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Its about to get a whole lot worse. Miller spoke with The Daily Caller about what is next https://dailycaller.com/2019/04/02/stephen-miller-crackdown-illegal-immigration/ quote:Noting that there are approximately 1 million illegal aliens in the United States with final removal orders that still remain at large — in some cases for several years — Miller gave one example of the type of executive action the administration can take. The presidential adviser noted that existing law has a statute that allows for a “significant financial penalty” for every single day that an alien resides in the country after being ordered removed.
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A GIANT PARSNIP posted:Easy solution - price caps plus government funded awards for the development of drugs deemed important. Given the complete market failure in pharmaceuticals (what do you get when you combine collusion, profit chasing over patients well-being, and laws written specifically to line their pockets?), I've felt that the government needs to get into the drug manufacturing business. Basically, a semi-private organization like the post office that can be allowed to run at basically marginal prices that just makes out of patent medications. You can spread out the manufacturing across the country so that every congressional district gets to wet their beak like current defense contracting except that this would provide things that actually benefit people. It's not a perfect idea, but it would prevent things like everyone except one guy jumping out of the market for a commonly prescribed medication who then increases the price ten to twenty times, or the extreme shortages that result when something disrupts one facility.
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A GIANT PARSNIP posted:Easy solution - price caps plus government funded awards for the development of drugs deemed important. Height caps for pharma executives are what I am thinking given the current stat of 1 out of 4 people with diabetes skipping insulin doses due to cost. 
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Apr 8, 2019 14:51
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Its about to get a whole lot worse. Miller spoke with The Daily Caller about what is next Enforceable, this is not. Hmm.
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Apr 8, 2019 14:54
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Random Stranger posted:Given the complete market failure in pharmaceuticals (what do you get when you combine collusion, profit chasing over patients well-being, and laws written specifically to line their pockets?), I've felt that the government needs to get into the drug manufacturing business. Basically, a semi-private organization like the post office that can be allowed to run at basically marginal prices that just makes out of patent medications. You can spread out the manufacturing across the country so that every congressional district gets to wet their beak like current defense contracting except that this would provide things that actually benefit people. It's not a perfect idea, but it would prevent things like everyone except one guy jumping out of the market for a commonly prescribed medication who then increases the price ten to twenty times, or the extreme shortages that result when something disrupts one facility. This is exactly the sort of poo poo I’m talking about here.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Its about to get a whole lot worse. Miller spoke with The Daily Caller about what is next This is to my knowledge the first time Miller's commented on drat near anything to the press. He must be getting awfully bold.
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friendbot2000 posted:https://twitter.com/SarahTaber_bww/status/1114942142445699072 This thread is well worth everyone's time
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Its about to get a whole lot worse. Miller spoke with The Daily Caller about what is next "Welfare tourism." Stick your head up your rear end so far it never comes out, Stephen. We're mostly working with refugees here.
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Apr 8, 2019 14:59
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There needs to be a coordinated effort to bake political cartoons and commentary about Stephen Miller bossing Trump around and being the real president
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Apr 8, 2019 15:01
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Solkanar512 posted:This is exactly the sort of poo poo I’m talking about here. I'd love to have more reliable production for common medications. ARB's have been hosed for the better part of a year now and trying to source a replacement drug for a patient when their losartan/valsartan/irbesartan disappears for a time of "who knows, backordered", then the replacement becomes backordered, then the replacement for THAT becomes backordered, creating a stupid time wasting and health eroding loop between us, the doctor's office and manufacturers is all sorts of frustrating.
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Tayter Swift posted:This is to my knowledge the first time Miller's commented on drat near anything to the press. He must be getting awfully bold. This isn’t true? He’s been quoted a lot in articles, and he’s been on some of the big networks making a full of himself. Edit well I guess it’s true to your knowledge but no, he pops out of is hidey hole every few months to be racist as poo poo. I think he avoids the limelight though so trump doesn’t get suspicious of thunder stealing, and also he’s faced public backlash once or twice for being a genocidal racist. skylined! fucked around with this message at 15:10 on Apr 8, 2019 |
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We just need to do whatever’s possible to get Trump to promote Miller out of his nebulous advisory role and into an official Administrative position. That begins the ticking clock to him inevitably getting fired.
