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I played persona 4 years ago and trailed off around floor 9 or something of kanji's dungeon because it was incredibly boring. Persona 5 having handcrafted dungeons is one of the biggest reasons I found the game so much more enjoyable.
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Yeah what the gently caress. The dungeons having actual set pieces and designs were fantastic.
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Mar 31, 2019 23:37
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It's especially bad if you want to replay the game. It's a huge chore. The dungeons and 3 and 4 were a lot more enjoyable.
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Mar 31, 2019 23:42
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The dungeons in 4 were terrible and I resented ever having to go inside them.
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I thought the dungeons in 4 were mostly fine (but nothing fantastic, either) but I have some strong words for whoever designed Void Quest The dungeons in 3.......existed, I guess?
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Apr 1, 2019 00:14
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Speaking of 4, Mitsuo is down. Black Frost did the trick so thanks whoever suggested it. My SLink was high enough when I fused him to also get Agidyne, and that in conjunction with Mind Charge and Tarunda meant I was hitting for almost 750 a pop. He went down like a chump, pretty much. To chime in on the current discussion: I prefer 5's dungeons to 4's. The rat puzzle is SUPER tedious, even on ng+ when you already know it. it's still slow and annoying. 4's just aren't interesting enough. Kanji's in particular felt like a slog because it's just floors and floors of the same poo poo. I'd much rather have handcrafted layouts and set pieces. Mementos manage to utilize the random generator well enough without getting boring, unless you are banging out 10 requests at a time. but that's more on you than anything else.
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Apr 1, 2019 00:58
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My biggest problem with Mementos (aside from the music) is how you can't use the "hide" mechanic, where you peek around corners and sneak attack enemies. Tell me you wouldn't want to see Bus-Mona being sneaky and I'll call you a liar.
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Apr 1, 2019 01:11
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The dungeons in P4 are whatever but they have great music so I don't care. They are inoffensively bland so the music makes me forgive that. "Heaven" makes Nanako's dungeon positively amazing. Should see the dungeons in P2IS if you want bad Persona dungeons. All the tribulations of your SMT dungeon - teleporters, trapdoors, poison floors - but combined with a poo poo encounter rate and battle system. Even great music can't save them.
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Alacron posted:My biggest problem with Mementos (aside from the music) is how you can't use the "hide" mechanic, where you peek around corners and sneak attack enemies. I mean, it's not really necessary? Most of the stuff you fight in Mementos is pretty weak, and half the time you're either hitting them from behind or juking them and then hitting them from behind. I do agree about the music though, and it's extra bad in a game filled to the brim was awesome music.
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Apr 1, 2019 06:13
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Tartarus is boring, P4's dungeons are better but I still prefer P5's Palaces a lot. The fact that it's not just mindless randomly generated dungeons works in its favour, especially in NG+. I was able to breeze through them more or less in my recent playthrough (especially having SP Adhesives, better equipment and when you rank up Ryuji's S.Link to get the ability which lets you avoid fights with lower level enemies).
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Apr 1, 2019 12:22
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I enjoy the palaces in P5. I don't think I'd enjoy going back to randomly generated palaces, especially cause I thought the Bank and Casino palaces were absolutely great, and the Pyramid palace was really good. Kamoshida's and the museum palace were good and thematic, but not like stand out worthy. The space palace wasn't bad other than the one tedious as gently caress puzzle. The ship can get fired into the sun. I'd like to see a short cut option in NG+ kinda like how Tactics Ogre (PSP) has when you've already completed a long story dungeon/multi stage fight where there's a backdoor to cut out the BS.
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waah posted:I enjoy the palaces in P5. I don't think I'd enjoy going back to randomly generated palaces, especially cause I thought the Bank and Casino palaces were absolutely great, and the Pyramid palace was really good. Kamoshida's and the museum palace were good and thematic, but not like stand out worthy. The space palace wasn't bad other than the one tedious as gently caress puzzle. The ship can get fired into the sun. Oh if we're starting a list of things I'd like to see in ng+: - NO tutorials for ANYTHING. Ever. I already beat the game once. You don't need to tell me what a Social Link is, what a skill is, what fusion is, etc. That made the ng+ playthrough FAR more tedious than it needed to be. And that's even with farming the reaper to get to lvl 99, so most Shadow fights didn't happen at all. I'd Ambush and just get the mask.
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NikkolasKing posted:The dungeons in P4 are whatever but they have great music so I don't care. They are inoffensively bland so the music makes me forgive that. "Heaven" makes Nanako's dungeon positively amazing. The later musics have good dungeon, but I couldn't tell you what Yukiko, Kanji, Rise, Mitsuo, or Naoto's dungeon themes sounded like. Macaluso posted:I mean, it's not really necessary? Most of the stuff you fight in Mementos is pretty weak, and half the time you're either hitting them from behind or juking them and then hitting them from behind. Tartarus had great music, and the option to switch to other songs. Mementos has a 5 second loop that doesn't even sound good.  At least the remix is okay.
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Cuntellectual posted:The later musics have good dungeon, but I couldn't tell you what Yukiko, Kanji, Rise, Mitsuo, or Naoto's dungeon themes sounded like. Really? I remember all of them pretty well but I'm surprised anyone would forget Rise's. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKk4n-yAjjU I love techno club music, though. And Mitsuo of course had that cool retro vibe going https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y_9P1y7V98 A lot of people love Naoto's dungeon theme too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA7npsd5xKc
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NikkolasKing posted:The dungeons in P4 are whatever but they have great music so I don't care. They are inoffensively bland so the music makes me forgive that. "Heaven" makes Nanako's dungeon positively amazing. Basically the same opinion here. The only ones I didn't really like were Kanji's dungeon theme (it was ok in short segments, but I'd get tired of it after a while) and Mitsuo's (I was kinda neutral on the retro version). I like the custom P5 dungeons way more in general than the older, randomized ones, and the only custom ones I didn't like more (space station and ship) were because of poorly implemented gimmicks.
