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Mind_Taker posted:Yeah but it's still effective. Trump is way shittier than Biden but Trump voters don't give a poo poo while uninformed Democrats might actually be turned off by Biden's behavior the more they learn about it and stay home on election day. The funniest part about that thread was that there was like one chud lady in it who was like "why are we doing the left's work for them; we can beat Biden in a general if he's the nominee!"
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Fritz Coldcockin posted:If the economy is already wrecked, that argument is going to ring hollow with a large majority of the country. Dude, the economy could completely crater and the media corporations and their HENRY anchors will still constantly sneer “look at Venezuela, socialism will just make things worse” followed by a dozen sob stories about insurance specialists and data entry clerks who will lose their livelihoods with M4A 2008 has the worst economy since the Great Depression, and yet in 2010 “HOW DARE YOU DO A SOCIALISM WITH OBAMACARE” was a gigantic wave, so don’t tell me the American people will think twice about any “rah rah capitalism” bullshit
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skeleton warrior posted:Dude, the economy could completely crater and the media corporations and their HENRY anchors will still constantly sneer “look at Venezuela, socialism will just make things worse” followed by a dozen sob stories about insurance specialists and data entry clerks who will lose their livelihoods with M4A Uh, GWB's approval dropped to 25% on the back of that recession, and the Republicans got clobbered in 2008. But a combination of: 1. Liberals being content that they had now won, having elected a black guy 2. The economy still being bad in 2010, and the current president always gets blame for current circumstances 3. Conservatives being furious that we elected a black guy 4. Obamacare being passed Caused it to swing back. The economy tanking can hurt Republicans, the world isn't THAT different than it was in 2007.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Also a lot of Democrats were the ones running away from Obamacare and tarring it as socialism. We will never ever have universal health care tho
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skeleton warrior posted:Dude, the economy could completely crater and the media corporations and their HENRY anchors will still constantly sneer “look at Venezuela, socialism will just make things worse” followed by a dozen sob stories about insurance specialists and data entry clerks who will lose their livelihoods with M4A (Of course they mostly ran on nonspecific identity issues, culture war poo poo etc.)
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pangstrom posted:In 2010 the Republicans #1 "specific" issue wasn't "obamacare is socialism", it was "obamacare is going to gently caress up medicare". Also "Obamacare death panels"
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Trump going out of his way to make healthcare the marquee issue of 2020 is an amazing own goal. It would be, if his addled brain would remember it past like Saturday
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I think Obama did fairly well in 2010 and 2012 if you think voters were blaming him for the weak economy, historically. A bad economy is usually pretty devastating in elections. But I also don't think people generally blamed Obama for the economy. Edit: but I've also said Trump's approval rating is oddly low considering the relatively strong economy and relatively peaceful world stage. Tibalt fucked around with this message at 16:47 on Apr 3, 2019 |
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Tibalt posted:I think Obama did fairly well in 2010 and 2012 if you think voters were blaming him for the weak economy, historically. A bad economy is usually pretty devastating in elections. They blamed him for being black, hope that helps everyone out a bit
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Not a Children posted:They blamed him for being black, hope that helps everyone out a bit Unless he was suddenly more black in 2010 and 2012 than he was in 2008, this analysis isn't as insightful as you think it is, hth
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theflyingorc posted:Uh, GWB's approval dropped to 25% on the back of that recession, and the Republicans got clobbered in 2008. Yeah, if the economy tanks in the next 18 months it will ruin Republicans in the 2020 election. And the Democrats could lose that all again in '22 but you know about bridges before you come to them.
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skylined! posted:Move over measles, trichinosis is poised to make its glorious comeback. This administration is singlehandedly going to cause a new plague TulliusCicero fucked around with this message at 17:10 on Apr 3, 2019 |
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The Glumslinger posted:Also "Obamacare death panels" God drat that poo poo was so loving stupid. Death panels already exist and have existed for a long time now, but they're run by for profit insurance companies you loving morons, you absolute loving idiots. (not referring to you of course)
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skylined! posted:Move over measles, trichinosis is poised to make its glorious comeback. They'll market it as Chilean Roundworm and create a whole new market segment
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Well this was entirely the wrong thread but let me say that the Trump administration presumably hates blind people and wants them to run with defective strollers, I'll hang up and listen
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What thread was that intended for?
