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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Do you run anything that can KO sheddy? All you have to do is toss a pebble at it, and it will die.
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Funky Valentine posted:I'm getting less a sense of depression and more a sense of Amaria being a sociopath. Do not insult anti-social personality disorder. You can live a perfectly functioning life without feeling empathy for others. (also if she had it, she would not need Titania so badly.)
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Apr 6, 2019 06:09
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Apr 6, 2019 06:33
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At this point I can't tell which character I hate more from this latest update. Honestly, it seems like everyone involved with that Pokemon School is awful in their own special way, from the walking garbage piles of Titania and Amaria, Julia the wacky tone-deaf bomber, and Fern's sister Domo Arigato Mister Roboto. An awful quartet of poorly-written characters that keep appearing in spite of everything.
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Apr 6, 2019 06:34
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 it's called reborn because it keeps clawing its way out of the grave like a zombie to horrify us again and again
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Apr 6, 2019 06:41
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Remember when we were in the renewed city and it was open and gave us stuff to do and actual worthwhile rewards and it almost resembled a fun Pokemon game you'd kind of want to play more of? That feels like so long ago.
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Apr 6, 2019 06:53
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Verant posted:At this point I can't tell which character I hate more from this latest update. Honestly, it seems like everyone involved with that Pokemon School is awful in their own special way, from the walking garbage piles of Titania and Amaria, Julia the wacky tone-deaf bomber, and Fern's sister Domo Arigato Mister Roboto. An awful quartet of poorly-written characters that keep appearing in spite of everything. I just realized we haven't gotten a major plot dump about robot girl yet, excepting her diary. I forget which character it was that went "You're still acting like a robot because I dumped you several years ago" (It was probably Titania) but we haven't gotten a steaming pile of exposition about that shitshow yet. I want to say that will probably be handled better than this, but I know that's just the last feeble ember of optimism.
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Apr 6, 2019 07:17
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WhitemageofDOOM posted:Do not insult anti-social personality disorder. There's probably a joke here about 'politicians', 'Something Awful posters', or 'people in general', but I lack the words to make it.
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Apr 6, 2019 07:18
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I think I've said it before, but I'll say it again. It's actually almost impressive just how many times you think you've seen how far Reborn can sink, how many times it can hit rock bottom, only to somehow dig itself in deeper. It's the neverending trainwreck.
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Bloodly posted:There's probably a joke here about 'politicians', 'Something Awful posters', or 'people in general', but I lack the words to make it.
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Apr 6, 2019 08:19
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DicktheCat posted:I know I'm exposing myself greatly here, but not everyone's experience with depression is so quiet. I have bipolar 2 and sometimes I have had to be restrained from hurting myself. It's very ugly and lots of violent sobbing is involved. It's rather dramatic. ZeButler posted:Have you ever tried to kill someone else during one of your depressive periods, though? As someone else with B2, certainly not with a magical drowning closet. The outbursts in manic depression/bipolar are violent, certainly, but they're also incredibly explosive and sudden. Back before I'd been diagnosed and treated, there were times in high school where I'd flown off the handle and attacked people, but it's with whatever was nearby to grab. Chairs, tables, trash cans, my backpack. Nothing was premeditated, and I certainly wasn't coherent enough to be monologuing Evanescence lyrics. In addition, while I wasn't in control of myself, I was fully aware of what I was doing after the fact. I hated it intensely, and while my experiences aren't universal, I'm pretty sure that the way Amaria was acting is not at all good representation of that. Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:What I do have to ask is I think between Farfetch'd and Aegislash I'm fine. KataraniSword fucked around with this message at 08:32 on Apr 6, 2019 |
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Apr 6, 2019 08:30
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Kitfox88 posted:When you describe it that way it could almost sound like some sorta greek tragedy bullshit but here it's just awful. I was thinking more along the lines of an Aesopic fable about how you should have empathy for the footsoldiers of the enemy side and oppose the war criminals on your own. I mean, it'd help a lot of Taka hadn't been an active component of a literal genocide cult, and if Titania had been an actual ally who helped you out and whose company was enjoyable, but if you excise all the individual Reborn elements it could work. Amaria descending from helpful to self-harm to you-harm could also have been an emotional gut punch if Amaria had been a character we ever cared about instead of a font of Evanescence lyrics and destructive personality disorders.
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Apr 6, 2019 08:47
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The thread hasn't been this outraged since the truth of the Corey suicide came out. Which I think neatly sums up the reason why Reborn is so much worse than we've seen before. We like lovely fangames. We like terrible fiction. We like garbage tier writing. We like ludicrous game mechanics. It's funny, and while we gleefully shred the content we usually stay away from the creator. Reborn could have been tolerable, albeit still the worst example we've seen. But you leave real life poo poo out of it. People thought Amethyst was a bad writer from the start but nobody started hating her until we learned that she was exploiting the history of her dead 'friend'. Every time some real-life tragedy has been dragged into the spotlight and forced to perform, the thread has grown angrier. And now we have explicit butchering of genuine illness that a lot of us have experienced, and if this had happened earlier there would be room for some benefit of the doubt because it's a common misunderstanding, but we hate everyone involved in this too much to make excuses for them any more, particularly with the shades of domestic abuse. And now all we can find to say is a string of obscenities. If your friends are struggling with terminal illness, with depression and suicidal impulses, with other mental health issues, with family bigotry and rejection, with abusive relationships, you don't exploit that even years after the fact. Reborn is actively making money from people's misery.
