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STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Hey man, that's Tucker Carlson, the guy who gives the biggest voice to liberal voices in mainstream media. Show some respect.

edit:
White kitties, so we don't offend Tucker.
https://twitter.com/EmrgencyKittens/status/1113467487549628417

STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 03:05 on Apr 5, 2019

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syense
Oct 13, 2018

people who play large jenga at bars have nothing of interest in their lives.
on the one hand:
https://www.sunnyskyz.com/good-news/3267/70-Of-The-Materials-Used-To-Make-IKEA-Products-In-2018-Were-Either-Renewable-Or-Recycled
on the other hand:

A Conservative Political Marketing Firm helping to bring America back to its greatness https://www.facebook.com/AppSame

i am harry
Oct 14, 2003


SHES BEEN BUYING USED HER WHOLE loving LIFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna

i am harry posted:

SHES BEEN BUYING USED HER WHOLE loving LIFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

Even funnier, the tv stand was probably not even wood

pacerhimself
Dec 30, 2008

by Fluffdaddy
*Drives 3/4 ton gasoline truck*
*Gets 6 mpg*

"Yeah but AOC forgot to recycle a paper bag once"

It's bad faith bullshit, don't promote garbage.

TheOneAndOnlyT
Dec 18, 2005

Well well, mister fancy-pants, I hope you're wearing your matching sweater today, or you'll be cut down like the ugly tree you are.
Seems like AOC participates in a society. Nothing gets past this guy!

Dammerung
Oct 17, 2008

"Dang, that's hot."


pacerhimself posted:

*Drives 3/4 ton gasoline truck*
*Gets 6 mpg*

"Yeah but AOC forgot to recycle a paper bag once"

It's bad faith bullshit, don't promote garbage.

Not only are you absolutely correct, but I think the bag recycling critique literally happened a little while ago.

BigBallChunkyTime
Nov 25, 2011

Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.

Illegal Hen
https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/1113919962995884033?s=19

Zisky
May 6, 2003

PM me and I will show you my tits

Remind me why I'm supposed to believe WikiLeaks any more than I believe RT.

Tayter Swift
Nov 18, 2002

Pillbug
To be fair if I were a high level source in Ecuador I'd be ringing Julian's rear end every other week with the same poo poo and it would never stop being funny to me

Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

Earth-1145 is truly the best!
A world of singing, magic frogs,
high adventure, no shitposters

luxury handset posted:

no idea, i mean herman cain sucks for a lot of reasons but he's arguably qualified for the job as far as i know

My understanding, and someone who knows more about the Fed than I do should correct me, is that The Federal Reserve Board is the national group that actually reviews and sets policies, and the twelve Federal Reserve Banks (where Cain has his "Federal Reserve" experience, as a chairman of the Kansas City Federal Reserve Bank) carry out the services and regulations that the Fed in Washington DC set up.

This is a gross oversimplification, but it sounds kind of like arguing that because I was on a manager track at a Barnes and Noble store at the end of college, I have the experience and expertise to be a good CEO for a major retail chain. I'm certainly more qualified to run a bookstore chain than I would be to run a branch of the military, but it doesn't mean I'd be any good at it.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
So does Assange still have that cat or was it liberated from him?

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

luxury handset posted:

no idea, i mean herman cain sucks for a lot of reasons but he's arguably qualified for the job as far as i know

Cain, to his credit, is, as far as I know, a literal rocket scientist (:lol:), which although impressive, I don't see how that makes him qualified to handle federal monetary policy.

The Super-Id
Nov 9, 2005

"You know it's what you really want."


Grimey Drawer

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

So does Assange still have that cat or was it liberated from him?

The cat was already extradited for crimes against mouse-kind.

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf
https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/1113996970102853638

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010

Against All Tyrants

Ultra Carp

Mr Interweb posted:

Cain, to his credit, is, as far as I know, a literal rocket scientist (:lol:), which although impressive, I don't see how that makes him qualified to handle federal monetary policy.

