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HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

stomp clap


Frosty- posted:

Kawasaki didn't include a little wrench for adjusting rear preload in the stupid "tool kit" that came with the Z900RS. Are the diameters of these things fairly standardized? I was thinking I could just score something like that Motion Pro wrench on eBay for adjusting those rings without resorting to pounding on them with a screwdriver, which sounds like a bad idea and I have no idea why jerks on advrider think it's cute to suggest doing that instead of using a tool designed for the task.

I got the motion pro tool to replace the Yamaha spanner. I had to take an angle grinder to it to deepen the slot so it would get more purchase on the preload collar, because it seemed to be designed for a shock with a smaller diameter collar. It worked but wasn’t 100% perfect. OTOH, the design of the motion pro spanner is superior and takes way less torque to use and can be done in a smaller space.
Don’t know if that does anything to answer your question.

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PolishPandaBear
Apr 10, 2009
I found that one of those channel lock oil filter wrenches works ok in a pinch. It could definitely scratch up the finish though. I did this on my dead 40 year old shocks before replacing them with Progressives. I guess the other downside is that the oil wrench is much bigger than the spanner so it's not as easily stowed away in your tool set.

Frosty-
Jan 17, 2004

In war, you kill people in order to change their minds. Remember that; it's fuckin' important.
eBay sent me a $5 coupon code, so I grabbed one of the MP wrenches someone had up for $10. At that price it doesn't hurt enough to discourage me if the thing doesn't work out.

Coydog
Mar 5, 2007



Fallen Rib
I'm really confused about my charge system in my grom. When it's running, the battery voltage stays about 11.5v, even when I rev it up. My assumption is that the battery isn't being charged? When I looked at two wires going to my trailtech RR, they were very hot when running, and one connector looks like this with a lot of corrosion.


Also, the Trailtech RR is supposed to turn AC voltage into DC voltage on the bike. My LED headlight is flickering now, leading me to believe that whatever controls the AC signal isn't working. Is my RR bad? Something else?

Elviscat
Jan 1, 2008

Well don't you know I'm caught in a trap?

I'd replace that toasty looking connector and go from there, if that doesn't fix it RR is the next suspect.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Test your stator as that's where that connector goes. My guess is the RR is cooked and dumping everything to earth, the stator is getting super hot as a result and that's made that terminal go go brown.

Coydog
Mar 5, 2007



Fallen Rib
Thanks for the advise! I replaced the connector and then started following the wires from the RR. On one of the wires from the RR to the battery, there was fuse. I checked it and



I tossed a 15A fuse i had around in there and I have 13.3 charge voltage and a non flickering headlight back!!!

Elviscat
Jan 1, 2008

Well don't you know I'm caught in a trap?

Nice! Just keep an eye out, blown fuses and burnt connectors could be a sign of imminent failure

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

You really, really need to test your stator. If your stator is ok, start looking really suspiciously at your RR or wiring, especially lights or anything else with a big draw. Either something is drawing enough current to blow the fuse or the stator is poked; I have seen a poor soul pay a workshop to 'fix' this problem on his hyosung and they just bypassed the fuse and ran the RR direct to the battery positive. His bike caught on fire.

Coydog
Mar 5, 2007



Fallen Rib
How do I test my stator? I'll keep an eye on things, though everything seems to be working properly now. That said, it's an indication that maybe something is wrong.

To be quite honest, I suspect I may have blown the fuse myself doing #justPOthings trying to diagnose my bad battery last night.


Slavvy posted:

You really, really need to test your stator. If your stator is ok, start looking really suspiciously at your RR or wiring, especially lights or anything else with a big draw. Either something is drawing enough current to blow the fuse or the stator is poked; I have seen a poor soul pay a workshop to 'fix' this problem on his hyosung and they just bypassed the fuse and ran the RR direct to the battery positive. His bike caught on fire.

That's hilarious. What did they think they would accomplish by bypassing the fuse? What did they think a fuse was for?

prukinski
Dec 25, 2011

Sure why not
What's people's take on loose valve clearances, especially on low mileage engines?

