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Apr 10, 2019 23:27
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PurpleXVI posted:It's also kind of fascinating watching how other people's tactics vary from what you do yourself, and you start wondering if you're the one doing something dumb, or whether it's just a difference based on your nation/preferences. So the way dominion spread is calculated has totally changed. Buuuuut i forget how, sorry!  Honestly tho if you have a decent domscore (6 or so?) and a couple temples you should be fine unless someone is actively trying to domkill you with like mass blood sacrifice. What was your situation?
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Apr 11, 2019 00:12
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Kill the bloodsaccers first. Well, maybe not first. But early.
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Apr 11, 2019 00:15
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FilthIncarnate posted:So the way dominion spread is calculated has totally changed. It was probably a few patches back, so possibly prior to whatever changes they made to dominion spread, because it was last year or so. But my nation was sandwiched between three others, I had a base Dominion score of 9 or 10, and even building temples in all of my(admittedly long and narrow with no territories that didn't border an enemy territory) territories, I was having trouble keeping my dominion solid.
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Apr 11, 2019 01:01
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Lord Koth posted:Yeah, they're an exclusively MA Ermor summon that they get 3 different spells to summon various numbers of them (1, 5, or 14). And as could be expected from being summonable in numbers, they're a troop rather than a commander. that's pretty fuckin sick not gonna lie Ramc posted:in many fields I have n e u t r a l s c a l e s.  Normal Adult Human posted:the real benefit of an imprisoned pretender is you cant loving lose it if you dont have it How are u posted:Hello my name is how are u and I am an addict. My vice is imprisoned pretenders.  if your god's awake that means bad stuff can happen to it, its a shame i can't keep my god asleep forever for mongo pointsEDIT: are there any new immobile chassis or is it still whispy woods, pretty water, or  blood mostly
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Apr 11, 2019 02:35
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There's a rock now.
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Apr 11, 2019 02:50
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PurpleXVI posted:It was probably a few patches back, so possibly prior to whatever changes they made to dominion spread, because it was last year or so. But my nation was sandwiched between three others, I had a base Dominion score of 9 or 10, and even building temples in all of my(admittedly long and narrow with no territories that didn't border an enemy territory) territories, I was having trouble keeping my dominion solid. This sounds... extremely odd. There was indeed a patch that made passive domkill much harder going forward, but it was a change made in Dom 4 (and presumably carried over to 5) and was definitely longer ago than last year. Did you possibly have a bloodsac nation on your border?
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Apr 11, 2019 03:04
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i think agartha had a rock before. also that cool pillar
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Apr 11, 2019 03:04
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How easy is Domkilling nowadays? I briefly experimented in Dom4 with a strategy of an awake Dom10 Hooded Messenger on Man (so I have stealth priests, too). Hooded Messenger is a 10 map movement flying, stealthy unit that you can park directly on an enemy capital. Is there a max on Dominion after a game starts? Since it goes up by 1 every four temoples? Infinite friar works choking the map with my stealth priests and bombing areas with my (essentially) teleporting Stealth God seems somewhat more fun to early wipe an enemy. The one time I managed to try this in a multiplayer game, the capital I correctly found on turn 1 was, like, the one guy with good enough Dom score to fend it off.
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Apr 11, 2019 03:45
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Normal Adult Human posted:the real benefit of an imprisoned pretender is you cant loving lose it if you dont have it And Noah said, "no, go back into the loving closet you donkey, I'll let everyone see you once we start winning, or once you stop making bread that even the pigeons won't loving eat." And later he was crucified, and Noah was all, "WHAT DID I SAY, YOU loving DONKEY."
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Apr 11, 2019 03:47
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Lord Koth posted:This sounds... extremely odd. There was indeed a patch that made passive domkill much harder going forward, but it was a change made in Dom 4 (and presumably carried over to 5) and was definitely longer ago than last year. Did you possibly have a bloodsac nation on your border? Could be, it's a long time. Either way, I'm a temple addict. Can't pry those away from me. Gotta have all the temples.
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Apr 11, 2019 10:33
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Turn 18 We have some stuff going on here. A few fights but NO SITES sigh come on.  Conjuration 3 lets us summon lesser water elementals! Some other stuff but elementals is the draw for an early conjuration 3. The fight is pretty ok-  Not even worth screenshotting. I ping the throne. It doesnt look scary, just two w3 mages. One has some swag:   This isn't super intimidating. I will probably move my eastern army westward into this. Events are...  ...ignorable. My dom is pretty secure.  I GOT THE SHIP WRECKERS HAHAHA!!  Overview! Nazca is cool with my land holding so I move a guy up there to make infrastructure. I will expand west in the north of the sea too.  Shipwreckers will immediately backstab Phaecia. Nothing personnel, kid I check and that site in the province is +2 earth gems. No idea why I can see it but I can.   I will converge here, then maybe hit that island to the west then go YET FARTHER west to the throne.  More mercs are available! I bid.  I am moving dudes around going to patrol on that one event from months back. And of course I am expanding still. expanding f o r e v e r
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Apr 11, 2019 11:25
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I am kind of amazed just how bad your luck is in regard to finding sites.