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kinda funny and sad how there were articles early on about how trump was actually good at golf quoting pros that had played with him (and people kind of accepted it because it makes sense it plays an ungodly amount of gold) and now it turns out he's terrible and cheats constantly.
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https://twitter.com/GeoffRBennett/status/1115252726164803589 So has there ever been a legal case where a President’s own Executive Order is used as supporting evidence to argue against the President’s actions?
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gently caress it, impeach him over this.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:https://twitter.com/GeoffRBennett/status/1115252726164803589 There's about to be.
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Tayter Swift posted:This is to my knowledge the first time Miller's commented on drat near anything to the press. He must be getting awfully bold. CNN via WaPo https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati.../?noredirect=on FOX: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...ern_border.html FtN via Atlantic: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/12/stephen-miller-appeared-scripted-and-angry-sunday/578293/
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Apr 8, 2019 15:18
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Reminder that the Family Separation was one of the few things that actually pushed Trumps approval ratings back down into the 30s and was so deeply unpopular an issue that it polled under the seemingly rock hard 35% support that Trump seems to have locked in no matter what goes wrong. It was like 25% approval for it IIRC and it caused the rest of the GOP to run away screaming.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Reminder that the Family Separation was one of the few things that actually pushed Trumps approval ratings back down into the 30s and was so deeply unpopular an issue that it polled under the seemingly rock hard 35% support that Trump seems to have locked in no matter what goes wrong. It was like 20% approval for it IIRC. We should have foreseen him doing this, IMO.
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Stephen Miller is a turd who sucks itself.  I'm saying Miller is a turd sucker.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Reminder that the Family Separation was one of the few things that actually pushed Trumps approval ratings back down into the 30s and was so deeply unpopular an issue that it polled under the seemingly rock hard 35% support that Trump seems to have locked in no matter what goes wrong. It was like 25% approval for it IIRC and it caused the rest of the GOP to run away screaming. i mean we're talking about a guy who wants to make 2020 about healthcare.
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Groovelord Neato posted:i mean we're talking about a guy who wants to make 2020 about healthcare. We’re talking about a guy who thinks that the Republicans won the midterms.
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TheScott2K posted:This thread is well worth everyone's time Sarah Taber is a fantastic expert in the field of farm-science. I am glad you appreciate her too! 
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skylined! posted:This isn’t true? He’s been quoted a lot in articles, and he’s been on some of the big networks making a full of himself. Guess I've just memory holed him then. Sorry about that.
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mdemone posted:gently caress it, impeach him over this. We should be doing more than that, we should be breaking down those loving camp walls. This administration is so desperate to go all final solution and waiting to see if our government can actually prevent such a thing is agonizing.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Reminder that the Family Separation was one of the few things that actually pushed Trumps approval ratings back down into the 30s and was so deeply unpopular an issue that it polled under the seemingly rock hard 35% support that Trump seems to have locked in no matter what goes wrong. It was like 25% approval for it IIRC and it caused the rest of the GOP to run away screaming. Really? Cause all I remember was Republicans swearing up and down that this was an Obama-era policy and they were just continuing it and hey, I'm just here asking questions.
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Groovelord Neato posted:kinda funny and sad how there were articles early on about how trump was actually good at golf quoting pros that had played with him (and people kind of accepted it because it makes sense it plays an ungodly amount of gold) and now it turns out he's terrible and cheats constantly. *which is how you call someone like that a failure in all aspects, to their face, and have them miss the point entirely
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Tayter Swift posted:Guess I've just memory holed him then. Sorry about that. Happens to the best of us. Miller is a brash noisy racist rear end in a top hat who just gets drowned out by Trump because the Orange Goblin is somehow even more so, and well, in charge of the country. The vessel is shittier than the chemist. KickerOfMice fucked around with this message at 15:36 on Apr 8, 2019 |
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Tayter Swift posted:Guess I've just memory holed him then. Sorry about that. I don’t think anyone would blame you for that.