I just picked up a replacement motor for my 2004 tuono with a claimed 2,600km on it. The engine wear seems consistent with those numbers (ie: there's barely any). Checking the clearances before fitting the engine, I found all the exhaust valves in spec, albeit at the loose end. A couple of the intakes are overly loose. 0.20mm where the spec is 0.12 - 0.17mm. Should I adjust these or leave em? (It's a pain on this engine, fwiw).

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

prukinski posted:

What's people's take on loose valve clearances, especially on low mileage engines?

I just picked up a replacement motor for my 2004 tuono with a claimed 2,600km on it. The engine wear seems consistent with those numbers (ie: there's barely any). Checking the clearances before fitting the engine, I found all the exhaust valves in spec, albeit at the loose end. A couple of the intakes are overly loose. 0.20mm where the spec is 0.12 - 0.17mm. Should I adjust these or leave em? (It's a pain on this engine, fwiw).

I'd leave them, those engines aren't particularly sensitive, it won't notice an extra . 3 on an intake especially when the factory specs are so loose.

prukinski
Dec 25, 2011

Sure why not

Slavvy posted:

I'd leave them, those engines aren't particularly sensitive, it won't notice an extra . 3 on an intake especially when the factory specs are so loose.

Exxxcellent. I hate pulling the camshafts on this engine.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

prukinski posted:

Exxxcellent. I hate pulling the camshafts on this engine.

Nonsense it's a piece of piss, just need to remove the frame beforehand!

Razzled
Feb 3, 2011

MY HARLEY IS COOL

prukinski posted:

What's people's take on loose valve clearances, especially on low mileage engines?

I just picked up a replacement motor for my 2004 tuono with a claimed 2,600km on it. The engine wear seems consistent with those numbers (ie: there's barely any). Checking the clearances before fitting the engine, I found all the exhaust valves in spec, albeit at the loose end. A couple of the intakes are overly loose. 0.20mm where the spec is 0.12 - 0.17mm. Should I adjust these or leave em? (It's a pain on this engine, fwiw).

how long did your old motor go for?

mine just rolled over 40k miles and i haven't checked the clearances in like 16k miles lol. at this point i think i'll just ride it til it dies

prukinski
Dec 25, 2011

Sure why not

Razzled posted:

how long did your old motor go for?

mine just rolled over 40k miles and i haven't checked the clearances in like 16k miles lol. at this point i think i'll just ride it til it dies

It went at about 40k, but I think that's pretty rare. It's probably not a total loss, either - just beyond my ability to fix in a timely manner (there's something screwy in the bottom end) and Australian mechanics are so expensive that it's cheaper to just buy a new engine and then strip/part out the old one at my leisure. FWIW, the valves on the old motor hardly moved in the 25k km that I had it.

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



Fun Shoe
I have heard it said, though I haven't been informed as to why, that a flappy valve is a happy valve

Elviscat
Jan 1, 2008

Well don't you know I'm caught in a trap?

I thought a clappy valve is a happy valve tho?

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Ffs

*South African accent*

A SLEPPY TEPPY EES A HEPPY CHEPPIE, JA?

Elviscat
Jan 1, 2008

Well don't you know I'm caught in a trap?

Slavvy, if you're unhappy you can slappy my chappie, ja?

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Phy posted:

I have heard it said, though I haven't been informed as to why, that a flappy valve is a happy valve

All other things being equal, it's better for a valve to be too loose than too tight because if the clearances are too large the engine will just run kind of noisily and poorly, while if the clearances are too small then when the components heat up and expand the valves will get stuck open and burn up.

AlexanderCA
Jul 21, 2010

by Cyrano4747
Ever since I've had this bike (it's my first) the front brake hasn't been quite right. It doesn't seem to build any pressure for the first 2/3 I squeeze the handle. It does brake past that but I can squeeze the handle all the way to the grip, it's exceedingly soft. I've tried everything I could think of and am at a loss what to try next.
So far I've:
Bled/refilled the brakes numerous times.
Replaced the main cylinder piston and seals.
Replaced the original old rubber lines with braided steel.
Replaced the quite rusted caliper pistons and the seals.
Both disc and pads are within spec.

