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Cubone
May 26, 2011

Because it never leaves its bedroom, no one has ever seen this poster's real face.

PostNouveau posted:

Futurama had some gems in the later seasons. "The Late Philip J Fry" was an obvious standout, but even in the last season, the series finale was good, as was the parody of The Thing and the one where they become firemen.
yes

I gave up on Futurama after the Susan Boyle episode, but I happened to catch one scene from this episode

Professor Farnsworth says something like, "Any one of us could be next!" and the camera pans as he points and starts naming the people who could be next, "Fry, Leela, Bender, Jackie Junior..."

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Cubone
May 26, 2011

Because it never leaves its bedroom, no one has ever seen this poster's real face.

Improbable Lobster posted:

elfo dies and a character specifically does not bring him back to life when they could

lol

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

The Croc posted:

If the show was called Disjointed it would have been a more accurate title. The World its in has potential but they don't half botch the landing.

I watched the first episode of Disjointed and I would much rather watch a new episode of the Simpsons than watch that show again.

fish and chips and dip
Feb 17, 2010

Space Cadet Omoly posted:

I didn't realize Trillogy of Error was post classic, I thought season 12 was still in the grace period.

If you haven't seen season 12 check out: New Kids on the Blecch, Skinner's Sense of Snow, and A Tale of Two Springfields in addition to Trillogy of Error.

Oh wow, for some reason I had "trilogy of error" as season 16, I didn't realize it was as early as 12.

Pawg From Produce
Feb 11, 2019

by FactsAreUseless
Everybody always debates when the Simpsons got bad, but these days I'm more interested in where that grace period ends. For me it's a hard cliff at Season 14, but I dunno how many other people watched it chronologically, recently enough to say.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Iron Crowned posted:

I watched the first episode of Disjointed and I would much rather watch a new episode of the Simpsons than watch that show again.

disenchanted is way better than current simpsons. Sorry

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Milo and POTUS posted:

disenchanted is way better than current simpsons. Sorry

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5884792/?ref_=nv_sr_1?ref_=nv_sr_1
:ssh:

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
*tugging at my collar like rodney dangerfield until my head pops off*

Calaveron
Aug 7, 2006
:negative:
I choose to believe they still haven't released the second half of the first season of disenchantment because it was so lovely they hope people forgot it ever existed already

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

Calaveron posted:

I choose to believe they still haven't released the second half of the first season of disenchantment because it was so lovely they hope people forgot it ever existed already

It is weird they haven't even set a release date. I wonder if they did "reshoots" or something.

emgeejay
Dec 8, 2007

DoctorGonzo posted:

i dont understand any of those words

Um, okay. Last month Megan Amram was the credited writer for a bad episode of The Simpsons. A goon who's only heard of her Twitter account said we shouldn't have expected tweet-writing skills to translate to writing a funny episode of television. I pointed out Amram wrote several very good and funny full-length episodes of the NBC sitcom "The Good Place." Tweets are what they call posts on Twitter. Hope that helps!

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit
Twitter is for Nazis, HTH

ClamdestineBoyster
Aug 15, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Iron Crowned posted:

Twitter is for Nazis, HTH

Man that’s dumb as hell, ja rule is probably on there, he’s not a Nazi.

YeahTubaMike
Mar 24, 2005

*hic* Gotta finish thish . . .
Doctor Rope

Phlegmish posted:

I have to admit that it's only now that I realize the name is a Simpsons reference

this is like when it finally hit me that "manic street preachers" is street preachers who are manic, not preachers who are on manic street

Mind Loving Owl posted:

That episode where it turned out all the male Simpsons have some weird early onset dementia always left a bad taste in my mouth. I mean, we have this whole big deal about Lisa's entire reason for being being shaken by not figuring out one stupid puzzle, and instead of just having her realize everyone has off days or weak points, we have it so all her lady relatives are geniuses in Lisa approved fields (no lady oil tycoons or Serena Joy style pundits) and every bloke in her family is doomed to go senile at age ten. It's weirdly mean-spirited in a way the show doesn't seem concious of. Also, Grandpa knows about this, but didn't remember all his cousins and aunts and the like were super successful?

gently caress, i never had any issue with this episode and now i'm kind of bummed out & miffed

Cubone posted:

the only episodes I remember was, the teen angel learned he could time travel, so he traveled back in time to stop himself from eating the burger, but then the other kid ate it and became an angel, but it didn't stop the original teen angel being an angel for some reason, and the two of them traveled back again to stop them both from eating it, but then Jerry Van Dyne slipped on the burger and fell out the window and died. eventually everybody in the house was murdered by the hamburger. I don't remember how it was resolved

this sounds absolutely loving hilarious :haw:

Razorwired posted:

Teen Angel isn't even the worst post-Sabrina magical sitcom.

