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FAT32 SHAMER
Aug 16, 2012



speaking of cans, i returned $25 in soda cans today thanks to not leaving the house unless i had to all winter

shame kroger doesnt have liquor otherwise i would have bought some :saddowns:

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Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


FAT32 SHAMER posted:

speaking of cans, i returned $25 in soda cans today thanks to not leaving the house unless i had to all winter

shame kroger doesnt have liquor otherwise i would have bought some :saddowns:

The deposit on bottles/cans here is 10 cents under a liter, and 25 cents over a liter.


It's still only like 50 bucks for a truckload, i don't understand how the gently caress people can justify even bothering idling their car for half an hour in line to unload a jetta trunk full of grocery bags full of bottles.

LloydDobler
Oct 15, 2005

You shared it with a dick.

Geoj posted:

Also on a personal note I prefer cans since there's an almost 100% chance they're getting recycled

I started working in the can industry 2 years ago and I've learned some cool facts. Aluminum is 100% recyclable, it can be easily purified back to raw aluminum. Some metals break down or hold the contamination so that it can't ever be restored to its original glory. Aluminum can. (no pun intended). So when you recycle an aluminum can in the united states, it ends up back on the shelf holding a new beverage in an average of 60 days.

Also all cans are epoxy painted on the inside to keep the aluminum from corroding or flavoring the beverage. Beer is the easiest to protect, it's not that acidic. Coke is hard and red wine is a nightmare. You don't see much red wine in cans and when you do it has a pretty short use by date. I just designed a laboratory powder coating machine for cans because powder coat is literally plastic, which appears to be the only thing that won't get eaten by red wine, except for glass. Fun stuff if you're a nerd.


QC I/we have your back. I can't imagine being enough of a dick to look at the person in your picture and still call you sir. Jesus christ what is wrong with people?

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."
I would imagine that canned red wine would also age poorly.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


Beer bottles used to be washed and re-used. Around the bottom rim of the bottle you'll see a bunch of bumps, and they would grind a bump off each time it was washed and refilled until the bottle reached it's lifetime limit on re-uses, but with beer distribution now being national and every brewery pretty much having it's own unique bottle, i have no idea if that is even a thing anymore.

I still do as i was trained when i learned to drink, and put the correct bottles back in their original box to be sent back to the brewer.

This summer I'll hopefully be in the position financially to buy a keg of my favorite beer right from the brewery and a bottle of CO2 and not have to deal with bottles or cans.

FAT32 SHAMER
Aug 16, 2012



Powershift posted:

Beer bottles used to be washed and re-used. Around the bottom rim of the bottle you'll see a bunch of bumps, and they would grind a bump off each time it was washed and refilled until the bottle reached it's lifetime limit on re-uses, but with beer distribution now being national and every brewery pretty much having it's own unique bottle, i have no idea if that is even a thing anymore.

I still do as i was trained when i learned to drink, and put the correct bottles back in their original box to be sent back to the brewer.

This summer I'll hopefully be in the position financially to buy a keg of my favorite beer right from the brewery and a bottle of CO2 and not have to deal with bottles or cans.

Here we have machines that just chuck it into two or three bins: clear bottles and brown / green bottles

cans are crushed by a machine as are plastic bottles.

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."

Powershift posted:

Beer bottles used to be washed and re-used. Around the bottom rim of the bottle you'll see a bunch of bumps, and they would grind a bump off each time it was washed and refilled until the bottle reached it's lifetime limit on re-uses, but with beer distribution now being national and every brewery pretty much having it's own unique bottle, i have no idea if that is even a thing anymore.

I still do as i was trained when i learned to drink, and put the correct bottles back in their original box to be sent back to the brewer.

This summer I'll hopefully be in the position financially to buy a keg of my favorite beer right from the brewery and a bottle of CO2 and not have to deal with bottles or cans.

In Mexico City you are not supposed to take your coke bottles with you from like a food stall because they need to get their deposit back.

Also, book your next vacation in Mexico City. Best trip I've done in a bit.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


FAT32 SHAMER posted:

Here we have machines that just chuck it into two or three bins: clear bottles and brown / green bottles

cans are crushed by a machine as are plastic bottles.

everything here is still sorted by humans.

I would actually like to know if bottles are still re-used, because i still notice the odd bumps.

FAT32 SHAMER
Aug 16, 2012



Powershift posted:

everything here is still sorted by humans.

I would actually like to know if bottles are still re-used, because i still notice the odd bumps.

i know they arent here since theyre smashed into a million pieces and melted down to make new ones

my guess is they leave them on for traction or because theyre using old casts or something

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
I honestly didn't know you could get wine in cans.