The Detroit Lions have a rocket scientist as head coach and it's going great for us! :suicide:

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Edge & Christian posted:

My understanding, and someone who knows more about the Fed than I do should correct me, is that The Federal Reserve Board is the national group that actually reviews and sets policies, and the twelve Federal Reserve Banks (where Cain has his "Federal Reserve" experience, as a chairman of the Kansas City Federal Reserve Bank) carry out the services and regulations that the Fed in Washington DC set up.

This is a gross oversimplification, but it sounds kind of like arguing that because I was on a manager track at a Barnes and Noble store at the end of college, I have the experience and expertise to be a good CEO for a major retail chain. I'm certainly more qualified to run a bookstore chain than I would be to run a branch of the military, but it doesn't mean I'd be any good at it.

In that case the Reserve Bank is kind of like a minor leagues to the Big Show Federal Reserve Board. It seems like a perfectly fine path experience-wise.

Trump spews stupid every time he breathes, but this is remarkably not that dumb. When that happens you can be reasonably certain someone else made the suggestion and Trump came back 5 minutes later with his brilliant idea to put Herman Cain on the Federal Reserve.

Pembroke Fuse
Dec 29, 2008

Kerning Chameleon posted:

That's an indictment against capitalism and classism, not an argument in favor of institutionalized sports.

Just want to quickly remind you that East Germany ran a secret set of experiments on youth (as young as 12) and adult athletes for decades, injecting them with experimental compounds and steroids to secure its Olympic wins.

As for breaking bones, the USSR literally pushed a young gymnast to paralyze herself for life: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elena_Mukhina

Elena Mukhina posted:

...for our country, athletic successes and victories have always meant somewhat more than even simply the prestige of the nation. They embodied (and embody) the correctness of the political path we have chosen, the advantages of the system, and they are becoming a symbol of superiority. Hence the demand for victory – at any price. As for risk, well... We've always placed a high value on risk, and a human life was worth little in comparison with the prestige of the nation; we've been taught to believe this since childhood.[...]There are such concepts as the honor of the club, the honor of the team, the honor of the national squad, the honor of the flag. They are words behind which the person isn't perceived. I'm not condemning anyone or blaming anyone for what happened to me. Not Klimenko or especially the national team coach at that time, Shaniyazov. I feel sorry for Klimenko – he's a victim of the system, a member of the clan of grownups who are 'doing their job.' Shaniyazov I simply don't respect. And the others? I was injured because everyone around me was observing neutrality and keeping silent. After all, they saw that I wasn't ready to perform that element. But they kept quiet. Nobody stopped a person who, forgetting everything, was tearing forward – go, go, go!

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

So does Assange still have that cat or was it liberated from him?

cat was adopted out in november in part because assange was too lazy to take care of it

BigBallChunkyTime
Nov 25, 2011

Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.

Illegal Hen
https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1113936842804682753?s=19

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋



Pembroke Fuse posted:

As for breaking bones, the USSR literally pushed a young gymnast to paralyze herself for life: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elena_Mukhina

After years of casual study I feel like I'm still hazy on what parts of this attitude are "actual socialist thought" and which parts are "insane USSR nationalism that has nothing to do with socialism"

I'm guessing that the above is almost 100% the latter, since I can't imagine anyone in this thread would think highly of a system that denigrates the individual human life in favor of the glorification of the state and the flag and the ideology

But I can at least state with some surety that the vast bulk of America knows for sure that any step down the socialist path leads inexorably to Lysenkoism and gulags and the robotic parroting of sayings out of a little book

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

Edge & Christian posted:

My understanding, and someone who knows more about the Fed than I do should correct me, is that The Federal Reserve Board is the national group that actually reviews and sets policies, and the twelve Federal Reserve Banks (where Cain has his "Federal Reserve" experience, as a chairman of the Kansas City Federal Reserve Bank) carry out the services and regulations that the Fed in Washington DC set up.

