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Shame Boy posted:why would you use a stolen car for doing crimes, wouldn't you get immediately flagged whenever anyone ran the plates? or are they just trying to do crimes before the cars are reported stolen? easiest way to get a car that’s not easily traced to you
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Shame Boy posted:why would you use a stolen car for doing crimes, wouldn't you get immediately flagged whenever anyone ran the plates? or are they just trying to do crimes before the cars are reported stolen? how often do you think people are "running the plates" on regular cars in traffic?
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Shame Boy posted:why would you use a stolen car for doing crimes, wouldn't you get immediately flagged whenever anyone ran the plates? or are they just trying to do crimes before the cars are reported stolen? it's not a terribly smart idea to use a getaway vehicle that's registered to you
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fishmech posted:how often do you think people are "running the plates" on regular cars in traffic? oh right not everyone is from florida, here that happens constantly. especially at night, cops will follow you around pretty close for a few minutes and you can see them typing stuff in to their laptop, then they'll pass you and do it to the next guy, over and over moving up the line. i talked to a retired cop from new york city once who moved down here and he said that's probably what they're doing and that florida cops "gently caress with you endlessly like that, i can't believe how different it is down here"
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Shame Boy posted:oh right not everyone is from florida, here that happens constantly. especially at night, cops will follow you around pretty close for a few minutes and you can see them typing stuff in to their laptop, then they'll pass you and do it to the next guy, over and over moving up the line. i talked to a retired cop from new york city once who moved down here and he said that's probably what they're doing and that florida cops "gently caress with you endlessly like that, i can't believe how different it is down here" surely you are smart enough to understand that this means they aren't touching or checking the vast majority of the cars on the road at any one time, much less the few hours between stealing the car specifically do another crime and then ditching it? keep in mind part of the benefit of hacking this app to steal the cars is that the car also won't have any obvious damage from more "traditional" methods of stealing a car, so it'll be less visible as a target to the cops
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Shame Boy posted:oh right not everyone is from florida, here that happens constantly. especially at night, cops will follow you around pretty close for a few minutes and you can see them typing stuff in to their laptop, then they'll pass you and do it to the next guy, over and over moving up the line. i talked to a retired cop from new york city once who moved down here and he said that's probably what they're doing and that florida cops "gently caress with you endlessly like that, i can't believe how different it is down here" any particular reason they don’t use cameras & automatic number plate recognition?
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those car share cars are almost as invisible as taxis are.
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Cerv posted:any particular reason they don’t use cameras & automatic number plate recognition? those systems mostly matter for billing tolls or for proof of where a car was sighted after the fact.
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fishmech posted:surely you are smart enough to understand that this means they aren't touching or checking the vast majority of the cars on the road at any one time, much less the few hours between stealing the car specifically do another crime and then ditching it? so to answer my question, "yes they try to do the crime quickly"
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lol the car2go rollout in chicago included actual benzes????? when they tried doing it here they only had dinky Smarts also regarding plate recognition, most competent jurisdictions have gone to license plates that can be read with automated scanners. not image recognition either. the plates are made with some kind of coating or reflective crap that can be passively scanned by a cheapo sensor on a cop car
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Cerv posted:any particular reason they don’t use cameras & automatic number plate recognition? i vaguely remember news about the cops here testing out one of those systems for use on patrol cars a while ago but i'm not sure what happened with that florida is all about giving the police infinity money at the expense of literally everything else because it's the only thing old people care about so i wouldn't be surprised
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the cops here some of them have those but it must only work at low speed as they just cycle parking lots and things looking for hits but you’re already committing a crime so hey why not
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Shame Boy posted:so to answer my question, "yes they try to do the crime quickly" well its not like there's much point to stealing your getaway car months in advance or anything your hodgepodge of donutchuggers randomly picking cars to follow still ain't going to be an effective dragnet against stolen vehicles
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Partycat posted:the cops here some of them have those but it must only work at low speed as they just cycle parking lots and things looking for hits i got doinked with a "you don't have current tabs on your vehicle" fine a few years ago because i had bought the tabs but forgot to put them on the vehicle. i also lived in poorer neighborhood where we all had to park on the street, which i'm sure has no statistical correlation to why the cops gave me a ticket versus giving a ticket for the same issue to someone in a rich neighborhood
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Lain Iwakura posted:this was inevitable Don't all those cars have GPS installed so that they can just tell the cops where to go and find the stolen cars?
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Janitor Prime posted:Don't all those cars have GPS installed so that they can just tell the cops where to go and find the stolen cars? by the time they're reported stolen it probably is irrelevant Lutha Mahtin posted:lol the car2go rollout in chicago included actual benzes????? when they tried doing it here they only had dinky Smarts here in vancouver they're a combination of mercs and smarts
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Stolen cars are used for crimes all the time because contrary to popular belief cops don't give a gently caress about people stealing your poo poo
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Shame Boy posted:why would you use a stolen car for doing crimes, wouldn't you get immediately flagged whenever anyone ran the plates? or are they just trying to do crimes before the cars are reported stolen? looks at this guy, smoking crack and barfing in his own car like a scrub smh
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I don't want to know what weird place you live in that police follow you to check plates at night because that would be terrifying.