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No no tell us more
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theflyingorc posted:Uh, GWB's approval dropped to 25% on the back of that recession, and the Republicans got clobbered in 2008. Bush also had two less-than-popular wars and had talked about privatizing Social Security. I absolutely agree that if the economy tanks, it will help Democrats, but I don't think it'll be the massive drop to his numbers that people expect. But I think that's a discussion of degrees, not of outcomes.
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Look I know we've come up with no plan for healthcare the last 12 years but please just trust me on this one, if you elect me for 4 more years we will definitely hash it all out and it'll be great. No I can't give you even a basic outline of what it'll look like but just believe that it'll happen and be good.
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Pinecone Sample posted:Well this was entirely the wrong thread but let me say that the Trump administration presumably hates blind people and wants them to run with defective strollers, I'll hang up and listen jojoinnit posted:No no tell us more https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...e0cd_story.html
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twice burned ice posted:Unless he was suddenly more black in 2010 and 2012 than he was in 2008, this analysis isn't as insightful as you think it is, hth White people who softly supposed Obama believed themselves to not be racist. Once they realized a black man had “power” over them, they lost their minds and the racism came out in full force.
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Thanks but he was telling a story about dry shaving armpits without looking and therefore he's equivalent to a blind person I think?
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Pinecone Sample posted:Well this was entirely the wrong thread but let me say that the Trump administration presumably hates blind people and wants them to run with defective strollers, I'll hang up and listen If Trump hates blind people then why has he directed NASA to use robots to shove bread their throats?
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jojoinnit posted:Thanks but he was telling a story about dry shaving armpits without looking and therefore he's equivalent to a blind person I think? I thought I was in the reddit relationships thread on GBS where I'd gotten into a bit of a who is the true ableist dispute about a guy who didn't want to shave his GF's pubes Mea culpa
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bobjr posted:https://twitter.com/mediaite/status/1113470460207915009?s=21 It's great that Ryan was Speaker for years and yet had zero cultural footprint
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bobjr posted:https://twitter.com/mediaite/status/1113470460207915009?s=21 This is the correct way to use Paul Ryan's "advice"
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CuddleCryptid posted:It's great that Ryan was Speaker for years and yet had zero cultural footprint Remember when the media pushed this narrative that he was a 40-year-old whiz kid on policy? He's probably the first Republican Speaker in a while who didn't molest boys or cover up for someone who molested boys so that's cool
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jogging scrollers sounds like not only YT poo poo, but rich YT poo poo where sidewalks are smoth as hell and have a perfect grade . like christ walking not good enough for you? (I want to see the timeline where those kind of parents are in front like sled dogs. God workout identity fads are wierd as eff)
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Pinecone Sample posted:I thought I was in the reddit relationships thread on GBS where I'd gotten into a bit of a who is the true ableist dispute about a guy who didn't want to shave his GF's pubes I hope you won.
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CuddleCryptid posted:Not that it's surprising to anyone, but Tucker Carlson is literally pushing The Great Replacement now Now? This is what his entire show is about and has been about since he's been on Fox. https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1113466684101279744 Non-Murderer Eric Holder is right.
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PhazonLink posted:jogging scrollers sounds like not only YT poo poo, but rich YT poo poo where sidewalks are smoth as hell and have a perfect grade . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYRENWT8lz8
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CuddleCryptid posted:It's great that Ryan was Speaker for years and yet had zero cultural footprint 
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PhazonLink posted:jogging scrollers sounds like not only YT poo poo, but rich YT poo poo where sidewalks are smoth as hell and have a perfect grade . I don't have a kid but if I ever do I'm going to have to get a stroller like this just because my normal walking speed is extremely fast and might be past what a basic stroller can handle safely. It's not even exercise, I just do it naturally.
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CuddleCryptid posted:Not that it's surprising to anyone, but Tucker Carlson is literally pushing The Great Replacement now Republicans have been pushing that forever, openly.
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Yates posted:This is the correct way to use Paul Ryan's "advice" I figured the best thing would be to take his advice and do the exact opposite of it.
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