This is a gross oversimplification, but it sounds kind of like arguing that because I was on a manager track at a Barnes and Noble store at the end of college, I have the experience and expertise to be a good CEO for a major retail chain. I'm certainly more qualified to run a bookstore chain than I would be to run a branch of the military, but it doesn't mean I'd be any good at it.

I imagine you'd probably be a fine CEO in all honesty, the elites have lied about the importance and stature of CEOs all along because the more people believe their bullshit the easier it is for them to justify their disgusting overcompensation. Assuming you're not some dipshit libertarian like Eddie Lampert anyway.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

So Cohens attempting to Arabian nights his way out of going to jail?

Won't work, but I mean nice try I guess.

Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

Earth-1145 is truly the best!
A world of singing, magic frogs,
high adventure, no shitposters

Krispy Wafer posted:

In that case the Reserve Bank is kind of like a minor leagues to the Big Show Federal Reserve Board. It seems like a perfectly fine path experience-wise.

Trump spews stupid every time he breathes, but this is remarkably not that dumb. When that happens you can be reasonably certain someone else made the suggestion and Trump came back 5 minutes later with his brilliant idea to put Herman Cain on the Federal Reserve.
My understanding to extend the bookstore metaphor a little is that the Federal Reserve Banks (which are responsible for carrying out policies set at the Federal level, not setting any policy) are generally stocked with local businesspeople. The board Herman Cain was on in the early 1990s currently has on its board the owner of a lumber company, the vice president of an irrigation company, a couple of insurance executives, and a couple of bankers.

By contrast, "the Fed" has traditionally had a board full of economists and heads of banks. The two most recent departures from the Fed were both people with advanced degrees in Economics and careers teaching and writing about economics and monetary theory and etc. All of Trump's other nominees (Goodfriend, Liang, Moore) have advanced degrees in Economics.

Herman Cain's degrees are in Mathematics and Computer Science, which makes him more qualified to be on the Fed than (say) Ben Carson is qualified to be in charge of HUD, but the fact that he was a Federal Reserve Bank executive 20+ years ago is kind of like saying that because I have an advanced degree in Literature and did a decent job with customer service and merchandising, making sure the cash registers lined up at the end of the day, and could properly adjust inventory when a truck shipment came in (and then stopped working in retail years and years ago) that I'm a solid pick to run Barnes and Noble now.

It's not Trump's craziest pick but that doesn't mean it's good. Unless again, I am missing something signficant. It's not even a "mayor to governor to president" progression of increasingly large responsibilities, it feels like dramatically different ones between "making sure banks have enough money and are following regulations" and "determining what those regulations are".

KillerQueen
Jul 13, 2010

dr_rat posted:

So Cohens attempting to Arabian nights his way out of going to jail?

Won't work, but I mean nice try I guess.

"I understand that you want me to testify, but have you heard my brother's testimony?"

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

You know, props to the hustle but I don't see how this ends any way but 'actually we can just take them and if we need help...well we'll know where to find you...'

PIZZA.BAT
Nov 12, 2016


:cheers:


Data Graham posted:

After years of casual study I feel like I'm still hazy on what parts of this attitude are "actual socialist thought" and which parts are "insane USSR nationalism that has nothing to do with socialism"

Entertaining this question out loud will reveal REALLY crazy people to you

pattywacker
Nov 8, 2005
Bernie just said on the Daily Show that he is making the last 10 years of his taxes public on April 15th, then told Trump to do the same

hopefully the house gets Trumps by then at least. (not likely)

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Edge & Christian posted:

My understanding to extend the bookstore metaphor a little is that the Federal Reserve Banks (which are responsible for carrying out policies set at the Federal level, not setting any policy) are generally stocked with local businesspeople. The board Herman Cain was on in the early 1990s currently has on its board the owner of a lumber company, the vice president of an irrigation company, a couple of insurance executives, and a couple of bankers.