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Apr 6, 2019 10:13
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Verant posted:At this point I can't tell which character I hate more from this latest update. Honestly, it seems like everyone involved with that Pokemon School is awful in their own special way, from the walking garbage piles of Titania and Amaria, Julia the wacky tone-deaf bomber, and Fern's sister Domo Arigato Mister Roboto. An awful quartet of poorly-written characters that keep appearing in spite of everything. Robotsister is the least offensive, honestly. Or maybe I am just taking her side because it means not having to agree with anything Fern blabs about. .. Now though, I am starting to miss Fern.
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Apr 6, 2019 12:50
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Azza Bamboo posted:Wives have the final say in real estate purchases and that's why my murder room is built with women in mind. Azz Bamboo used Saw I-Beam It's super effective!
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Black Robe posted:The thread hasn't been this outraged since the truth of the Corey suicide came out. This is exactly it and you put it into words far better than my outraged self could. Like, compare with Insurgence. It's Reborn lite and commits several of the same sins Reborn does, with a creator that actually sees Reborn as an example to follow (I seriously want to believe he has no idea about its horrible background). But the creator (Jan, I believe) has gotten none of the hatred Amethyst did and does, because he doesn't touch any sensitive topic with such a gigantic lack of respect and because it really feels like he wanted his game to be a good one instead of the horrible soulless mess that is Reborn. We can post all day about just how many things Reborn fails at but its absolutely Amethyst's attitude towards people that, we're led to believe, were or are her friends that brings in the colourful thread titles we've had, like the current one.
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Apr 6, 2019 15:18
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Blaze Dragon posted:This is exactly it and you put it into words far better than my outraged self could. Are you sure you're not talking about Rejuvenation? I know Jan was the creator for that one and he was specifically inspired by Reborn
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Apr 6, 2019 15:28
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Yeah, I was gonna say... I'm not gonna defend Insurgence as high art or even as being particularly good. But I'm like 99% certain it has nothing to do with Reborn.
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Apr 6, 2019 15:37
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BleiddWhitefalcon posted:Are you sure you're not talking about Rejuvenation? I know Jan was the creator for that one and he was specifically inspired by Reborn I did mean Rejuvenation, whoops. All these fangames are getting confusing. Insurgence actually knows how to have fun even if it has its issues so it shouldn't be lumped with the Reborns.
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Apr 6, 2019 15:39
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Blaze Dragon posted:I did mean Rejuvenation, whoops. All these fangames are getting confusing. there's a reason pokemon has such simple version names with distinct naming schemes each generation, they know full well trying to be flowery with each would make each version indistinguishable
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Apr 6, 2019 16:59
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SERIOUSLY. I ACTUALLY WISH EITHER TERRA OR FERN COMES BACK INTO THE STORY. Not since Homestuck have I suffered just late game aggravation.
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Apr 6, 2019 18:06
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Way back in the day when people were polling who the worst character in Reborn was, I chose Amaria. This specific chain of events is why. GregorCanteberry posted:SERIOUSLY. I ACTUALLY WISH EITHER TERRA OR FERN COMES BACK INTO THE STORY. The fact that this would actually make the current plot less edgy is a testament to just how utterly hosed things have gotten.
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Apr 6, 2019 19:24
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GregorCanteberry posted:SERIOUSLY. I ACTUALLY WISH EITHER TERRA OR FERN COMES BACK INTO THE STORY. You are right and I hate Reborn for that.
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Mersenne posted:Way back in the day when people were polling who the worst character in Reborn was, I chose Amaria. ...I'm beginning to think we probably need a repoll once the LP has concluded.
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KataraniSword posted:As someone else with B2, certainly not with a magical drowning closet. The outbursts in manic depression/bipolar are violent, certainly, but they're also incredibly explosive and sudden. Back before I'd been diagnosed and treated, there were times in high school where I'd flown off the handle and attacked people, but it's with whatever was nearby to grab. Chairs, tables, trash cans, my backpack. Nothing was premeditated, and I certainly wasn't coherent enough to be monologuing Evanescence lyrics. In addition, while I wasn't in control of myself, I was fully aware of what I was doing after the fact. I hated it intensely, and while my experiences aren't universal, I'm pretty sure that the way Amaria was acting is not at all good representation of that. Hey, B2 buddy.   Yeah, the thing with bipolar 2 episodes is that it's rough and it's fast. You don't, say, make up ways to hurt people in your spare time and go through with them. In my experience, I either run away to avoid saying things I can't take back or if it's real bad, turn it on myself. I'm lucky to have people that love me enough to get me through it, techniques that keep me from getting there and medicine to prevent the whole thing. A good writer could show this. Amethyst is not a good writer. My main point was that not all depression is quiet. As to the Shedinja question, is weaponized self-loathing super effective?