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Apr 11, 2019 12:33
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Phaecia I've been spending a ton of gold building infrastructure and recruiting mages, so the heady year 1 days of having tons of gold to spend on mercs are over. Seeing Pelagia steal the Ship Wreckers from me -and- that they're now on my border gives me a ~sinking~ feeling ho ho ho.
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Apr 11, 2019 13:08
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ship wreckers are probably the best merc company in the entire game and they're worth like 400 gold
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Apr 11, 2019 13:25
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what makes the ship wreckers so good compared to other mercs?
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Apr 11, 2019 13:48
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I'm actually impressed (and maybe a little disappointed) that Phaecia didn't just go "welp I don't have enough money left to put in a controlling bid for the Ship Wreckers again, better suicide them into someone else's powerful force so that whoever gets them next is paying out the rear end for like three guys."
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Apr 11, 2019 13:48
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:I'm actually impressed (and maybe a little disappointed) that Phaecia didn't just go "welp I don't have enough money left to put in a controlling bid for the Ship Wreckers again, better suicide them into someone else's powerful force so that whoever gets them next is paying out the rear end for like three guys." 3 ship wreckers are still ok.
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Apr 11, 2019 14:11
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lol if you don't spite murder your mercs at the end of their first contract so that nobody else can use them ever
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Apr 11, 2019 14:57
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Or put the collar on mage hires that gives them enfeebled mind.
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Apr 11, 2019 15:04
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Nah, you give them a bane venom charm.
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Apr 11, 2019 15:29
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Broken Box posted:what makes the ship wreckers so good compared to other mercs? An "average" merc company is usually going to be something like 30 human dudes with very average equipment. The Ship Wreckers are 20 Atlantean shamblers with above average equipment. So the biggest thing is that they're amphibious and can let a land nation break into the water (probably useless if you're up against a nation like Ramc, but if you have a lake nearby the wreckers will get you free provinces), but they also punch way above their weight in terms of generic fighting ability. Shamblers suffer a little bit in attacks per square because they're larger than man sized but they also have like twice the HP and damage of regular humans and good protection values too.
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Apr 11, 2019 15:34
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the min pay for the ship wreckers is 150. 20 war shamblers would cost 500 gold to recruit. Oh yeah, they also all have titan's grip so they're using 2 handed weapons and shields.
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Apr 11, 2019 15:56
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more like poo poo wreckers
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Apr 11, 2019 18:29
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I have no idea what the gently caress is going on here, but I'm enjoying what I piece together narrative-wise. Murder the Phaecian heretics!
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Apr 11, 2019 18:32
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Cannon_Fodder posted:I have no idea what the gently caress is going on here, but I'm enjoying what I piece together narrative-wise. Extremely rude. How are u fucked around with this message at 00:06 on Apr 12, 2019 |
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Apr 11, 2019 19:37
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Apr 12, 2019 00:06
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Apr 12, 2019 01:03
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This is pretty traditional Ramc diplomacy from what I remember. "I'm taking these provinces and you can't stop me, get over it".
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Apr 12, 2019 03:13
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Voyager I posted:This is pretty traditional Ramc diplomacy from what I remember. That is "Pan Diplomacy" actually
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Apr 12, 2019 03:30
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Ramc is actually very nice and diplomatic if he's in a strategically inferior position to you. That's just almost never the case.
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Apr 12, 2019 04:16
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my domplomacy was usually just going 'i have good scales and just want to turtle please leave me alone' this is usually why i never won games
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Apr 12, 2019 04:22
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Kitfox88 posted:'i have good scales and just want to turtle please leave me alone' This almost works with Sir Mix-A-Lot's anthem.
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Apr 12, 2019 04:29
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How are u posted:This almost works with Sir Mix-A-Lot's anthem. tfw you have more scales than the bible's got psalms
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Apr 12, 2019 04:32
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i like big scales and i cannot lie you other chassis cant deny that when a dom walks in with an itty bitty bless and growth scales in your place you get sprung, want to pull up troops cause you noticed that cash was stuffed
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Apr 12, 2019 08:16
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i'm no good at parodies sorry
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Apr 12, 2019 08:17
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Neither am I, but that never stopped me from making them, and the cringier, the better. 
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Apr 12, 2019 08:21
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It seems like mercenaries usually just get grabbed up to help early expansions or bolster early game armies and then kinda just get forgotten about once players get their economies and murderballs formed, is that about right? Is it worth it to try and pick up a magical mercenary if they have paths your nation doesn't have easy access to? Maybe help you branch into new kinds of magic or forge items you couldn't yourself?
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Apr 12, 2019 09:59
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yeah its extremely worth it to do that. stand outs are gote who is blood /death and ferrus who is earth/astral
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Apr 12, 2019 10:21
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ousire posted:It seems like mercenaries usually just get grabbed up to help early expansions or bolster early game armies and then kinda just get forgotten about once players get their economies and murderballs formed, is that about right? Is it worth it to try and pick up a magical mercenary if they have paths your nation doesn't have easy access to? Maybe help you branch into new kinds of magic or forge items you couldn't yourself? There is no way to know what paths a merc mage has without looking it up though so totally spoil yourself there.
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