Liquid Communism posted:

Yeah, they brought in new leadership who solved that and got them on an even keel again. They have experience in this crap sandwich now.

Kaza42 posted:

This looks exactly my jam, and I have backed it. Thanks for bringing this to my attention!

I tried to run a multi-century Vampire: the Requiem game once and it remains one of my "Really want to try this again" games

CottonWolf posted:

They fact that they haven't completely exploded their scope with stretch goals, and have basically said "We're not adding anything else", gives me a lot of faith.

Sinteres posted:

I was pretty tempted to drop $100 on the Vampire legacy game despite the high price tag and 'yeah I guess I should play Gloomhaven more instead' issue, but honestly the gameplay video by Rahdo didn't look super engaging to me.

Kaza42 posted:

I'm getting burned out on Gloomhaven, so was just thinking it'd be nice to find something new so it came along at the perfect time for me. The Rahdo video looked okay, but I really want to see what the legacy mechanics do long term. If they can get the game to change organically over time I'll be happy.

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THIS IS A BACKER ONLY UPDATE

I tend to be a dreamer, but I am also a pragmatist. I know that this campaign likely is too far from its goal to make up the ground that needs to be made within the time we have. I am still holding out hope but I need your help planning if we cannot get that final funding.

I know, that within Kickstarter there is a tendency to not want to be associated with a campaign that does not fund. There may be an urge to jump ship in the last hours.

I am asking that you stay in and stay funded.

I will ride this campaign to its completion rather than cancel out the project early. You never know, it's a long shot but I am here for the duration.

The reason I am asking you to stay in and freeze your funding, is that if this does not fund, it makes a difference for the next campaign. We have come a very long way to funding this and although it is falling short, having it fall at 80% is better optics for the next offering than if it failed at 20% funded. Even failures (especially when this close to the funding goals) can help provide confidence.

So please, stick around… You are not going to be charged for your pledged support if the campaign does not fund and I would love your feedback and general input on the next step.

The second reason; it may be possible to re-launch. (working on the assumption that this does not fund) I would need to do this very shortly after this campaign ends so as not to completely waste the advertising invested, now that eyes are on the project.

What would a relaunch look like?

I have two options available, both of which I want your feedback on.

1) I can lower the cost per kit. The funding required will have to go up but the per unit cost would go down. Essentially, we are attempting to spread the fixed costs of the tooling over a wider audience. Perhaps picking up more backers as we move closer to an impulse-buy or a fantastic deal when the kit cost is compared to other kits in the market.

Most of the costs for this campaign are tied up in paying for the tools… Printing more kits is a lesser expense comparatively. The MSRP on the kit would stay the same. It may be possible to get the kit down the the $30.00 level and not increase the total funding needed outside of the realm of reason.

Why did I not do that in the first place? Judgement call, I knew we would have a limited customer base (looking at my past Kickstarters and the survey) and there is simply no way for me to know if other factors such as perceived value would drive the numbers I needed in total backers or not. I still don't know... I just know this kit is a solid design and one that really needs to find its way to your collection.

2) I can re-launch as a resin kit. The cost per kit would go down, the cost of shipping would go up, they would not be as durable, but they would be far easier to assemble. (less parts) There is no tooling cost hurdle to meet. I could literally list the funding goal at the cost of a single kit, and we would be front page on KS funded in a day without shenanigans in funding goal fudging. The casters give me a per kit price that does not shift based on volume… It is what it is, pricing, rubber tooling is already included in the per kit price they give.

What do you think?

Re-launch or no?

Plastic or resin?

If you have another options or directions, I am open for discussion, just a brain storming session between you, me and 428 other friends

Whatever I do, I need your feedback. If this campaign does not fund, I need to be heading that direction as soon as I possibly can.

Thank you for backing, thank you for helping me get the word out!

I saw many posts by all of you and I have no doubt you are the ones who got us from 60% to 80% funded over the last couple of days.

Thank you again!

Mark

Josef bugman posted:

Does anyone have anything that helps explain Lancer for a group that has only previously used DnD 5e and Heroquest?

I love the setting, the idea and the whole set up but I also know my players will bounce off of it really hard unless I can explain it in a way they are used to, can anyone provide advice? Thanks!

Josef bugman posted:

Does anyone have anything that helps explain Lancer for a group that has only previously used DnD 5e and Heroquest?

