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| Joe "the liberal who fights busing" Biden |
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27 | 1.40% |
| Bernie "please don't die" Sanders |
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1017 | 52.69% |
| Cory "charter schools" Booker |
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12 | 0.62% |
| Kirsten "wall street" Gillibrand |
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24 | 1.24% |
| Kamala "truancy queen" Harris |
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59 | 3.06% |
| Julian "who?" Castro |
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7 | 0.36% |
| Tulsi "gay panic" Gabbard |
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25 | 1.30% |
| Michael "crimes crimes crimes" Avenatti |
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22 | 1.14% |
| Sherrod "discount bernie" Brown |
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21 | 1.09% |
| Amy "horrible boss" Klobuchar |
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12 | 0.62% |
| Tammy "stands for america" Duckworth |
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48 | 2.49% |
| Beto "whataburger" O'Rourke |
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32 | 1.66% |
| Elizabeth "instagram beer" Warren |
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284 | 14.72% |
| Tom "impeach please" Steyer |
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4 | 0.21% |
| Michael "soda is the devil" Bloomberg |
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9 | 0.47% |
| Joseph Stalin |
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287 | 14.87% |
| Howard "coffee republican" Schultz |
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10 | 0.52% |
Jay "nobody cares about climate change  " Inslee |
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13 | 0.67% |
| Pete "gently caress the homeless" Butt Man |
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17 | 0.88% |
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Thank you for that, wicked. I've been thinking about it and I think that Harris, Beto, and Buttgieg might actually sabotage each other and lead to a Sanders primary win. It's extremely clear that they all want to be the establishment candidate but they're all self-absorbed enough to where they won't likely bow out for one of the other candidates. Like three mini-Clintons running at once.
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Ubiquitous_ posted:The sheer amount of gay communities on social media rallying around him, and being outwardly hostile towards any criticism of Buttigieg, has alarmed me. The LGBT community needs to be better than this, imo. VitalSigns posted:Then there's the kind that says "wow I've been oppressed and discriminated against my entire life for something beyond my control, and I've learned that it's unjust that I personally have been shut out from the privilege to which I was always told I was entitled as a (pick one or more) ☑affluent ☑cis ☑white ☑male, and systems of oppression must and shall be reconfigured to put me on top where I belong!" From past experience, it's this kind of gay that has disproportionate influence within Democratic politics, and is almost always complaining when anything happens that isn't about them. When I was trying to help get Michigan canvassed in 2016, some Hillary staffer was mad about that, because the campaign believed Michigan was already won. Instead of debating the poll numbers, he immediately went to complaining that any criticism of him was wrong, because he was gay. When the Green New Deal came out with AOC, this same group was mad that something other than LGBT issues were pushed to the forefront. Even last year, during the midterms, this group was just trying to be intentionally contrarian, by starting dumb arguments that only Hillary Clinton should be the Democratic nominee in 2020, and if you're against that, you're anti-gay. That shouldn't be a thing in big-tent, vast coalition politics, but it's been an issue for a while. Hopefully, Pete Buttigieg making a fool of himself can get some heads back on straight.
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AsInHowe posted:That shouldn't be a thing in big-tent, vast coalition politics, but it's been an issue for a while. Hopefully, Pete Buttigieg making a fool of himself can get some heads back on straight. hello pence
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Apr 16, 2019 23:46
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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:remember that Systemic Consultant Thinking you were busy trying to work your way through, Brandor Every time haim saban comes up I get sad because power rangers pays for Zionist bullshit
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Apr 16, 2019 23:50
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Establishment policies with a dash of identity politics is a good way to attract big money donors and useful idiots. Buttigieg's election strategy makes sense to me, I just don't think he will garner enough of a coalition to pull it off. After reading more about him the last few days in this thread I can see why he drives many people insane, but I also don't think many of his stances are far at all from what Democratic leadership has traditionally advocated for in the past several election cycles.
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Apr 16, 2019 23:50
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Ubiquitous_ posted:Didn't you hear the news? Being gay and white automatically cancels out your minority status. Swigs stopped doing anything for human queers the second they got marriage. If they could have kept the rest of us from getting married they would have.
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Apr 16, 2019 23:51
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HootTheOwl posted:Prison should be reserved for people we've decided are no longer fit to be apart of our society. Assuming prisons are being used correctly, you wouldn't want the people within having an input in the society they do not get to be apart of.
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Apr 16, 2019 23:51
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Condiv posted:hello pence ah shut I didn't see that phrasing. Sorry.
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Apr 16, 2019 23:52
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HootTheOwl posted:What do you think a prison is?
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Apr 17, 2019 00:00
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https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/15/pete-buttigieg-national-service-program-1277274quote:Democratic presidential candidate Pete Buttigieg on Monday night advocated a form of national public service for all young adults as a way to create unity among Americans.  how can ANYONE like this trashpile of a candidate!?
