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Reaching my goal body weight is never satisfying because it always leads me to realize I've underestimated how much fat I actually have and overestimated my muscle mass. When I was 210 pounds I thought I would look great at 180. I get there, nope, I just look less round lmao. Same thing for 170 and 160. Now I'm like 155 and maybe I think I'll be done when I get to 150? I'm certainly close to the point where instead of "I gotta lose 10 pounds of fat" I'm gonna go "I need to gain X pounds of muscle"
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Apr 12, 2019 21:54
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Do not go below 150. Wait until the leaves turn and get to bulking.
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Apr 12, 2019 22:02
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Maybe you're losing a lot of muscle along with the fat. That was always one of my main problems. I'd be really diligent with diet and training during cuts (pumping myself full of protein and working out just as hard in the gym) and I'd lose weight but along with the weightloss I often also lost a lot of muscle and retained way too much fat. I never really managed to get the "chiseled" look a lot of fitness models have
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Apr 12, 2019 22:11
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Zzulu posted:I never really managed to get the "chiseled" look a lot of fitness models have Should’ve tried steroids
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Apr 12, 2019 22:13
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I have tried steroids and they gave me a lot of good results. But not like, SUPER amazing results and they didn't really do anything for cutting. I did basically look like I was always pumped up though which, from an aesthetic perspective, was really nice.
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Apr 12, 2019 22:16
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In addition to high protein intake (like .8g per lb) while cutting, I find going slow helps with muscle retention. I try to keep cuts at like .5 lbs per week.
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Apr 12, 2019 22:16
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Zzulu posted:Maybe you're losing a lot of muscle along with the fat. I do DXA scans every 6 months or so and usually for every 10 pounds I lose like 1-1.5 pound of it is lean mass. Can do better probably but I'd have to be much stricter with my adherence. My lifts are lower of course but they are still comfortably in the "intermediate" range according to a few websites. I hope I can get back whatever I lost eventually.
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Apr 12, 2019 23:29
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Do you guys take anything besides protein and creatine? I have a couple folks singing the praises of collagen, cherry juice, and taurine but I don’t want to get myself into some snake oil nonsense
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Apr 13, 2019 04:39
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bomb posted:Do you guys take anything besides protein and creatine? I have a couple folks singing the praises of collagen, cherry juice, and taurine but I don’t want to get myself into some snake oil nonsense I spent a couple of years stuffing my body with supplements - All the vitamins A through K + Zinc, arginine, chlorophyll, collagen, fish oils, resveratrol, lecithin, etc etc. If it had a slightly positive study I was taking it. It was probably about 20 pills a day. Honestly I did feel somewhat better than today, had better skin, and I was definitely in better shape and had more energy, but it gets real expensive and I was probably pissing away like 90% of it. Also I was drinking green juice more often. I would say I felt about 5-10% better than today where I just take fish oil and maybe vitamin B some days. And green tea. But it could just be the aging Also I took blood tests at the time and everything came out super I’m curious about ketones, which weren’t popular at the time... but again, I doubt they help more than just eating well Comfy Fleece Sweater fucked around with this message at 05:39 on Apr 13, 2019 |
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Apr 13, 2019 05:30
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My favorite ketones cyclohexanone.
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Apr 13, 2019 05:34
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VorpalFish posted:In addition to high protein intake (like .8g per lb) while cutting, I find going slow helps with muscle retention. I try to keep cuts at like .5 lbs per week.
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Apr 13, 2019 07:13
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UnfurledSails posted:I do DXA scans every 6 months or so and usually for every 10 pounds I lose like 1-1.5 pound of it is lean mass. Can do better probably but I'd have to be much stricter with my adherence. My lifts are lower of course but they are still comfortably in the "intermediate" range according to a few websites. I hope I can get back whatever I lost eventually. Maybe you have lovely genes? Ever though about that?  The only other supplement that I take next to creatine is Beta alanin. Everything else seems to be just expensive fluff. Helios Grime fucked around with this message at 08:24 on Apr 13, 2019 |
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Apr 13, 2019 08:22
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bomb posted:Do you guys take anything besides protein and creatine? I have a couple folks singing the praises of collagen, cherry juice, and taurine but I don’t want to get myself into some snake oil nonsense In my experience: I take EAAs and cyclic dextrin during training, unlike everything else I've used so far (maltodextrin, whey etc.), I've noticed actual difference in recovery. Curcumin has helped in reducing inflammation and aches (muscles, joints). Magnesium is good (just don't get oxide or citrate). Multivitamin is good, taking the recommended dose is usually overkill, so if it's 2 pills I take 1 a day etc. Vitamin D is mandatory if you live in a dark hell like northern europe. Creatine never did anything for me, except cause bloat and acne. Omega 3's are good if you don't eat much fatty fish, I stopped taking them after a long time and now that I'm back using krill oil, I've noticed a big difference in how my joints feel. All the actual joint supplements (collagen etc.) have actually made me feel stiff, so I don't take them. Never noticed anything positive. If you have trouble sleeping, try Ashagwanda. For me this is probably the most important along with vitamin D.
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Apr 13, 2019 08:36
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I never noticed any difference while taking vitamins or fish oil or whatever. Except vitamin d since it is so important here in the dark frozen north I did notice a difference taking testosterone. That's the real stuff
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Apr 13, 2019 10:33
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I'm now pressing my own cissus pills. After my primaforce bottle ran out I bought a little press thing, caps and a bulk bag of cissus. I've got at least 6 months worth for like $20 before the press thing. I've been working on my knees lately and a lot of days it's removed all discomfort pain caused by an old meniscus tear. When I stop taking it, I see a pretty huge difference.