I love the setting, the idea and the whole set up but I also know my players will bounce off of it really hard unless I can explain it in a way they are used to, can anyone provide advice? Thanks!

Captain Invictus posted:

so, the Stug didn't fund. Roughly 10k short of the goal. drat. Shortly before the end of the kickstarter, Mark posted a request to backers. I thought it might be interesting to hear from folks in this thread about it:

FirstAidKite posted:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/372651021/kingdom-rush-rift-in-time/posts/2481601

Some poo poo going down about the kingdom rush rift in time kickstarter

Backers are frustrated that the creators are continuing to inflate the price of going all-in on what looks like a relatively lightweight co-op game. They're inflating the price by adding more characters and gameplay as individual add-ons and whether you think that's a dumb thing to get frustrated about or not, there was this one comment from the creators that I got a big laugh out of.

Dawgstar posted:

was funded in seven minutes.

JazzFlight posted:

I'm probably going to drop out as well. Just this week there were other KS campaigns for expansions to game I own like Terraforming Mars, Maximum Apocalypse, and Anachrony, so I'm going to be stretched thin. I was hoping Kingdom Rush would max out at around $100, but it's ballooning up too much. They should have just launched the basic amount of content (with appropriate stretch goals) and then a year from now had a separate campaign for expansions and reprint.

Hostile V posted:

Haystack posted:

Lord_Hambrose posted:

Captain Invictus posted:

so, the Stug didn't fund. Roughly 10k short of the goal. drat. Shortly before the end of the kickstarter, Mark posted a request to backers. I thought it might be interesting to hear from folks in this thread about it:


Personally, I think going straight for a single vehicle-based kickstarter wasn't a good idea, and that he should probably start with either the stug AND some sort of infantry to back(which would also raise the base cost of the kickstarter unfortunately due to mold costs), or just start back into the KS game after such a long hiatus with the Shadokesh that he has posted teasers for for so long, which are sort of necron-eldar-tyranid/xenomorph aliens and they look extremely cool. Multipose infantry have a much bigger draw than singular vehicles, imo.

I know it says backer only update, but the KS is over and this subforum is one of the best I've ever visited for detailed, thoughtful traditional games talk, so I figured it'd be worth picking some brains here about it too.

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An epic adventure book for 5E. Blends classic fantasy with Greek mythology. From the lead designer of Baldur's Gate I & II and KOTOR.

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If you've been following this project already, then you know that we've released the Player's Guide to Odyssey of the Dragonlords for FREE on DriveThruRPG.com. This 32-page booklet provides players with a starting point for their journey into the lands of Thylea. It contains all the information you need to create your character.

Evil Mastermind posted:

How is Maximum Apocalypse? I've been kind of interested in it for a while.

Josef bugman posted:

Thanks everyone!

Main problem is more that we, as a group, aren't particularly good at doing the whole Min/Max, working out systems, stuff that you kind of need in games like Lancer. We are much better out in character stuff and running new ideas past each other.

Kai Tave posted:

For what it's worth I think Lancer is currently at a point where Min/Maxing is a thing you can do but not a thing you need to do, if that makes any sense. It's a bit like 4E D&D in that you can just say "I want to be this class because it looks cool" and even if the party ranger is reading Charop guides in their spare time you aren't going to fall into the "why am I even playing this game?" dilemma (unless you play a Binder, don't play a Binder).

Evil Mastermind posted:

How is Maximum Apocalypse? I've been kind of interested in it for a while.

Kai Tave posted:

For what it's worth I think Lancer is currently at a point where Min/Maxing is a thing you can do but not a thing you need to do, if that makes any sense. It's a bit like 4E D&D in that you can just say "I want to be this class because it looks cool" and even if the party ranger is reading Charop guides in their spare time you aren't going to fall into the "why am I even playing this game?" dilemma (unless you play a Binder, don't play a Binder).

ketchup vs catsup posted:

Adding other Vital games to the On Mars KS costs almost double their KS prices.

Escape plan KSed for $79, as an add on to OM it’s $140

pospysyl posted:

It makes a little bit of sense for Escape Plan, since it's ludicrously expensive on the secondary market, but even games like The Gallerist have a twenty dollar markup from the Amazon price, shipping not included.