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Celexi posted:I don't want to know what weird place you live in that police follow you to check plates at night because that would be terrifying. what if your car is registered to a name that doesn’t sound white? cops are going to miss murdering innocent civilians at night if they don’t run the plates
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Celexi posted:I don't want to know what weird place you live in that police follow you to check plates at night because that would be terrifying. Welcome to America.
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Celexi posted:I don't want to know what weird place you live in that police follow you to check plates at night because that would be terrifying. It's Florida
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Cerv posted:any particular reason they don’t use cameras & automatic number plate recognition? my employer produces those, among other things. They're still expensive and require data access so many police forces have only a few car running with them at any given time.
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stolen vehicles arent even required to be entered https://tlets.dps.texas.gov/omnixx5/documents/NCIC.OP/Vehicle.htm ama about what the media calls 'police databases'
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MononcQc posted:my employer produces those, among other things. Pigs out of YOSPOS.
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Hackers release dump of a Police Database  
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Lutha Mahtin posted:lol the car2go rollout in chicago included actual benzes????? when they tried doing it here they only had dinky Smartsf Ze Germans had absolutely no idea how to run a car sharing service in NYC. They had original Smart cars with suspensions that felt like they were borrowed from bicycles, were throwing tire pressure warnings constantly, and lasted maybe 14 months before they were too beat to poo poo and had to be retired. They backhauled using EDGE modems that ran on T-Mobile, so you couldn't park in Greenpoint (this was in like 2015). The software ran on what felt like a 166 MHz processor coded by JS developers. There was a 1-2 second lag when you turned the volume knob. I found a used condom in cars on more than one occasion, most of the cars reeked of weed, and I think I found coke in them once. If you had an iPhone you couldn't use any of the Gen2 cars for like a month, so I would see a car outside my apartment, try to start it, get an error code thrown, then call customer service for a credit. I think I only paid for half the rides I took, ever. BMW's service was inexplicably called Reach
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DriveNow is the actually working service in Europe so probably didn’t wanna taint the name
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Americans can't have nice things.
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them zuck boys are at it again! https://twitter.com/robaeprice/status/1118668162378035200
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Chris Knight posted:them zuck boys are at it again! in two weeks it'll be 15 million
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Schadenboner posted:Pigs out of YOSPOS. go away
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pseudorandom posted:Hackers release dump of a Police Database
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Cerv posted:any particular reason they don’t use cameras & automatic number plate recognition? hi guys sorry i'm late two problems with these systems, the first is the one MononcQc pointed out about them being expensive and needing data plans and reliable uptime (never give tech to a patrolman), and the second is the horrific privacy issue you cause when you gather and aggregate personally-identifying information about people and their movements without an articulable purpose. Even if you aren't keeping the search data, the records of the queries are still held by the system and you can learn some entertaining things about people with access to those logs. Running plates randomly one at a time is usually okay because it's not like one patrolman can do them fast enough to create any kind of chilling effect, and in theory, a shitbird whose searches are demonstrably non-random (why are 90% of your searches new cars registered to black people) or clearly lack some purpose (dozens on dozens of searches with bullshit reasons like "asdfasdfasdf" with no ensuing traffic stops) will get picked up by the crime reader and bawled out even though in practice we all know this definitely isn't happening. If you're using ANPR then you may well create the opposite situation, where you're generating more hits than you can deal with and you're choosing which ones to discard, and we all know exactly what kinds of abuses follow from that fishmech posted:your hodgepodge of donutchuggers randomly picking cars to follow still ain't going to be an effective dragnet against stolen vehicles ding
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Celexi posted:I don't want to know what weird place you live in that police follow you to check plates at night because that would be terrifying. "terrifying literally everyone (but especially minorities)" is the primary goal of our police force here in florida, yes. i remember a while ago my psych told me one of her other patients had their apartment raided because their roommate was dealing drugs and the cops of course tore the entire place apart and destroyed everything, took all the money, jewelry and other valuables they found, took all the food out of the fridge and freezer and dumped it all over the floor, took specifically the underwear out of their drawers and threw it on the gross rotten food pile, then found a copy of the bible one of them had, highlighted some verse about about fearing and obeying the authorities and left it open to that page on the dining table meanwhile i call the cops on my upstairs neighbor getting loudly and clearly beat up by her douchebag boyfriend two different times and they don't show up for 3 hours  basically imagine the nic cage / werner herzog version of bad lieutenant except it's every cop and they're also really into jesus
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gently caress pigs
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necrotic posted:gently caress pigs but enough about British politics
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