By contrast, "the Fed" has traditionally had a board full of economists and heads of banks. The two most recent departures from the Fed were both people with advanced degrees in Economics and careers teaching and writing about economics and monetary theory and etc. All of Trump's other nominees (Goodfriend, Liang, Moore) have advanced degrees in Economics.

Herman Cain's degrees are in Mathematics and Computer Science, which makes him more qualified to be on the Fed than (say) Ben Carson is qualified to be in charge of HUD, but the fact that he was a Federal Reserve Bank executive 20+ years ago is kind of like saying that because I have an advanced degree in Literature and did a decent job with customer service and merchandising, making sure the cash registers lined up at the end of the day, and could properly adjust inventory when a truck shipment came in (and then stopped working in retail years and years ago) that I'm a solid pick to run Barnes and Noble now.

It's not Trump's craziest pick but that doesn't mean it's good. Unless again, I am missing something signficant. It's not even a "mayor to governor to president" progression of increasingly large responsibilities, it feels like dramatically different ones between "making sure banks have enough money and are following regulations" and "determining what those regulations are".

You make a good point. In a perfect world I'd rather the Fed board be filled exclusively with economists and academics. Businessmen and women may know a lot about economics, but their opinions are going to be clouded by their career experience. Trump's a great example of this. If he was on the Fed board he'd be ringing the lower interest rates bell all the time because he's in real estate and low rates are great for selling condos. It wouldn't occur to him to slow the economy down before it hits a trigger point and spirals into double digit inflation.

Cain is the best choice I can imagine Trump making. But my opinion is clouded by the fact I thought Trump was trying to replace Jerome Powell with Cain. So hearing he's only being nominated for a board seat was enough of a relief to make me cool with the choice. Like thinking you have cancer and finding out it's only crabs.

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
Thinks It's All Real

I mean... that's good and all, but nothing matters and nothing he produces will actually do anything

Pembroke Fuse
Dec 29, 2008

Data Graham posted:

After years of casual study I feel like I'm still hazy on what parts of this attitude are "actual socialist thought" and which parts are "insane USSR nationalism that has nothing to do with socialism"

I'm guessing that the above is almost 100% the latter, since I can't imagine anyone in this thread would think highly of a system that denigrates the individual human life in favor of the glorification of the state and the flag and the ideology

But I can at least state with some surety that the vast bulk of America knows for sure that any step down the socialist path leads inexorably to Lysenkoism and gulags and the robotic parroting of sayings out of a little book

The reason I mentioned East Germany is because the GDR was a fully-industrialized state (rather than a developing state like Tsarist Russia) that adopted Soviet-style socialism... and behaved in almost every respect in the same way that the USSR did. Ditto for say Czechoslovakia. Same goes for the PRC (although closer to Russia in terms of starting point than the GDR). There are enough parallels between how these states behaved that it goes a bit deeper that "Russian nationalism". There's also something to be said for the idea that if 70 years of Bolshevik rule didn't strip away Russian nationalism... no end of class warfare ever would.

I'm a MOP socialist... I legitimately believe that the people should own the means of production and that in the coming decade we have one final attempt to institute fundamental social and economic change in order to avert climate change-driven extinction. But I'm getting really, really tired of ahistorical approaches to socialism/communism. Socialist jingoism, socialist "nationalism" (i.e. state-worship/leader-worship), the socialist carceral state, socialist xenophobia, intolerance and oppression were all historical facts of life for millions. Until I see socialists actually integrate fundamental civil and political rights into their conception of social/economic rights... I guess I'm going to continue not just blaming "Russian nationalism" or "East German nationalism" for problems that seem to transcend both nation-states and political systems.

There are problems of individual agency, social management and state-building that legitimately transcend, or at the very least, deeply intermingle with class (accrual of power in hierarchies, gatekeeping, cognitive fallacies, tribalism and othering, desire for agency, the desire for internal consistency, etc). If we want to build something better, we should probably give them some thought.