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Apr 17, 2019 00:01
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you all can say "well, pete will be better than trump" but I am not gonna vote for that shitstain if he wins gently caress him
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Apr 17, 2019 00:03
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referring to Pete as "Butt," "the buttman," or any variation that places emphasis on the fact that his last name contains the word 'butt' is probably not a great look, imo. I won't call it 'homophobic' but its not a great look and plenty of people would find it offensive and crass. I do not like the mayor, personally.
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I’m 100 percent certain mayor Pete is a loving sociopath . He has no concrete plans and just speaks in the vaguest sense about uhhh stuff .
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Apr 17, 2019 00:03
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Condiv posted:https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/15/pete-buttigieg-national-service-program-1277274 SERVICE GUARANTEES CITIZENSHIP!  Would you like to know more?
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Apr 17, 2019 00:04
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whiggles posted:referring to Pete as "Butt," "the buttman," or any variation that places emphasis on the fact that his last name contains the word 'butt' is probably not a great look, imo. I won't call it 'homophobic' but its not a great look and plenty of people would find it offensive and crass. awww how dare we offend the little fascist Pete the butts sensibilities ! He wants to gas and kill Palestinians . But if we mock his last name we are the true bad guys
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Apr 17, 2019 00:04
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whiggles posted:referring to Pete as "Butt," "the buttman," or any variation that places emphasis on the fact that his last name contains the word 'butt' is probably not a great look, imo. I won't call it 'homophobic' but its not a great look and plenty of people would find it offensive and crass. half of his original appeal was that his name contained butt in it
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Apr 17, 2019 00:05
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AsInHowe posted:From past experience, it's this kind of gay that has disproportionate influence within Democratic politics, and is almost always complaining when anything happens that isn't about them. Someone else knows what a Straight White Gay is and is more composed than I'm capable of being at the moment. Anyway, when "I can't be bothered with this poo poo." (this poo poo meaning clarifying diplomatic issues revolving around gay passports and asserting the equal citizenship of SSM/SSA couples, as well as trans people) happened the SWGs were out in full force for the rest of the election poo poo-talking lgbt people who would want to leave America, lgbts who HAVE to travel for business instead of getting to, trans people, Muslims, etc. The Straight White Gays, to a man, are the sort of fucks who'd give their kid to a conversion camp rather than accept a tax hike. They are also astonishingly racist/sexist and are often TERF-aligned.
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Apr 17, 2019 00:07
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Condiv posted:https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/15/pete-buttigieg-national-service-program-1277274 
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Apr 17, 2019 00:07
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whiggles posted:referring to Pete as "Butt," "the buttman," or any variation that places emphasis on the fact that his last name contains the word 'butt' is probably not a great look, imo. I won't call it 'homophobic' but its not a great look and plenty of people would find it offensive and crass. haha gently caress off with this "I'm not gonna call it homophobic but..." poo poo, if you're wanna paint it as homophobic to call him Butt then just do it so we can mock you properly.
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Apr 17, 2019 00:07
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If you don't want to be mocked as wannabe president Buttman of fartmerica then a good first step would be to not openly revel in the deaths of brown people / destroy homeless encampments / protect racist cops. Not having your surname be Buttigieg is a strong second step I will admit.
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Apr 17, 2019 00:18
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MrFlibble posted:If you don't want to be mocked as wannabe president Buttman of fartmerica then a good first step would be to not openly revel in the deaths of brown people / destroy homeless encampments / protect racist cops. oh he's gone beyond reveling in the deaths of brown people. now he wants to force every young person in america to revel in america's imperialism
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Apr 17, 2019 00:20
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Condiv posted:https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/15/pete-buttigieg-national-service-program-1277274
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Apr 17, 2019 00:23
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Imagine a national service where you get to go take care of a park or do environmental protection stuff.
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Apr 17, 2019 00:24
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whiggles posted:referring to Pete as "Butt," "the buttman," or any variation that places emphasis on the fact that his last name contains the word 'butt' is probably not a great look, imo. I won't call it 'homophobic' but its not a great look and plenty of people would find it offensive and crass. Buttchuggers is the only okay one since that one actually ties into his College White Boy supporters.
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Apr 17, 2019 00:25
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Or work at a homeless shelter, or a drug treatment facility, etc etc
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Apr 17, 2019 00:25
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:There are versions of a national service program which are actually decent proposals, this just isn't one of them. Yeah if he starts calling for everyone to spend a year cleaning up national forests and doing public works I might be ok with that, but no doubt in my mind he wants everyone to spend a year stomping on brown people abroad.