Gross.

Fender Anarchist
May 20, 2009

Fender Anarchist

Powershift posted:

Occasionally, my right knee will say "I MUST BE STRAIGHT RIGHT loving NOW" and gently caress anything that's in it's way.

I told yall that compulsory straightness was a bad thing, but did anybody listen? nooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


FAT32 SHAMER posted:

i know they arent here since theyre smashed into a million pieces and melted down to make new ones

my guess is they leave them on for traction or because theyre using old casts or something

Just looking at what's within reach, Villiage Brewery(100km away), Whistler brewing(1000km away) and Warsteiner(5000km away) all have the bumps.




I can't imagine it's economically viable to ship the bottles back even 100kms. back in the 90s pretty much everybody used the same bottle, but recently everybody seems to have their own.

Good thing this chat reminded me to stock up on that chestnut ale before it disappears for the year. It's like if a chocolate bar was a beer.

LloydDobler
Oct 15, 2005

You shared it with a dick.

Also a standard 12 oz beer can costs 6 cents. Each manufacturer has it down to that and it basically can't get any lower unless aluminum becomes cheaper. It's fully automated, there are like 12 guys running a can line that makes 2400 cans a minute. A MINUTE. They run an average of 21 hours a day, 365 days a year.

3,024,000 cans a day.
110,376,000 cans a year. From a single line in a single plant. There are hundreds of plants around the world, none of which are single line.

Also I've heard that the can industry is recession proof. People don't stop drinking soda and/or beer when they're out of money. I'll report back in a year or two when we all find out.

DRINK MOTHERFUCKERS.

LloydDobler fucked around with this message at 07:49 on Mar 30, 2019

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


I can't even remember where i got the knowledge about the bumps being ground off after every use, but in this episode of how it's made, it shows beer bottles of all brands before washing, back when everybody used the same bottle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FttkHVBu2IA

This episode is only from 2001, so not even that long ago.

DJ Commie
Feb 29, 2004

Stupid drivers always breaking car, Gronk fix car...
Not even that long just 20 years ago :sigh:

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


DJ Commie posted:

Not even that long just 20 years ago :sigh:

But 20 years ago was the 80s, what are you talking about?

:smith:


e: 20th anniversary of party like it's 1999!

Elviscat
Jan 1, 2008

Well don't you know I'm caught in a trap?

Holy poo poo that presenter tho.

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

Rhyno posted:

I honestly didn't know you could get wine in cans.


Gross.

I'm surprised goon bags arent a thing in the USA.

Apparently.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


Elviscat posted:

Holy poo poo that presenter tho.

Mark Tewksbury is a Canadian legend. I met him at an airport once and thought he was just the How it's Made guy, and didn't even know he was an olympic medalist and he was the nicest guy ever.

The newer how it's made lady bothers me because she's obviously quebecois trying extremely hard to suppress her accent. Every quebecois i've ever met uses the word "fuckin' at least 3 times per sentence.


CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

I'm surprised goon bags arent a thing in the USA.

Apparently.

I had never even heard of goon bags before i spent time in Australia. I was looked upon as a god the first time i blew up an empty goon bag to use as a pillow.

cakesmith handyman
Jul 22, 2007

Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.

Powershift posted:

The newer how it's made lady bothers me because she's obviously quebecois trying extremely hard to suppress her accent. Every quebecois i've ever met uses the word "fuckin' at least 3 times per sentence.

Now I need adult/nsfw how it's made narrated by this lady swearing every third word.

Ferremit
Sep 14, 2007
if I haven't posted about MY LANDCRUISER yet, check my bullbars for kangaroo prints

Well apparently we're alcoholics or something cos our load of deposit recycling for the last 4 or so months netted us over $120. At 10c per item....

Im so glad I hoarded some codine based painkillers before they became prescription only meds.. standard OTC ibuprofin and paracetamol wasnt even coming close to touching this ache.

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

FAT32 SHAMER posted:

speaking of cans, i returned $25 in soda cans today thanks to not leaving the house unless i had to all winter

shame kroger doesnt have liquor otherwise i would have bought some :saddowns:

At least you have Kroger there. While I certainly have developed a very deep love for HEB (seriously great prices, great meat and produce, generally good prices overall, and I see why they have the cult-like following), it's basically them, Randall's (aka Tom Thumb aka the $$$$ arm of Albertsons/Safeway), Trader Joe's, Sprouts, or Whole Foods here. So basically 2 mainstream grocers and 3 high end ones. Plus H-Mart, but they're not that well known unless you have one in your area. DFW had a couple of Super H-Marts; the one here is kind of a hybrid (regular H-Mart format, but has a huge food court with a stage, live music, alcohol, etc - the Super H-Marts usually have a ring of independent shops around the actual store plus a food court, while regular H-Marts normally ditch the food court). The nearest Kroger is almost 2 hours away.