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Random Stranger posted:Given the complete market failure in pharmaceuticals (what do you get when you combine collusion, profit chasing over patients well-being, and laws written specifically to line their pockets?), I've felt that the government needs to get into the drug manufacturing business. Basically, a semi-private organization like the post office that can be allowed to run at basically marginal prices that just makes out of patent medications. You can spread out the manufacturing across the country so that every congressional district gets to wet their beak like current defense contracting except that this would provide things that actually benefit people. It's not a perfect idea, but it would prevent things like everyone except one guy jumping out of the market for a commonly prescribed medication who then increases the price ten to twenty times, or the extreme shortages that result when something disrupts one facility. The problem with this is that although drug patents run out, the company can patent the manufacturing technique. As drugs get more complicated to synthesize, e.g. biologics and the patents on bacteria/chinese hamster ovary cell DNA, the patents are a higher barrier to entry. The government would end up paying out the rear end for patent licenses to patent troll firms and/or get sued for infringement. So, we have to nationalize the manufacturing patents too. Which is probably against dozens of trade treaties. It would be amazingly beneficial to the problems we have with drug supply in hospitals. Backorders are affecting patient care constantly. Second and third line agents are used first line because manufacturer A went out of business, or started a new line for more profit. Or skeezy pharmacies are manufacturing them en masse and exposing more patients to higher risk. The entire New England Compounding Center tragedy could have been avoided with a proper distribution chain. (https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2...IzOI/story.html)
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It’s actually a real testament to the effectiveness of the GOP anti government death cult agenda that we dont have not just single payer, but a nationalized pharmaceutical manufacturing network. It’s such a fundamental component to national security by way of a healthy citizenry that it should be a no brainer public works investment.
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Pigbuster posted:We should be doing more than that, we should be breaking down those loving camp walls. This administration is so desperate to go all final solution and waiting to see if our government can actually prevent such a thing is agonizing. Nobody in power is personally impacted at all, so they don't care. Anyone with a modicum of power who does care is currently busy fending off attacks from Democratic leadership. And also spoiler alert I highly doubt there will be any significant movement to stop this once the ethnic cleansing begins in earnest, and it seems like Trump and Miller are currently out of their minds hungry for ethnic cleansing.
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ummel posted:The problem with this is that although drug patents run out, the company can patent the manufacturing technique. As drugs get more complicated to synthesize, e.g. biologics and the patents on bacteria/chinese hamster ovary cell DNA, the patents are a higher barrier to entry. The government would end up paying out the rear end for patent licenses to patent troll firms and/or get sued for infringement. There are a lot of drugs where there's no concern for that. On top of that, patents are going to run out at the same time; if you patent pikachu as a medication for high blood pressure and the method of manufacturing it, the patents expire at the same time. And further, patent law says explicitly that the Federal government can go "lol, we're just going to use this" so you can't sue them for patent infringement. Doing this with whatever the hot new drug is would be a bad idea for lots of reasons, but there's no concern there.
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Casey Finnigan posted:Nobody in power is personally impacted at all, so they don't care. Anyone with a modicum of power who does care is currently busy fending off attacks from Democratic leadership.
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Pinecone Sample posted:There's always a tweet I didn’t check the date on this at first and was like holy poo poo wow, ya got me.
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Fritz Coldcockin posted:Really? Cause all I remember was Republicans swearing up and down that this was an Obama-era policy and they were just continuing it and hey, I'm just here asking questions. As I recall polling was loving brutal for it since it turns out throwing kids in cages and orphaning them is kind of a universal outrage to all but the worst of the worst. The "Obama started it" stuff was basically an attempt to spin the blame off them because people hating it so much and found it indefensible.
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https://twitter.com/ThomasInPrint/status/1115267020105195521 https://twitter.com/mdubowitz/status/1115267038707179522
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marshmonkey posted:https://twitter.com/ThomasInPrint/status/1115267020105195521 Trump the hawk lol, bringing back neocon horseshit like it’s 2005.
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