The genie show, You Wish, was all about the genie trying to trick the family into using up their 3 wishes so he could leave. It had an episode where an old genie was sundowning and wanted the genie + family to euthanize him by firing his body into the atmosphere so he would burn up and become a shooting star.

this sounds incredibly dark

LIVE AMMO ROLEPLAY posted:

The episode that broke me for Futurama was the Close Encounters parody. Any time they try to do mythology stuff after the first cancellation it's dire. I should have stopped with the Susan Boyle joke though because that's as bad as they come.

i'm STILL mad at the susan boyle episode. gently caress that episode.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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YeahTubaMike posted:

i'm STILL mad at the susan boyle episode. gently caress that episode.

It's one of those times when you watch the credits and think "YOU thought this was a good idea... and YOU thought this was a good idea... and YOU, and YOU, and YOU..."

Detective No. 27
Jun 7, 2006

#Susanalbumparty

Lowen SoDium
Jun 5, 2003

Highen Fiber
Clapping Larry
Post movies Futurama is real hit or miss. I love the episode where the characters have their genders removed then switched. Also the one with the Eye-Phones. Reincarnation is probably the worst episode of the whole show.

I am going to give Disenchanted a second chance with it's second season, but I don't hold high hopes for it.

Plan Z
May 6, 2012

Bust Rodd posted:

The Futurama movie about David Cross being this weird mind-control alien was the nail in the coffin for me, I was frankly astonished that I was watching a single “episode” of Futurama for over an hour and just didn’t find any jokes to laugh at. The fact the first episode back after that was a Leela//Zap fan fiction was painful, it was the first show I ever abandoned before it was cancelled. S4 true Finale, everything after that is just Farnsworth Dementia Bob Newhart style.

Some of David Cross’s work, like Todd Margaret, just eludes me, I don’t laugh, I don’t like it. This felt like that.

I have a thought experiment: self-torture goons, what is the FUNNIEST episode from the last decade? Can you think of an episode exclusively from 2010-present that made you laugh or had some serious laughs, or even just a good couple gags?

I don’t mean one good scene, I’m asking for a funny episode.

Futurama lost me when it felt like every other episode was trying to be Fry's Dog. The "movies" were especially bad about this. It didn't help that Billy and Katey were really not good at doing sad acting. Then when they weren't trying to do drama, there were a lot of episodes that felt like fanficition (Amy and Leela doing nearly-nude wrestling for Fry, and that awful gender-swap episode, for example). The punch-up also reached late Simpsons level of laziness.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Razorwired posted:

Teen Angel isn't even the worst post-Sabrina magical sitcom.

The genie show, You Wish, was all about the genie trying to trick the family into using up their 3 wishes so he could leave. It had an episode where an old genie was sundowning and wanted the genie + family to euthanize him by firing his body into the atmosphere so he would burn up and become a shooting star.

If they weren't wishing for things why did they want to keep the genie around

Harold Stassen
Jan 24, 2016

PostNouveau posted:

What I'm saying is you're seeing a portent of what's to come from the Jean and Reiss combo that will eventually tank the show.

Al Jean & Mike Reiss were show runners for seasons 3 and 4, and both seasons are filled with purestrain classic Simpsons. The show then was about as funny as it would ever be (though my absolute favorites are mostly in 5 & 6). Al Jean on his own is the nightmare.

David Mirkin turned up the wackiness, Oakley & Weinstein turned the show's world on its head, and Mike Scully turned up the meanness. Then when it rolled back around to Al Jean it became a shambling mutant- a zombie, if you will, with no heart and no brain (two things which were the cornerstones of earlier episodes) and no reason to exist but to make money.

Skinner's Sense of Snow is probably the last good episode imo

DorkusMalorkus
Aug 4, 2009

"That's not Latin!"
Disenchantment does get better, but only marginally, and only after like 7 episodes. It's not really worth sticking with it. It does seem like it's just trying to be Ren Faire Futurama, but it hasn't earned any of the drama or relationships it keeps trying to shoehorn in.

I had to look up a list of Futurama episodes to pinpoint where I stopped watching it. I think it was "Reincarnation." I don't remember hating that one, but the whole season had been pretty bad and it just didn't feel worth continuing, which made me pretty sad because I loving LOVED the original seasons. I watched the first episode when it first aired on TV in the 10th grade! As far as I'm concerned, "Devils Hands" was the series finale and everything that came afterward doesn't exist. Just like the Simpsons after season 9(ish).

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:

Al Jean & Mike Reiss were show runners for seasons 3 and 4, and both seasons are filled with purestrain classic Simpsons. The show then was about as funny as it would ever be (though my absolute favorites are mostly in 5 & 6). Al Jean on his own is the nightmare.

David Mirkin turned up the wackiness, Oakley & Weinstein turned the show's world on its head, and Mike Scully turned up the meanness. Then when it rolled back around to Al Jean it became a shambling mutant- a zombie, if you will, with no heart and no brain (two things which were the cornerstones of earlier episodes) and no reason to exist but to make money.

Skinner's Sense of Snow is probably the last good episode imo

Oh yeah I was conflating Mike Scully and Mike Reiss there

Lowen SoDium posted:

I love the episode where the characters have their genders removed then switched. Also the one with the Eye-Phones.