I miss Kroger, Aldi, Winco, and, as much as I hate to admit it, Walmart Neighborhood Market (Walmart's grocery store format, which I worked for at one point). The HEB by me, for example (a "Plus!" store, which carries some electronics and clothing in addition to groceries), doesn't carry steel cut oats, unless you buy in bulk (and it winds up being about 10x as much as going to Randall's and buying prepackaged Safeway private label organic steel cut oats). A lot of Mexican stuff I'm used to finding in every grocery store in DFW doesn't exist here, unless you go to a Hispanic-oriented grocery store.

Ether Frenzy posted:

It's far better than the other "superlights", like BL Platinum or Michelob Ultra, which seem to have no alcohol in them.

Ultra is definitely low on the alcohol scale @ 4.2%. Platinum is a solid 6% though, and was my favorite cheaper beer until moving to Austin. But it's kinda heavy despite the calorie count - it's like drinking bread.

Real Ale's Devil's Backbone is 8.1%, costs about the same at HEB for either a 6 or 12 pack (+/- 50 cents or so), and tastes a lot better (for me anyway). It has a lot more carbs, but it only takes 3 for me to get a decent buzz off of it, vs 5 or 6 from Platinum. It's also available in both cans and bottles. I prefer cans because I can crush them and toss them into my inside recycling, instead of having to take the empty bottles out to the recycling (at the other end of my apartment complex) every time I drink. I could get it in Dallas, but it was generally $9-11 for a 6 pack. It's $7 and change here at HEB, a bit more in other grocery stores, but even 7-11 usually sells it for about $9 per sixer.

Lone Star is <$6 for a 6 pack at most stores (I've seen 12 packs for $9.99 at 7-11, which is usually the highest priced convenience store chain), but it's hard for me to drink. I'd take Natty Light or High Life over it, but if you want to drink super cheap, it's that or Natty.

randomidiot fucked around with this message at 09:49 on Mar 30, 2019

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011


Powershift posted:

The newer how it's made lady bothers me because she's obviously quebecois trying extremely hard to suppress her accent. Every quebecois i've ever met uses the word "fuckin' at least 3 times per sentence.

My boss is quebecois, and speaks with a pretty flat north american accent most of the time, but definitely uses "fuckin'" a lot. Quite a few cunts and the occasional tabarnak as well, at which point the accent comes out.

One of the guys on our team is from France so once in a while there'll just be a conversation in French and I get maaaaaybe one out of every three words.

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

I mean, every third or fourth word out of my mouth is "gently caress" or "fuckin" or "poo poo" or "motherfucker" or something closely related to creative swearing unless I'm talking to my parents (then it's every 5th or 6th word), and I'm very fuckin much American. My mother does literal facepalms every time I open my mouth in public with her; she never swears beyond hell or damnit.

When I'm really pissed off, "gently caress" is every fuckin word, with an occasional regular word inserted.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

коммунизм хранится в яичках
My dad was a trucker, and I did a ton of DIY work with him as a boy. Then I went to work in kitchens.

I can swear the paint off a wall, and have to consciously stop myself from using 'gently caress' for emphasis in formal corporate emails.

Suburban Dad
Jan 10, 2007


Well what's attached to a leash that it made itself?
The punchline is the way that you've been fuckin' yourself




Working in a corporate environment and not swearing like normal is hard. Same for whenever my kid is around.

I think I was meant to be a sailor.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

коммунизм хранится в яичках
I'm lucky our office policy is laid back. My sister does it too, she's settled for teaching my niece to swear at socially appropriate times because she didn't manage to keep her from picking up on her mom's language.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.
Tbh that's why I'm glad I'm in engineering. Just passionate about our work, boss! Swearing is caring!

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


FAT32 SHAMER posted:

speaking of cans, i returned $25 in soda cans today thanks to not leaving the house unless i had to all winter

shame kroger doesnt have liquor otherwise i would have bought some :saddowns:

I have been holding onto all cans and botles. Cans becuase a random yt video on melting. So a failed project. Bottles beause I used to brew.

Reality: I have a LOT of alcoholism evidence

Speaking of......I was driving around town and mentally automatically drove into the Bottlo for a carton. I proudly turned the car the opposite into a church. For those playing at home I'm quitting smokes (2 months), wife left us, and I'm trying to not drink.
90s poo poo club music and fumes of 3D Printing are my distration

freelop
Apr 28, 2013

Where we're going, we won't need fries to see



InitialDave posted:

Tbh that's why I'm glad I'm in engineering. Just passionate about our work, boss! Swearing is caring!