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I think the puzzle parts of P5's dungeons would drag less if you didn't also have enemies in those rooms interrupting you.
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Apr 1, 2019 22:30
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Tartarus music was nice to listen to. I think it's because I liked playing late at night and it fit thematically
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Man, even though they take place within the same number of days, P5 feels like such a drag with how many days you lose out of because of some short scene happening during the day and then Morgana telling you to go to bed compared to other entries. P3 literally had some event happen every month that took up a full week or two, but the Full Moon system helped keep things consistent. In P4, you also had plenty of time in between kidnappings to just kind of hang around and do social links, but P5 feels like the game really, really expects you to finish the dungeon in one/two days so you can social link with the time remaining, because as soon as the change of heart happens you're on the railroads toward the next case. P3 lived on that month-to-month tension, but P4 had lots of fun things like the festivals to give you not just a combat break, but also a tonal break where the gang goes to a festival or on the camping trip or something.
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NikkolasKing posted:Really? I remember all of them pretty well but I'm surprised anyone would forget Rise's. Rise's sounds like extremely generic music I'd hear at a second-rate club, and Mitsuo's is just generic "retro" music. I really am not a fan of either. Naoto's, however, I'll give you. It's good.
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RazzleDazzleHour posted:Man, even though they take place within the same number of days, P5 feels like such a drag with how many days you lose out of because of some short scene happening during the day and then Morgana telling you to go to bed compared to other entries.
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Persona 5 S website went live https://p5s.jp/ In the source code: <!--【予告状】--> <!--2019年4月25日。--> <!--世界の認知を覆す、新たな怪盗団をお見せしよう。--> <!--我々は会心を求む声に躍動する。--> <!--今一度、両国国技館にて諸君の心を頂戴する。--> <!--心の怪盗団より-->
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Dehry posted:Persona 5 S website went live according to google translate that means: In the source code: <!-[Notice letter]-> <!-April 25, 2019. -> <!-I will show you a new monster thief that will overturn the world's cognition. -> <!-We are excited about the voice of the meeting. -> <!-Once again, we will receive your heart at the Gokugikan. -> <!-From the Phantom Thief
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Apr 2, 2019 07:25
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The place they're talking about is a real place. Probably for an announcement event.
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Sounds like a good place to announce a new fighting game.
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God we're not getting Joker in Smash until the 25th are we
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Cuntellectual posted:The later musics have good dungeon, but I couldn't tell you what Yukiko, Kanji, Rise, Mitsuo, or Naoto's dungeon themes sounded like. Everytime I was in mementos I would just play Spotify music. Made the entire thing much more enjoyable
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Macaluso posted:God we're not getting Joker in Smash until the 25th are we Yuuuuuuuuup! The rumor is Nintendo wanted to release him way earlier, but Atlus has been making them wait.
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Zelder posted:Everytime I was in mementos I would just play Spotify music. Made the entire thing much more enjoyable Mementos was a great time to mute the tv catch up on podcasts. I listened to almost all of The Adventure Zone down there.
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:Yuuuuuuuuup! I'd be fine with that if it means Persona 5 on Switch
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DLC Inc posted:I'd be fine with that if it means Persona 5 on Switch Well, https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1113252979954425857
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Apr 3, 2019 03:50
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P5R - The new girl is Marie 2 or some anti-theif character trying to foil the Phantom Theives P5S - Switch version of base Persona 5 with modified/stylized graphics.
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Dehry posted:P5R - The new girl is Marie 2 or some anti-theif character trying to foil the Phantom Theives I'd be kind of wild if they released a new, updated version of P5 and then also released a Switch version without any of that new stuff but stranger things have happened I guess
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Apr 3, 2019 04:09
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P5R - Persona 5 Racing
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RazzleDazzleHour posted:I'd be kind of wild if they released a new, updated version of P5 and then also released a Switch version without any of that new stuff but stranger things have happened I guess this sounds like a quintessentially nintendo thing to happen
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Dehry posted:P5R - The new girl is Marie 2 or some anti-theif character trying to foil the Phantom Theives The Switch could absolutely run P5 as is, but yeah I wouldn’t be surprised if the Switch somehow wound up with the base game instead of P5R
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Apr 3, 2019 06:00
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i dont think it would have a different title if it was the same game they would just say p5r now on switch too. maybe theyll have mushroom kingdom outfits to say switch got some exclusive feature
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RazzleDazzleHour posted:I'd be kind of wild if they released a new, updated version of P5 and then also released a Switch version without any of that new stuff but stranger things have happened I guess Isn’t that exactly what they just did with Catherine on Steam?
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Apr 3, 2019 06:26
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I'll be shocked if the Switch version doesn't have Nintendo themed outfits. Morgana in a little Peach dress or Toad outfit
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RazzleDazzleHour posted:Man, even though they take place within the same number of days, P5 feels like such a drag with how many days you lose out of because of some short scene happening during the day and then Morgana telling you to go to bed compared to other entries. P3 literally had some event happen every month that took up a full week or two, but the Full Moon system helped keep things consistent. In P4, you also had plenty of time in between kidnappings to just kind of hang around and do social links, but P5 feels like the game really, really expects you to finish the dungeon in one/two days so you can social link with the time remaining, because as soon as the change of heart happens you're on the railroads toward the next case. P3 lived on that month-to-month tension, but P4 had lots of fun things like the festivals to give you not just a combat break, but also a tonal break where the gang goes to a festival or on the camping trip or something.
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Luigi Thirty posted:P5R - Persona 5 Racing Persona 5 Rammers
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