because the alternative was starting Tramon Williams and Kevin King with 1.5 shoulders. What really gets me excited about Hock is that every time Rodgers has had a mismatch TE to throw to (Finley, healthy Jared Cook) he's looked unstoppable. It's why Ted and Gute have spent so much money trying to fish a TE out of free agency, with not-great results so far. That Hock is also good at blocking is an extra bonus because of LaFleur's offense frequently having two TEs on the field.  As I said, you can see that I'm talking myself into it more and more even though I was looking forward to picking up someone like Devin White or another defender who fell out of the top 10.
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Mar 28, 2019 02:06
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wandler20 posted:He went top 5 in our Goon Draft.
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Mar 28, 2019 02:23
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Just change that thought to the Packers trading up from 30 to nab a top 15 player who falls.
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Mar 28, 2019 02:24
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I'm actually dying of laughter. Charlie Casserly thinks Daniel Jones is a better prospect than Josh Rosen. https://twitter.com/evansilva/status/1111037662243237893
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Mar 28, 2019 03:31
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Hasn’t Hock to the Packers been in like every mock draft since December? It’s the perfect marriage of player and team.
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Mar 28, 2019 03:42
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kiimo posted:Hasn’t Hock to the Packers been in like every mock draft since December? It’s the perfect marriage of player and team. Lions or Bengals might snap him up before the Packers get their turn at the podium.
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Mar 28, 2019 03:54
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This might be one of my favorite plays from last year: https://twitter.com/BenFennell_NFL/status/1103002192401915904
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Mar 28, 2019 15:54
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I think Burns is much better than Sweat, but Burns would disappear for large chunks of time no?
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Mar 28, 2019 16:14
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if you don't sweat you will overheat but i don't think it causes burns
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Mar 28, 2019 16:17
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Blitz7x posted:I think Burns is much better than Sweat, but Burns would disappear for large chunks of time no? Not really. He was the guy that shows up every game and doesn't really stop the entire game. I'm not saying he dominated the entire time but the effort is definitely there.
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Mar 28, 2019 16:21
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Cavauro posted:if you don't sweat you will overheat but i don't think it causes burns He's talking about nfl draft picks. Trolling isn't very polite of you
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The Big Jesus posted:He's talking about nfl draft picks. Trolling isn't very polite of you Who the hell is talking about Polite we're discussing Sweat Burns
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Mar 28, 2019 16:59
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Wow. https://twitter.com/JoeGoodberry/status/1111301088894947329
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Mar 28, 2019 17:23
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Top 5 confirmed
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Mar 28, 2019 17:24
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Dontari Poe ran a 4.8 while weighing like a hundred pounds more than Oliver
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Mar 28, 2019 17:24
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SHOAH NUFF posted:Dontari Poe ran a 4.8 while weighing like a hundred pounds more than Oliver 4.98 in the 40 at 342 apparently So... (If Wikipedia is wrong sue me) Edit: Looks like Poe ain’t the only slow one 
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Mar 28, 2019 17:26
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SHOAH NUFF posted:Dontari Poe ran a 4.8 while weighing like a hundred pounds more than Oliver 60lbs and 4.98.
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wandler20 posted:60lbs and 4.98. Look that doesn't sound nearly as impressive. I heard once that Grady Jarrett ran a 4.4 weighing more than 3 offensive linemen combined.
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Poe ran at the combine so it's basically a 4.8 hand timed. I'm not sure how much I'm joking here, but I'm betting if Oliver ran at the combine it wouldn't be 4.71.
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Mar 28, 2019 17:32
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weird Asian candy posted:Look that doesn't sound nearly as impressive. it’s like none of these lames have ever told a story
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Mar 28, 2019 17:39
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SHOAH NUFF posted:it’s like none of these lames have ever told a story I appreciated the theatrics. These guys are all made for tv and we are all hollywood. I get you bro 
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Mar 28, 2019 17:41
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Joke's on you TV is Hollywood now.
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Mar 28, 2019 17:50
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Blitz7x posted:I think Burns is much better than Sweat, but Burns would disappear for large chunks of time no? They're pretty comparable in terms of the rate in which they generated pressure in college. Sweat is the better run defender, and I think there's a pretty reasonable hope that you can develop him into a little bit more of a power-oriented player who can play tighter techniques, where Burns is an obligate edge defender.
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Mar 28, 2019 17:52
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kiimo posted:Hasn’t Hock to the Packers been in like every mock draft since December? It’s the perfect marriage of player and team. Be the first time in 16 years the Packers have taken a rb/wr/te in the first. QB or defense only for em for a while now
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Mar 28, 2019 18:11
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SHOAH NUFF posted:Dontari Poe ran a 4.8 while weighing like a hundred pounds more than Oliver It's almost as if 40 times are useless Oliver is seriously a freak I don't know where he goes or where a team puts him when they take him. I read some draftnik commentary that he could stand up and play ILB (in the 3-4) and I was like that's stupid but the more I think about it the more I want to see it happen
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Mar 28, 2019 18:14
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JJ Watt tying LdT is freakish as hell but beating it at a projected DT spot lol
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Mar 28, 2019 18:27
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If Haskins fell into your lap would you Dolphins guys be into that?
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Mar 28, 2019 18:30
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Azhais posted:Be the first time in 16 years the Packers have taken a rb/wr/te in the first. QB or defense only for em for a while now I don't profess to know more about the Packers than anybody else but I do know that they have a new coach eager to change the culture and a pissed off QB who could use Hockenson in every facet of the game.
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Play posted:If Haskins fell into your lap would you Dolphins guys be into that? 🤷🏻♂️
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Mar 28, 2019 18:38
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lol https://twitter.com/angryscout2/status/1111313198748221440
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Play posted:If Haskins fell into your lap would you Dolphins guys be into that? Yeah, I think he's a good fit for the offense and I'm fairly comfortable that Jim Caldwell is a good enough QB coach and a relative lack of urgency are a good fit to deal with his flaws as a player.
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Mar 28, 2019 18:47
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drat, I've put so much work into draftpimp.edu and he roasts me like that.
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Mar 28, 2019 18:53
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So uh, what is this huge knock on Oliver? https://twitter.com/BenjaminSolak/status/1111311410687078401 Edit: Interview here and he says he can run 4.6... https://twitter.com/SlaterNFL/status/1111323831027798018 wandler20 fucked around with this message at 19:04 on Mar 28, 2019 |
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Mar 28, 2019 19:00
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The knocks on Oliver is that he can't maintain gaps or deal with double teams well so plugging him in at DT is kinda shaky at the next level. Some people still care about sacks and he didn't get a lot of them considering how gifted he is at getting into the backfield. He's a polarizing prospect and a unique one at that. I wouldn't blame teams for picking up more solid all around guys.
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Mar 28, 2019 19:20
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wandler20 posted:So uh, what is this huge knock on Oliver?
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I don't think Oliver is really all that complicated. Put him as a 3-technique and don't ask him to play more conservative techniques in the run game. There are plenty of teams in the top 10 that can accommodate that schematically.
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Mar 28, 2019 19:52
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I hope David Montgomery’s slow 40 drops him into the 3rd round or so and the Chiefs pick him up
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Catfish Noodlin posted:I don't think Oliver is really all that complicated. Put him as a 3-technique and don't ask him to play more conservative techniques in the run game. He might be better with a strong ILB behind him who can clean up if he penetrates himself out of the play. Most of the time that penetration will cause way more problems for the opponent than for him, though. So yeah, not that complicated just set that beast loose imo
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