And healthy cynisism

HandlingByJebus
Jun 21, 2009

All of a sudden, I found myself in love with the world, so there was only one thing I could do:
was ding a ding dang, my dang a long racecar.

It's a love affair. Mainly jebus, and my racecar.

Suburban Dad posted:

Working in a corporate environment and not swearing like normal is hard. Same for whenever my kid is around.

I think I was meant to be a sailor.

I am a manager in a corporate environment and use “gently caress” for emphasis in emails to leadership occasionally. Because it’s rare, it can be highly effective. FWIW.

Somewhat Heroic
Oct 11, 2007

(Insert Mad Max related text)



I finally got to watch the Spider-Man into the spiderverse movie thanks to Redbox. (Having small kids cramps your movie going experiences) I watched it in the home cinema downstairs with the volume all the way up. That was a kickass movie. Like easily the best animated film of the year.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

freelop posted:

And healthy cynisism
"Healthy"...

Just had a bellend in an S14 rag up my road, then come round the other way and powerslide it out the junction. Yeah, that'll be why we got letters saying they're installing speed humps next month.

Can't say I object to be honest. There's a main road running parallel, it's not like they'll get in the way other than people using the street as a rat run.

The Door Frame
Dec 5, 2011

I don't know man everytime I go to the gym here there are like two huge dudes with raging high and tights snorting Nitro-tech off of each other's rock hard abs.
Speed humps are the worst and laziest way to discourage speeding. Why don't they use rumble strips, tighten the road, plant more trees, enforce the traffic laws, or anything else so that people aren't driving in the parking lane to avoid bottoming out their suspensions?

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.
It's a straight road in a built up area. All they can do is speedhumps or chicanes.

I'm assuming we're getting humps. Might be chicanes.

But either way, while I don't like the things, people really are taking the piss at present, and it's about the only thing I can see actually working.

Elviscat
Jan 1, 2008

Well don't you know I'm caught in a trap?

Speed humps are fine imo, as long as they're the nice long gentle ones that you can float over if you're going an appropriate speed, but will launch you at higher speeds, the narrow high ones that you have to slow to a crawl to get over without rattling out your fillings can get hosed though.

The Door Frame
Dec 5, 2011

I don't know man everytime I go to the gym here there are like two huge dudes with raging high and tights snorting Nitro-tech off of each other's rock hard abs.
I prefer rumble strips for speed control, but islands, chicanes/diversions, chokers, or any other road narrowing schemes are also really good

Chicago has the worst speed humps outside of New Jersey, and I loathe them. I've never lowered a car, but both the 944 and the Capri nearly bottom out unless I take them diagonally across the humps

Elviscat
Jan 1, 2008

Well don't you know I'm caught in a trap?

I feel like those are good at managing the speed of flow for general traffic, but just provide opportunities for the wycked syck boy racer in his S14 described to show off his tyte drifting skills into a school bus full of nuns and babies

Ref: me as a 16yo in my V6 Mustang

The Door Frame
Dec 5, 2011

I don't know man everytime I go to the gym here there are like two huge dudes with raging high and tights snorting Nitro-tech off of each other's rock hard abs.

Elviscat posted:

I feel like those are good at managing the speed of flow for general traffic, but just provide opportunities for the wycked syck boy racer in his S14 described to show off his tyte drifting skills into a school bus full of nuns and babies

Ref: me as a 16yo in my V6 Mustang

Counterpoint, I snapped the rear axle in half on my Windstar by going over speed humps at 35 miles an hour because I thought it was cool. Teenagers defy all conventional logic and ruin everything because they can

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Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug

Powershift posted:

The deposit on bottles/cans here is 10 cents under a liter, and 25 cents over a liter.


It's still only like 50 bucks for a truckload, i don't understand how the gently caress people can justify even bothering idling their car for half an hour in line to unload a jetta trunk full of grocery bags full of bottles.

There's some service related to Skip the Dishes called Skip the Depot where they seem to just hire random scrappers to come and pick up bags of recyclables from your lawn, and give you either a % of the cash or donate to charity (which is tax deductible).

Hopefully it expands to central AB, although I suspect any scrap metal you leave outside (aluminum siding, sidewalk pavers, cars) gets stolen pretty quick...

The local cat shelter is really happy that I have a raging Coke habit.

Seat Safety Switch fucked around with this message at 19:41 on Mar 30, 2019

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