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Apr 17, 2019 00:26
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The thing about "Butt" jokes is that pretty soon right-wingers will start doing them in overtly homophobic ways and then it'll pretty clearly be not okay for anyone
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Apr 17, 2019 00:26
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whiggles posted:referring to Pete as "Butt," "the buttman," or any variation that places emphasis on the fact that his last name contains the word 'butt' is probably not a great look, imo. I won't call it 'homophobic' but its not a great look and plenty of people would find it offensive and crass.  We call him Buttman because he's a stupid moron with an ugly face and big butt and his butt smells and he likes to kiss his own butt. e: Also most of us started calling him Buttman long before we realized he's gay. Because his name has "Butt" in it. Majorian fucked around with this message at 00:31 on Apr 17, 2019 |
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Wicked Them Beats posted:Yeah if he starts calling for everyone to spend a year cleaning up national forests and doing public works I might be ok with that, but no doubt in my mind he wants everyone to spend a year stomping on brown people abroad. oh, it's almost certain from the politico article posted:Buttigieg mentioned that for him and several former presidents, including John F. Kennedy and George H. W. Bush, serving in the military allowed them to meet and build trust with people of starkly different backgrounds, education and income. Buttigieg served in the Navy from 2009 to 2017, including a deployment to Afghanistan. Buttigieg and Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii) are the only current Democratic presidential candidates who are veterans. if there is anything else to do in pete's "national service program" aside from military misadventures, it'll probably be discriminated against unless you're a wealthy failson/daughter. remember that pete wants his national service program to affect employment and the ability to get an education! Condiv fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Apr 17, 2019 |
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Apr 17, 2019 00:28
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Majorian posted:
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Apr 17, 2019 00:30
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Z. Autobahn posted:The thing about "Butt" jokes is that pretty soon right-wingers will start doing them in overtly homophobic ways and then it'll pretty clearly be not okay for anyone I find a lot of these funny even if a few get kinda uncomfortably close to the line but pretty much this. I also fully expect a Trump/Putin makeout situation of having to once again explain to people that poo poo ain't okay even if the targets are complete monsters.
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Apr 17, 2019 00:31
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guys we have other options than making fun of the way his name is spelled
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Apr 17, 2019 00:32
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sexpig by night posted:yea I'll cop to muddying the difference between citizen rights and resident rights on my end. The rights unique to citizens should be inherent and ironclad, there can be zero compromise on them and any stance other than full protection should be treated with suspicion. So what you are saying is that you oppose gun control? I mean that's a right that's unique to citizens so we can't deprive someone of that right, even if we have good reason to believe that they are on their way to murder their ex. edit: I don't personally have an objection to prisoners being granted the franchise, in a sane world the numbers should be a small enough percentage that it's not like they'll be able to vote themselves out of jail. But you're going to find it to be a hard sell that someone in prison should be able to vote, someone who has completed their sentence, sure but current prisoner, yeah I don't see that getting anything resembling support. Skex fucked around with this message at 00:37 on Apr 17, 2019 |
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Apr 17, 2019 00:34
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The question is - do you think a similarly monstrous straight man with the surname Buttsomething would be getting more / the same / or less calling of the buttman and similar joshing. Because if the people on something awful are being homophobic with their juvenile frivolous mocking of the bloodthirsty homeless hunting cop tongue kisser then it is a sad day for all of us.
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Apr 17, 2019 00:34
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Condiv posted:https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/15/pete-buttigieg-national-service-program-1277274 At least when Hillary proposed something similar students got free college out of it.
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Z. Autobahn posted:The thing about "Butt" jokes is that pretty soon right-wingers will start doing them in overtly homophobic ways and then it'll pretty clearly be not okay for anyone True, but given that this is a pretty self-contained space without too many right-wingers, I don't we're going to be giving the idea to them.
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Apr 17, 2019 00:38
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Skex posted:So what you are saying is that you oppose gun control? I mean that's a right that's unique to citizens so we can't deprive someone of that right, even if we have good reason to believe that they are on their way to murder their ex. Did you watch the Fox News crowd cheer for the concept of people voting from prison at the town hall? I think you're the one who wants it to be a hard sell because that makes you feel better, but most people seem to understand that 1 person = 1 vote. You're even buying into the dumb rhetorical framing of "they might vote themselves out of jail" (yes you said it probably won't happen but you're admitting it's a fear) eta: never mind, it's just gonna prompt a huge essay response, I know this pattern by now WampaLord fucked around with this message at 00:43 on Apr 17, 2019 |
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Apr 17, 2019 00:39
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Majorian posted:True, but given that this is a pretty self-contained space without too many right-wingers, I don't we're going to be giving the idea to them. Oh yeah it'll happen 100% independently of us
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Trabisnikof posted:guys we have other options than making fun of the way his name is spelled Petit Bourgeoisie
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At the absolute very least for districting purposes prisoners should be counted where they lived before their incarceration instead of giving people who live near prisons a bunch of extra votes with a perverse incentive to vote to keep people imprisoned.
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