Bike is a DR800s which i bought for "a Euro per CC" from afellow student so I'm hesitant to spend a lot replacing the entire caliper or master cylinder unless I'm sure that's where the problem actually is.

Coydog
Mar 5, 2007



Fallen Rib
There is a bubble in the line caliper somewhere still. Compress the brake overnight by strapping the lever to the bar, and this should help. Braided lines on my Dr was all I needed to give it really strong brakes.

Really jelly of your Dr Big . Post pics.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

AlexanderCA posted:

Ever since I've had this bike (it's my first) the front brake hasn't been quite right. It doesn't seem to build any pressure for the first 2/3 I squeeze the handle. It does brake past that but I can squeeze the handle all the way to the grip, it's exceedingly soft. I've tried everything I could think of and am at a loss what to try next.
So far I've:
Bled/refilled the brakes numerous times.
Replaced the main cylinder piston and seals.
Replaced the original old rubber lines with braided steel.
Replaced the quite rusted caliper pistons and the seals.
Both disc and pads are within spec.

Bike is a DR800s which i bought for "a Euro per CC" from afellow student so I'm hesitant to spend a lot replacing the entire caliper or master cylinder unless I'm sure that's where the problem actually is.

Try this:

Build up brake pressure and while holding the lever on, crack the banjo bolt at the master cylinder so that some fluid oozes out. Don't let go of the lever until you tighten the bolt back up. I have never failed to get a system completely bled by starting with this procedure, if air is trapped at the top of the MC it can make it impossible to bleed.

Other stuff to look at: caliper slide pins stuck/damaged, pad shims in the caliper missing/damaged. Ultimately it's a big old enduro with one tiny front brake, those sorts of bikes often do just have rubbish brakes.

mewse
May 2, 2006

Long shot but maybe lever needs replacing?

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

mewse posted:

Long shot but maybe lever needs replacing?

This too, there's loads of levers out there that *almost* fit properly.

AlexanderCA
Jul 21, 2010

by Cyrano4747

Coydog posted:

There is a bubble in the line caliper somewhere still. Compress the brake overnight by strapping the lever to the bar, and this should help. Braided lines on my Dr was all I needed to give it really strong brakes.

Really jelly of your Dr Big . Post pics.

This seems to have at least reduced the play in the lever to 1/3 instead of 2/3. I'll chalk up the rest to the mentioned inherently bad brakes.
Weird as I did this before and it didn't really help. But the combination with the new parts might've helped.

Here's the bike in it's decrepit glory.

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




:stonk: the DR BIG

Mister Speaker
May 8, 2007

WE WILL CONTROL
ALL THAT YOU SEE
AND HEAR
What is considered 'high' mileage for sportbikes? I'm seeing a lot of '06-'10 GSX-Rs on AutoTrader at suspiciously low prices. One has 'never been dropped' but is sitting at 35,000kms. Is that high?

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

Mister Speaker posted:

What is considered 'high' mileage for sportbikes? I'm seeing a lot of '06-'10 GSX-Rs on AutoTrader at suspiciously low prices. One has 'never been dropped' but is sitting at 35,000kms. Is that high?

No. The bikes are very well made and can easily go through 100k. But they tend to get owned by pretty ...umm, characterful owners. And I mean owned like pwned. '06 - '10 is starting to get very long in the tooth, no wonder the prices are low. If it starts easily, idles smoothly and revs sharply, there's probably not much wrong with it.

For a GSX-R older than 2010 with 35k, I would ask question like where was the bike stored while the owner was in prison?

Mister Speaker
May 8, 2007

WE WILL CONTROL
ALL THAT YOU SEE
AND HEAR

Ola posted:

For a GSX-R older than 2010 with 35k, I would ask question like where was the bike stored while the owner was in prison?