Those two are awful! The second one is the Susan Boil episode!

Applewhite
Aug 16, 2014

by vyelkin
Nap Ghost

sweet geek swag posted:

I gave up on Disenchantment after the first couple episodes, but then came back and finished it about a month or two later. It does improve, but I'm not sure that it was worth it. A couple of the episodes had me laughing a lot, but I can't remember why now.

This was my watching pattern for Disenchanted as well, minus the eventual laughter. I'm not sure if it got better or if I just got acclimatized to how bad it was, like in a hot tub.

Plan Z
May 6, 2012

I think eventually the delivery of even "meh" jokes gets a little better in Disenchantment. The first few episodes actually deliver the jokes in a pretty similar pacing to Mr. Burns' sitcom.

J-Spot
May 7, 2002

Pawg From Produce posted:

Everybody always debates when the Simpsons got bad, but these days I'm more interested in where that grace period ends. For me it's a hard cliff at Season 14, but I dunno how many other people watched it chronologically, recently enough to say.

15 and 16 are a step up from 14 for me but anything in the teen years tends to have a few episodes I like well enough, a few that are absolutely dire, and the rest just kind of forgettable. Once you hit the HD era of season 20 you reach the point where almost nothing about the show works anymore. What few highlights there are tend to be ones where Matt Selman is given lead showrunner duties which happens a couple of times per year. His episodes usually at least do a better job with characterization and plotting but he's working with the same writers so you can't expect them to be a laugh riot.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Disenchantment is fine if you watch it as its own thing IMO and try to ignore its connection with Futurama and The Simpsons. The reason the late seasons of those two shows are exceptionally terrible is the legacy that they're trashing. If not for that they would just be forgettable instead of insulting.

Elfo being hot for princess loving sucked though and I'm not sure what they were thinking aside from trying to do a Fry/Leela thing without realizing why the Fry/Leela thing worked

SeANMcBAY
Jun 28, 2006

Look on the bright side.



I liked Disenchantment. Really looking forward to a smoothed out season 2.

Calaveron
Aug 7, 2006
:negative:

SeANMcBAY posted:

I liked Disenchantment. Really looking forward to a smoothed out season 2.

Season 1 ain’t over though

Tree Goat
May 24, 2009

argania spinosa
https://twitter.com/Disney/status/1116490792762138624

J-Spot
May 7, 2002


Remember when this show was a horrible assault on family values? Now it's considered family-friendly enough to fly under the Disney banner.

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004


There we are. Welcome to the bottom, folks.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

Oh wow, we actually found it. The Marianas Trench

BIG MEATY SHITS
Mar 13, 2017

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Soiled Meat

i aint fuckin watching it but i gotta give it props for murdoch in the trash where he fuckin belongs

CodfishCartographer
Feb 23, 2010

Gadus Maprocephalus

Pillbug

This feels like the Simpsons variety show segment in the spinoff showcase, but not done purposefully bad for laughs.

Cubone
May 26, 2011

Because it never leaves its bedroom, no one has ever seen this poster's real face.

YeahTubaMike posted:

this sounds absolutely loving hilarious :haw:
I found it funny as a kid and honestly as an adult I still find it funny at least in abstract

DorkusMalorkus
Aug 4, 2009

"That's not Latin!"

Everyone's voice sounds so awful. Bart barely sounds like himself anymore.

DorkusMalorkus fucked around with this message at 03:53 on Apr 12, 2019

YeahTubaMike
Mar 24, 2005

*hic* Gotta finish thish . . .
Doctor Rope

Fojar38 posted:

Elfo being hot for princess loving sucked though and I'm not sure what they were thinking aside from trying to do a Fry/Leela thing without realizing why the Fry/Leela thing worked

here's the thing about fry & leela -- fry was a self-centered dumbass with absolutely nothing to offer, and leela had self-esteem so utterly abysmal (she was, after all, ostensibly the only one-eyed alien in existence who grew up as a lonely orphan) that she slept with zapp brannigan & nearly married that shapeshifter who treated her like dirt. the only reason the fry/leela thing "worked" is because she didn't know she could do better, unless both of their characters were COMPLETELY overhauled in the post-movie era.

if that's the point you were trying to make, then i'm totally on board and apologize for my ramblings.

edit2: i apologize for my ramblings anyway because i feel like i've ranted about the true nature of fry & leela's characters/relationship like eighty times in this thread, lol

edit:

Cubone posted:

I found it funny as a kid and honestly as an adult I still find it funny at least in abstract

the idea of a hamburger just massacring everyone is loving great, and now i want to see it

YeahTubaMike fucked around with this message at 04:10 on Apr 12, 2019

spaceblancmange
Apr 19, 2018

#essereFerrari

DorkusMalorkus posted:

Everyone's voice sounds so awful. Bart barely sounds like himself anymore.

Behold the ravages of age.

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

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I like how even the announcement tweet makes a joke referencing golden era Simpsons, because even Disney recognizes that's the only source of humor in the show's run

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Dec 28, 2009

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Did they ... did the simpsons just make a simpsons reference

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