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Apr 13, 2019 11:05
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Most days i take: -a multivitamin -6,000 iu d3 -calcium, magnesium, zinc -b complex -citrulline malate -arginine Along with the other vertical diet stuff. i consistently feel way better and have more energy when i take all this stuff, but it very well could be placebo
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Apr 13, 2019 14:23
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Besides protein and creatine, I do a multivitamin and omega 3 capsules. I feel like. I get a little more joint pain when I stop the omega 3s, but I could be imagining that pretty easily. Mostly it's a "I know I don't eat enough green poo poo, please don't die, body" thing.Khorne posted:Depends on weight. As a fatass, I can personally lose more than that per week. Yeah, if you have 25+ pounds to lose, you're going to want to go faster, but at that point you also don't have to worry about losing muscle as much. The leaner you are to begin with, the harder it's going to be to keep muscle in a deficit.
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Apr 13, 2019 14:28
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i don't see how eating collagen specifically could have an effect. it's a protein and like all proteins gets broken down into its component amino acids during digestion. when the body then absorbs these amino acids it doesn't care where they came from
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Apr 13, 2019 15:38
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The amino acids retain their memory of what it was like to be collagen, and yearn to be folded as they were in a past life 
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Apr 13, 2019 19:54
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UGH I'm at a mental plateau. Was going for a 405 DL, did 395 no issues. 405 barely budged. It's 100% in my head and it's really annoying. any ideas on how to break thru? Excess salami intake?
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Apr 13, 2019 21:29
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MA-Horus posted:UGH I'm at a mental plateau. Was going for a 405 DL, did 395 no issues. 405 barely budged. It's 100% in my head and it's really annoying. Then when you go to take off the plates later realize what you've done.
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Apr 13, 2019 21:33
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How long did you rest between those attempts? Sometimes taking a few more minutes makes a difference.
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Apr 13, 2019 21:57
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david carmichael posted:Someone convince me not to do the conjugate method in like a month. My form is bad, im weak, i have no coach and no good training partners. But i have a shitload of bars, a mono, bands, chains, ghr, hyper, belt squat, etc. and if i set up my DE days with straight weight I should be able to do my ME or DE days in any gym while Im travelling Conjugate is awesome and I wish I had started it last year instead of getting super weak loving around with no program after having a kid. But my God make sure your conditioning is decent
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Apr 13, 2019 22:22
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B-Rock452 posted:Conjugate is awesome and I wish I had started it last year instead of getting super weak loving around with no program after having a kid. But my God make sure your conditioning is decent My conditioning is bad relative to how i look, but i hope this will help. Ill do some cardio on off days too
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Apr 13, 2019 23:48
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david carmichael posted:Most days i take: its probably more the steak and rice making you feel good, cuz the vertical diet is pretty solid
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Apr 14, 2019 00:12
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im literally going broke buying filet mignon everyday but i can eat a whole lb of it so fast it makes it worth it
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Apr 14, 2019 00:14
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Find a restaurant supply store like Gordon. You can get a whole 20 pound eye of round for $2.50/lbs. You have to trim the fat cap and silver skin but adjusting for edible/inedible comes to 2.65ish/lbs. Cut eight or ten ounce steaks and use the meat trimmings for either ground beef or stew meat. Edit: a large cutting board and very sharp knife will help
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Apr 14, 2019 00:27
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Just hunt the animals yourself you loving pussy, weakling
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Apr 14, 2019 00:29
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Deer season has been over since January here and I don't know anyone with land.
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Apr 14, 2019 00:33
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Guyver posted:Deer season has been over since January here and I don't know anyone with land. guyver you are a cool dude
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Apr 14, 2019 00:38
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MA-Horus posted:UGH I'm at a mental plateau. Was going for a 405 DL, did 395 no issues. 405 barely budged. It's 100% in my head and it's really annoying. Do a hypertrophy block then try again, that's how I broke 400
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Apr 14, 2019 02:03
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If you're sure it's a mental block just do some mushrooms.
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Apr 14, 2019 02:11
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Are you on mushrooms right now?
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Apr 14, 2019 02:33
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Fallows posted:Are you on mushrooms right now? uH, NO
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Apr 14, 2019 02:39
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Anyone ever done a minicut before? Advice? I'm heading to the Bahamas for a wedding in a few weeks and want to be unnecessarily shredded for it.
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Apr 14, 2019 02:51
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Defiant Sally posted:Anyone ever done a minicut before? Advice? I'm heading to the Bahamas for a wedding in a few weeks and want to be unnecessarily shredded for it. don't eat salt and drink a lot of alcohol
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Apr 14, 2019 03:39
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nooneofconsequence posted:don't eat salt and drink a lot of alcohol I haven't had a drop of alcohol since New Years so I'm looking forward to getting instantly blackout.
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Apr 14, 2019 04:28
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turd in my singlet posted:Do a hypertrophy block then try again, that's how I broke 400 Use the trap bar for a couple week 👀
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Defiant Sally posted:Anyone ever done a minicut before? Advice? I'm heading to the Bahamas for a wedding in a few weeks and want to be unnecessarily shredded for it. Don’t eat anything or drink any water
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