:discourse:

I remember reading stories of how bulletproof these bikes tend to be (something about one sunk in a lake, dredged up, airbox cleaned of mud and started just fine), so I figured as much. But, like you so eloquently put, they are the bike of choice of jabronis. Thanks for your response.

Jazzzzz
May 16, 2002

Mister Speaker posted:

:discourse:

I remember reading stories of how bulletproof these bikes tend to be (something about one sunk in a lake, dredged up, airbox cleaned of mud and started just fine), so I figured as much. But, like you so eloquently put, they are the bike of choice of jabronis. Thanks for your response.

Some Finnish dudes took a GSX-R 1000, turned it into a "snow bike" aka snow machine/snowmobile with a single ski up front, took it out on a lake to race a SkiDoo, tried shifting gears to go faster and submarined the whole thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSOf0wjOXek

AlexanderCA
Jul 21, 2010

by Cyrano4747

Idgi

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001





That’s what they’re called and you never see the 800cc versions.

Hekk
Oct 12, 2012

'smeper fi

I bought these bar end mirrors for my 2018 Yamaha XSR700. To get them to fit I had to buy small diameter bar end adapters and of course these are cheap aluminum instead of weighted like the previous bar ends. Now I get enough vibration on the throttle that hand fatigue is a problem at high speeds. Not a huge deal but I live in California and ride year round. Sometimes that means 30-40 miles on the freeway and it's really noticeable there.

Short of gluing lead weights or something to the inside of my handlebars, is there another solution that doesn't involve putting my stock mirrors back on and not using my fancy bar end ones?

tjones
May 13, 2005

Nostalgia4Ass posted:

I bought these bar end mirrors for my 2018 Yamaha XSR700. To get them to fit I had to buy small diameter bar end adapters and of course these are cheap aluminum instead of weighted like the previous bar ends. Now I get enough vibration on the throttle that hand fatigue is a problem at high speeds. Not a huge deal but I live in California and ride year round. Sometimes that means 30-40 miles on the freeway and it's really noticeable there.

Short of gluing lead weights or something to the inside of my handlebars, is there another solution that doesn't involve putting my stock mirrors back on and not using my fancy bar end ones?

Can you run sand and/or lead shot through the bar?

EDIT: I guess thats the same as "gluing lead weights" really, but its something people have done to help handlebar buzz.

tjones fucked around with this message at 00:48 on Apr 10, 2019

Hekk
Oct 12, 2012

'smeper fi

tjones posted:

Can you run sand and/or lead shot through the bar?

EDIT: I guess thats the same as "gluing lead weights" really, but its something people have done to help handlebar buzz.

I guess I can take a look at that and see if it's doable. Just fill all the dead space with sand or lead shot and that should help then?

Finger Prince
Jan 5, 2007


Jazzzzz posted:

Some Finnish dudes took a GSX-R 1000, turned it into a "snow bike" aka snow machine/snowmobile with a single ski up front, took it out on a lake to race a SkiDoo, tried shifting gears to go faster and submarined the whole thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSOf0wjOXek

My knowledge of Finland is limited to The Dudesons, Hydraulic Press Channel, some F1 drivers, and now these guys. What a magical place.

builds character
Jan 16, 2008

Keep at it.

Mister Speaker posted:

What is considered 'high' mileage for sportbikes? I'm seeing a lot of '06-'10 GSX-Rs on AutoTrader at suspiciously low prices. One has 'never been dropped' but is sitting at 35,000kms. Is that high?

Motorcycle engines generally do not last anywhere near as long as cars. They are also not commonly ridden as much as folks drive cars. Both of these create much lower expectations re: mileage and then folks get all leeeey for no good reason when a reliable bike has a reasonable number of miles.

tjones posted:

Can you run sand and/or lead shot through the bar?

EDIT: I guess thats the same as "gluing lead weights" really, but its something people have done to help handlebar buzz.


Yeah, just cut up some bike tire tubes and fill them with sand and tie the ends up and put those in your bars.

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tjones
May 13, 2005
What builds character said. Enclose it in tubing so it stays stationary and will help with removal in case you want it out later.

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