SneezeOfTheDecade
Feb 6, 2011

gettin' covid all
over your posts

Wait a minute. I feel like I'm misunderstanding something here; the letter someone posted earlier from Cohen's lawyers implied that he needed time to figure out which documents were personal or fell under client confidentiality, which implies that the prosecutors haven't seen them yet, right? And if the prosecutors have seen them, in theory they'd have gone over them and wouldn't really need his help?

Am I misremembering or misunderstanding, or is that tweet misleading?

Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

Earth-1145 is truly the best!
A world of singing, magic frogs,
high adventure, no shitposters

Krispy Wafer posted:

Cain is the best choice I can imagine Trump making. But my opinion is clouded by the fact I thought Trump was trying to replace Jerome Powell with Cain. So hearing he's only being nominated for a board seat was enough of a relief to make me cool with the choice. Like thinking you have cancer and finding out it's only crabs.
Sure, rated on the curve of "Trump appointees" in the same way you'd rate "calls from your doctor that they say they need to discuss in person" Cain is not the worst case scenario. But I was confused by people calling Cain/crabs "good".

Rent-A-Cop
Oct 15, 2004

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

Edge & Christian posted:

Sure, rated on the curve of "Trump appointees" in the same way you'd rate "calls from your doctor that they say they need to discuss in person" Cain is not the worst case scenario. But I was confused by people calling Cain/crabs "good".
Crabs are basically a free pet I don't get what your problem is.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Besesoth posted:

Wait a minute. I feel like I'm misunderstanding something here; the letter someone posted earlier from Cohen's lawyers implied that he needed time to figure out which documents were personal or fell under client confidentiality, which implies that the prosecutors haven't seen them yet, right? And if the prosecutors have seen them, in theory they'd have gone over them and wouldn't really need his help?

Am I misremembering or misunderstanding, or is that tweet misleading?

I'm going to guess a lot of it is covered by attorney/client privilege. Illegal stuff isn't, which is why the SDNY could pursue charges related to tax fraud and illegal payoffs, but notcrimes.txt would be protected. That's why it's a terrible idea to have your fixer also be your lawyer since it pierces some of that attorney/client veil.

Mueller and company know exactly what Sean Hannity was up to, but if it's not illegal it won't ever see the light of day.

Rent-A-Cop posted:

Crabs are basically a free pet I don't get what your problem is.

One free cat is great. Hundreds of free cats are not great.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

Krispy Wafer posted:

Hundreds of free cats are not great.

Just gonna have to agree to disagree on that one.

1glitch0
Sep 4, 2018

I DON'T GIVE A CRAP WHAT SHE BELIEVES THE HARRY POTTER BOOKS CHANGED MY LIFE #HUFFLEPUFF

VitalSigns posted:

No, from what I remember the pilot was America lost the cold war in 1990 and went Stalinist.

The one where Hillary was President was a matriarchal world where women and men's roles were reversed and the joke was all the people in that world said the same things about Bill being a horrible harpy that were said about Hillary here.

Hmm. Hillary may have been president twice in Sliders. The one I was thinking of may not have been the pilot, but it was really early on and was just a throwaway joke. It could had her picture on a newspaper saying President Clinton does something or other. I remember the matriarchal world episode but don't remember the Clintons being a part of it. But my old brain could be forgetting.

If any show needs a reboot it's Sliders. This time without a network and showrunners determined to destroy it. I'm not sure there's ever been a show where the writer's were THAT mean spirited to its audience and characters for no apparent reason.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1114007282088595456?s=20

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

This is like the 12th “Julian Assange is being kicked out of the embassy, really, honestly, we mean it this time, totally, wait where are you going?” story I’ve seen since 2016. I’ll believe it when there’s actual news footage of Assange being carted out of there in handcuffs and his alabaster fivehead being “accidentally” slammed into the roof of the cop car as the bobbies push him into it.

Otherwise, yawn, next.

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Ague Proof
Jun 5, 2014

they told me
I was everything
Julian Assange to be evicted immediately, says increasingly calm man.

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