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"On June 17, 2017, the President called McGahn at home and directed him to call the Acting Attorney General and say that the Special Counsel had conflicts of interest and must be removed. McGahn did not carry out the direction, however, deciding that he would resign rather than trigger what he regarded as a potential Saturday Night Massacre."
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https://twitter.com/josh_emerson/status/1118897764195348480 The bottom line is that Mueller is a cowardly piece of poo poo who didn't step up to the historical moment.
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coffeetable posted:well this is great in general, but Mulv comes after Mull There are only three name entries in the glossary that are totally redacted, here are the other two. I don't have good guesses on these, but that first might be Mnuchin. edit: I meant Mulvaney. 
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Gort posted:This stuff has gotta be prosecutable regardless of impeachment, though, right? oh, totally. problem is the jury's the united states senate, and well.
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Party Plane Jones posted:it does if you think that u is separate from Ü in alphabetical order The latter is often collated as "ue" so it would work.
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canepazzo posted:https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1118896790835736576 Need to add this to everyone dumb ”no collusion” meme forever.
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Pellisworth posted:There are only three name entries in the glossary that are totally redacted, here are the other two. I don't have good guesses on these, but that first might be Mnuchin. Mnuchin is literally listed above the redacted name
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mcmagic posted:https://twitter.com/josh_emerson/status/1118897764195348480 Yup. At a bare minimum, he should've announced the summary of the report himself, instead of letting Barr do his little coverup routine.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:"On June 17, 2017, the President called McGahn at home and directed him to call the Acting Attorney General and say that the Special Counsel had conflicts of interest and must be removed. McGahn did not carry out the direction, however, deciding that he would resign rather than trigger what he regarded as a potential Saturday Night Massacre." Oh yeah, I remember this. At the time McGahn also put out a whole bunch of stuff trying to cover his own rear end.
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mcmagic posted:https://twitter.com/josh_emerson/status/1118897764195348480 No republican wants to pull the trigger on another. They want someone else to do it so that they can displace the blame and feel better about.
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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:oh, totally. problem is the jury's the united states senate, and well. Is it? Is the president immune to state and federal prosecution?
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Obstruction works, so if Justice decides you can't punish the president for obstruction, he may as well obstruct: https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1118897406039461889
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CyberPingu posted:Mnuchin is literally listed above the redacted name typo, news happens fast, I meant Mulvaney assuming that umlaut-U is alphabetized after regular U which is something I've encountered, not sure what the style guide is here
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DaveWoo posted:Yup. At a bare minimum, he should've announced the summary of the report himself, instead of letting Barr do his little coverup routine. it turns out that absent the total cooperation of the DoJ in railroading some random muslim teenager Mueller's ability to draw conclusions takes a poo poo and dies who could have guessed
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1337JiveTurkey posted:The latter is often collated as "ue" so it would work. It could also be Mueller, Robert
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https://twitter.com/igorbobic/status/1118898470717403137 How the gently caress is this not obstruction?
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Gort posted:Is it? Is the president immune to state and federal prosecution? unsettled point of legal doctrine, that I guarantee you goes directly to the supreme court. ~guess how they're going to rule~
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lmao barr lied about all this, and every fragmentary quote he pulled out of context is exactly as bad in context as we thought they'd be i'm sure the victory lappers about how they were TOTALLY VINDICATED SUCK IT LIBS will apologize promptly
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:I'm pretty sure a first year law student could put a value on information in a Presidential campaign as more than $2000. Yeah, that's loving preposterous. But, republican cop.
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mcmagic posted:https://twitter.com/josh_emerson/status/1118897764195348480 yeah he definitely hosed up big time.
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eke out posted:lmao barr lied about all this, and every fragmentary quote he pulled out of context is exactly as bad in context as we thought they'd be https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1118899503829004288
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mcmagic posted:https://twitter.com/josh_emerson/status/1118897764195348480 This is a great juxtaposition to all the "totally exonerated" talk when the report was filed. e: also yeah, Mueller backed away when history called.
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Their strategy of framing the narrative just horribly backfired. The report is honestly juicier than I thought it would be so far, and that's with a ton of redactions still.
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ReidRansom posted:This is a great juxtaposition to all the "totally exonerated" talk when the report was filed. Mueller's cowardice or complicity (it's one or the other) is the reason that happened.
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mcmagic posted:https://twitter.com/josh_emerson/status/1118897764195348480 He isn't wrong though. He's saying that he isn't positive he could make a criminal case. If we lived in a functional society then the report would be taken up by Congress to begin impeachment proceedings, but here we are.
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eke out posted:lmao barr lied about all this, and every fragmentary quote he pulled out of context is exactly as bad in context as we thought they'd be i'd advise against partying too hard on that front, as the mechanics for doing anything about it still include the step "Beg Mitch McConnell to do something for the good of the country," but the Michael Traceys of the world are going to have a bad couple of days before the next stupid story breaks
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this is an orgy of terrible stuff, i can't even pick out what is the worst thing. Trump. Is. Done.
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Moreover, if I'm a mob boss, and I'm paying the prosecutor who decides not to prosecute me, how is that not further obstruction?
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axeil posted:this is an orgy of terrible stuff, i can't even pick out what is the worst thing. He's really not. Swing voters don't give a poo poo about any of this, Republicans have his back, and he has about a 50/50 shot of getting reelected.
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axeil posted:this is an orgy of terrible stuff, i can't even pick out what is the worst thing. No. He's not.
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Mind_Taker posted:Their strategy of framing the narrative just horribly backfired. The report is honestly juicier than I thought it would be so far, and that's with a ton of redactions still. What's mostly surprising me is that we already knew almost all of this to one degree or another, it's just a matter of it all being together in one place. There's not all that much here that's *new*.
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axeil posted:Trump. What's your logic here?
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Gort posted:Is it? Is the president immune to state and federal prosecution? The legal theory that gets batted around that the president is immune to federal prosecution always comes across to me as total bullshit but there are practical problems with federally prosecuting the president so it's understandable why no one wants to do it. State charges, OTOH...
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I do hope, and think maybe it's possible, that this will finally erode his support somewhat. This is all insanely bad and infuriating.
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why didn't barr redact more of this lmao. he looks even worse than he did this morning.
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