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Blaze Dragon posted:Like, compare with Insurgence. It's Reborn lite and commits several of the same sins Reborn does, with a creator that actually sees Reborn as an example to follow (I seriously want to believe he has no idea about its horrible background). But the creator (Jan, I believe) has gotten none of the hatred Amethyst did and does, because he doesn't touch any sensitive topic with such a gigantic lack of respect and because it really feels like he wanted his game to be a good one instead of the horrible soulless mess that is Reborn. Aren't we really the only ones that know about Reborn's background, aside from the people directly involved with it? None of the background details we know really feel like they were common knowledge until Onmi's interview. It's most likely that most people playing Reborn have no clue about the IRL stuff.
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Also Insurgence has nothing to do with Reborn. That's Rejuvenation. Insurgence is the one that's sorta edgy - but lets you turn its edginess off if you want - and actually has the player accomplish things. Repeatedly!
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GregorCanteberry posted:SERIOUSLY. I ACTUALLY WISH EITHER TERRA OR FERN COMES BACK INTO THE STORY. OH MAN ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HOMESTUCK NOW? Because I agree with you, the entire dancestor "arc" (Using the term more loosely than... something that's really goddamn loose, the only metaphor I could think of there was really inappropriate) could have been dropped completely with no loss of story coherency. The one dancestor that actually DID anything, Aranea, could have just been another loving Vriska timeclone. I was more annoyed at late-series Homestuck than I was at late-series Hunter X Hunter, which committed basically the same sin, the entire Chimera Ant arc accomplished nothing in terms of character development. I just do not like to feel like my time has been wasted. Which, to bring it back to Reborn, is why I'm not playing the game myself. I would have put the game down in disgust sometime around the volcanic island. If not before, it's just that's the earliest point I can recall where your actions are explicitly invalidated. DicktheCat posted:As to the Shedinja question, is weaponized self-loathing super effective? I think that would fall under Curse, so if you're a Ghost-type, yes. ...that statement has some connotations I didn't consider when writing it. 
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DicktheCat posted:As to the Shedinja question, is weaponized self-loathing super effective? Dark Pulse is described as a horrible aura of dark thoughts, so, yes.
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Dragonatrix posted:Also Insurgence has nothing to do with Reborn. That's Rejuvenation. Too many fangames have the same naming scheme. But yeah, Insurgence is a better fangame because at least the writing includes bathos like the real games. Reborn might be a little more tolerable if it didn't take itself so seriously (or try for wacky randumb "humor" like with that Julia stuff).
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Apr 6, 2019 20:30
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As bad as it has gotten I am in no way pining for the return or Terra or Fern. I will take 'concentrated dose of emo bummerzone' over these two trying to win Gold Medals in Lolrandom or pointless douchebaggery respectively.
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Materant posted:...I'm beginning to think we probably need a repoll once the LP has concluded. I didn't like the poll when I made it because just so much happens in this drat game.
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Apr 6, 2019 21:17
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Hmmm Serra is okay if you don't catch her in a funk about her modelling career.
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Apr 6, 2019 21:33
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Is there any word on Episode 19 Is it possible that might come out just before episode 18 finishes up Or are we legit almost done with this garbage
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Apr 6, 2019 21:35
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the Orb of Zot posted:Is there any word on Episode 19 I think 18 came out only a few months ago so it'll probably be a while before it finishes unless she just barrels through (or splits it into more episodes!). I will guess that OFS finishes 18 well before 19 is put out, but it's okay because this thread will be eternal quote:The game's currently unfinished so when I run out of content I guess I run out of LP. If the game updates I guess I have more LP, continuing in this thread if it's not in archives or a sequel thread if it is. I guess.
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the Orb of Zot posted:Is there any word on Episode 19 At the rate of release Episode 19 isn't due anytime soon. Someone posted the release dates earlier in the thread and it's taken more and more time between releases, with 19 releasing IIRC a full year or more after 18 also being a year after 17. That's how this rubbish has been in production since the time period of B/W, and why Mega Evolutions and Z-Moves are tacked on so late.
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I'll just lp some other garbage no one wants in the mean time. Maybe pokemon red. Or ff5 when the fiesta comes.
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BlackPersona posted:Do we have any confirmation on how many episodes Reborn is expected to have? At least 19 too many.
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BlackPersona posted:Do we have any confirmation on how many episodes Reborn is expected to have? I think she's said that 19 is supposed to be the end. It'll cover the rest of the main game and the post game. I think someone here said she just wants to be done with the game I have doubts
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