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davidspackage
May 16, 2007

Nap Ghost

AlBorlantern Corps posted:

What if we patched in power from the shuttles

*punches palm* Like stealing cable from a neighbor!

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HD DAD
Jan 13, 2010

Generic white guy.

Toilet Rascal

davidspackage posted:

*punches palm* Like stealing cable from a neighbor!

“What if we stole cable from our neighbor?”

*punches palm* Like diverting the plasma flow from the reaction chamber to the deflector dish!

Phylodox
Mar 30, 2006



College Slice

The Bloop posted:

*posts John Galt speech in binary*

Hmmm, weird...



I guess computers know something we don't.

spincube
Jan 31, 2006

I spent :10bux: so I could say that I finally figured out what this god damned cube is doing. Get well Lowtax.
Grimey Drawer
Wouldn't it be different if they went with the idea that you can't shoot through shields? If we assume that shields are almost impenetrable to weapons, but shields need to be dropped to open fire, it would turn space battles from pew-pew DBZ-with-laser-beams fireworks displays, into high-noon gunslinger quick-draw shootouts.

I love the idea of Picard and Tomalak facing-off through their viewscreens, each waiting for the other to blink - it works for TOS' Cold War allegories, and TNG's poker nights.

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Phylodox posted:

Hmmm, weird...



I guess computers know something we don't.

nice

Wungus
Mar 5, 2004

spincube posted:

Wouldn't it be different if they went with the idea that you can't shoot through shields? If we assume that shields are almost impenetrable to weapons, but shields need to be dropped to open fire, it would turn space battles from pew-pew DBZ-with-laser-beams fireworks displays, into high-noon gunslinger quick-draw shootouts.

I love the idea of Picard and Tomalak facing-off through their viewscreens, each waiting for the other to blink - it works for TOS' Cold War allegories, and TNG's poker nights.

Well poo poo I'm frantically scribbling this down in my story notes document

davidspackage
May 16, 2007

Nap Ghost

HD DAD posted:

“What if we stole cable from our neighbor?”

*punches palm* Like diverting the plasma flow from the reaction chamber to the deflector dish!

It'll take me four hours.

Nullsmack
Dec 7, 2001
Digital apocalypse

Brawnfire posted:

I'll have to reroute through tertiary, there's a cascade neutrino failure in the interstitial matrix!!????

Just reverse the polarity. Works every time. It was too bright in my room the other day so I reversed the polarity and now it gets darker when I turn the light on.

Phylodox
Mar 30, 2006



College Slice

davidspackage posted:

It'll take me four hours.

You have negative twelve seconds!

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

honk honk
College Slice
Clearly if you use the phase trick to beam through the shields, anybody scanning the transporter signature could instantly tell what your shield harmonic frequency is or whatever the technobabble term is I forget. So using that trick in front of an enemy (i.e., the only time you'd care) is suicide

torpedoes get through by timing the firing for the tiny 0.01 second gap in the shields that gets mentioned a few times, same principle as old timey military airplanes having guns rigged to fire when the bullets will slip between the propeller blades. Phasers use the harmonics trick to get through the shields but are noisy enough that enemy sensors can't figure it out just by scanning the phaser blast

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

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I'd love to see the few years of ships that fired through their own shields and hoped they held longer than the enemy's

CPColin
Sep 9, 2003

Big ol' smile.

Brawnfire posted:

I'd love to see the few years of ships that fired through their own shields and hoped they held longer than the enemy's

So, basically this?

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LifeGetsWorser
Oct 23, 2010

Me "IRL" :smug:
Fun Shoe

AlBorlantern Corps posted:

What if we patched in power from the shuttles

We'd have to repolarize the primary warp coils. I tried, but every time I override the intital security field the secondary locks me out and I have to start over!

spincube
Jan 31, 2006

I spent :10bux: so I could say that I finally figured out what this god damned cube is doing. Get well Lowtax.
Grimey Drawer

Brawnfire posted:

I'd love to see the few years of ships that fired through their own shields and hoped they held longer than the enemy's

Torpedoes bouncing around the inside of the shield like a pool trickshot, while the ship is drifting around a star

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


LifeGetsWorser posted:

We'd have to repolarize the primary warp coils. I tried, but every time I override the intital security field the secondary locks me out and I have to start over!

*Emo goth teenage girl cracks knuckles*

Looks like I'll have to hack all eps conduits simultaneously

Tighclops
Jan 23, 2008

Unable to deal with it


Grimey Drawer

AlBorlantern Corps posted:

*Emo goth teenage girl cracks knuckles*

Looks like I'll have to hack all eps conduits simultaneously

this will be an actual scene in a star trek production sometime within the next 5 to 10 years

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


The sooner the better

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

*two people typing on console*

jeeves
May 27, 2001

Deranged Psychopathic
Butler Extraordinaire
Scroll Down To Riker

Sash!
Mar 16, 2001


Given that the Enterprise D ran malicious code that it downloaded from another ship without even asking for permission, I'm shocked that the viewscreen isn't nothing but layer upon layer of Ferengi porno banner ads and purple gorillas dancing in the corner.

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

Sash! posted:

Given that the Enterprise D ran malicious code that it downloaded from another ship without even asking for permission, I'm shocked that the viewscreen isn't nothing but layer upon layer of Ferengi porno banner ads and purple gorillas dancing in the corner.

"Captain this "Bon'z Buddy" is WITHOUT HONOR."

Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

We're fucking built for this shit!
My favorite thing about the implications of the shield frequency trick in Generations is that, if matching the shield frequency is all it takes to shoot through the shields, all you have to do is get your shields to read the frequency of the other ships phasers and boom they're hosed.

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer
Thinking about 24th century malware, now I wonder what the Enterprise's max storage capacity is. Obviously it needs to hold multiple transporter patterns (which at the high end estimate is 60 zettabytes per person though that's probably uncompressed), but it also has been able to store the entirety of a civilization's data (for context, the entire Internet right now is over half a zettabyte), accept malicious code and programs, run holodeck simulations, store those simulations as their own worlds whenever a hologram achieves sentience, etc.

I remember a book (The Physics of Star Trek) giving possibly a different figure for storing a human but their main complaint was "this would require a stack of hard drives a mile long" as if hard drive capacity peaked at 1.5GB and never went any further. (it was written quite a while ago).

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

honk honk
College Slice
I wouldn't be surprised if the occurrence with the Breen where the shields are just completely ineffective against their weapons for a bit then the engineers figure out countermeasures has got to be pretty common. Sometimes you might even sit on the fact that you can bypass their shields for a while only to use it in a critical battle

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!

Q_res posted:

My favorite thing about the implications of the shield frequency trick in Generations is that, if matching the shield frequency is all it takes to shoot through the shields, all you have to do is get your shields to read the frequency of the other ships phasers and boom they're hosed.

Or something like, a rapid-fire low-damage laser that goes through the entire frequency spectrum until it gets a hit, then set your other weapons to that and fire.
Of course then the other ship could randomize their frequency again or whatever.
Just constantly randomizing frequencies.




Yeah I guess Generations just doesn't make sense

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

Sir Lemming posted:

Or something like, a rapid-fire low-damage laser that goes through the entire frequency spectrum until it gets a hit, then set your other weapons to that and fire.
Of course then the other ship could randomize their frequency again or whatever.
Just constantly randomizing frequencies.

:techno: Some sort of...infinite modulation...

Wungus
Mar 5, 2004

Sash! posted:

Given that the Enterprise D ran malicious code that it downloaded from another ship without even asking for permission, I'm shocked that the viewscreen isn't nothing but layer upon layer of Ferengi porno banner ads and purple gorillas dancing in the corner.
Orville did it is gunna be the new Simpsons did it mark my words

Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

This may or may not be correct.

Angry_Ed posted:

:techno: Some sort of...infinite modulation...

Still feels wild to me that none of the shows got around to this but Elite Force of all things totally did.

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

Angry_Ed posted:

60 zettabytes per person though that's probably uncompressed

Jesus Christ, Darcy, I told you not to use jpeg. Look at the Captain! Look what you did!!

[a blocky, jagged mass of flesh mewls on the transport pad]

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

Blade_of_tyshalle posted:

Jesus Christ, Darcy, I told you not to use jpeg. Look at the Captain! Look what you did!!

[a blocky, jagged mass of flesh mewls on the transport pad]

We can still save him! *clicks "sharpen image" a dozen times" Oh God in Heaven, what have we done

CPColin
Sep 9, 2003

Big ol' smile.
Quick, run him through a machine learning upscaling algorithm!

*swirly pile of eyeballs and dog noses materializes*

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

Reset Captain to last working save state? [Y/N] Warning: some memory contents may be lost.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Computer, 500 captains.

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

W-why is his skin blue?

Alright, why is there a hue filter at all, nevermind why is it applied

Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

This may or may not be correct.

Baronjutter posted:

Computer, 500 captains.

500 Starfleet captains parachute onto an island...

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


Delsaber posted:

500 Starfleet captains parachute onto an island...

Darmok and 500 Starfleet Captains at the island

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

AlBorlantern Corps posted:

Darmok and 500 Starfleet Captains at the island

Bethesda, when the servers crashed

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl
more useless shields trivia: Scotty says they can't use the phasers while the shields are up, but could still use the photon torpedoes to give Eminiar A Taste Of Armageddon.

Nodosaur
Dec 23, 2014

Angry_Ed posted:

Thinking about 24th century malware, now I wonder what the Enterprise's max storage capacity is. Obviously it needs to hold multiple transporter patterns (which at the high end estimate is 60 zettabytes per person though that's probably uncompressed), but it also has been able to store the entirety of a civilization's data (for context, the entire Internet right now is over half a zettabyte), accept malicious code and programs, run holodeck simulations, store those simulations as their own worlds whenever a hologram achieves sentience, etc.

I remember a book (The Physics of Star Trek) giving possibly a different figure for storing a human but their main complaint was "this would require a stack of hard drives a mile long" as if hard drive capacity peaked at 1.5GB and never went any further. (it was written quite a while ago).

Isn't the first episode with the Iconians basically their probe dumping a bunch of Iconian malware on the Enterprise-D?

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Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

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Angry_Ed posted:

Thinking about 24th century malware, now I wonder what the Enterprise's max storage capacity is. Obviously it needs to hold multiple transporter patterns (which at the high end estimate is 60 zettabytes per person though that's probably uncompressed), but it also has been able to store the entirety of a civilization's data (for context, the entire Internet right now is over half a zettabyte), accept malicious code and programs, run holodeck simulations, store those simulations as their own worlds whenever a hologram achieves sentience, etc.

I remember a book (The Physics of Star Trek) giving possibly a different figure for storing a human but their main complaint was "this would require a stack of hard drives a mile long" as if hard drive capacity peaked at 1.5GB and never went any further. (it was written quite a while ago).
The most sensible thing they ever did was give all their figures in "quads" when it came to computer poo poo

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