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QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

FogHelmut posted:

I just want a two hour movie of the Darth Vader scene in Rogue One. Just non stop intensity of a relentless Vader completely wrecking his way into a spaceship. Just give it the plot of The Raid: Redemption or whatever, who cares.

Or do like Alien: Isolation except Darth Vader is stalking around ready to ruin you.

Same

Some people in a different thread recommended the Darth Vader comic series made by Marvel, I got a chance to read them last month and they own. Some of them take place before A New Hope, some after. There's plenty of stupid poo poo but the focus is on Darth Vader being an intense unrelenting murderer

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Grammarchist
Jan 28, 2013

They're going to tease the Emperor coming back, only to hint that he was too old to survive falling into the core of an exploding space station. Then the orchestral music picks up and he dodders up a hill to be reunited with the storm troopers.

Comfy Fleece Sweater
Apr 2, 2013

You see, but you do not observe.

skasion posted:

this is bad faith argumentation basically. People got buttmad about Phantom Menace being not as good as their own idea of Star Wars and began to say things like “Lucas is an idiot/incompetent” and “Lucas’ movies were only good because of [other person conveniently not working on these movies]” and then started out looking at the other prequels in a way that would support these prejudices, instead of paying attention to what is shown on screen and trying to understand it.

Like, Padme’s death is LITERALLY explained in the dialogue. Palpatine tells Vader that he, Vader, killed her. She didn’t die of a “broken heart” (this phrase never appears in the movie; it’s just a joke based on Portman’s terrible delivery of the line “Anakin, you’re breaking my heart!!!!” earlier when he breaks her heart, a while before he kills her, which he does).

I haven't seen the movie in ages but, at the time, I thought it was implied that the Emperor killed her, and he was just blaming Vader to push him into the Dark Side even further

QuarkJets posted:

Same

Some people in a different thread recommended the Darth Vader comic series made by Marvel, I got a chance to read them last month and they own. Some of them take place before A New Hope, some after. There's plenty of stupid poo poo but the focus is on Darth Vader being an intense unrelenting murderer


It's very good for like 5 issues, then it slowly decreases in quality until in like issue 18 you realize you're reading the bullshit adventures of Dr. Jafra and her 2 sarcastic murder robots who are mirror dark side copies of Threepio and R2, and they're trying to turn Darth Vader into an anti-hero and then it's time to put it down for good

Comfy Fleece Sweater fucked around with this message at 06:43 on Apr 19, 2019

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:

It's very good for like 5 issues, then it slowly decreases in quality until in like issue 18 you realize you're reading the bullshit adventures of Dr. Jafra and her 2 sarcastic murder robots who are mirror dark side copies of Threepio and R2, and they're trying to turn Darth Vader into an anti-hero and then it's time to put it down for good

I felt like it oscillated between being great and not great, notably it was great when the action was focused on Vader

But that only applies to the older comic series; the newer comic series, which just finished, is better and is basically all Vader

Torquemada
Oct 21, 2010

Drei Gläser

Vim Fuego posted:

Ok, where does it say the emperor's name was Sheev? And, is it short for Sheeven?

nope what happened was, George, Brian DePalma and Francis Ford Coppola were in an Italian restaurant in 1975 and they were talking about George’s idea for a space movie. Francis says “But who’s the main bad guy Georgie?” they all lapse into thought, while at the next table Marty Scorsese offers Steven Spielberg a meatball with the now legendary “Steve, polpetine?” mystery solved.

Bistromatic
Oct 3, 2004

And turn the inner eye
To see its path...

Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:

I haven't seen the movie in ages but, at the time, I thought it was implied that the Emperor killed her, and he was just blaming Vader to push him into the Dark Side even further



It's very good for like 5 issues, then it slowly decreases in quality until in like issue 18 you realize you're reading the bullshit adventures of Dr. Jafra and her 2 sarcastic murder robots who are mirror dark side copies of Threepio and R2, and they're trying to turn Darth Vader into an anti-hero and then it's time to put it down for good

I haven't read the comics but i want the crazy archeologists ship for the x-wing miniatures game, it looks pretty cool.

Mooey Cow
Jan 27, 2018

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Pillbug

SciFiDownBeat posted:

I don't think you understand. The logical inconsistencies that people on the internet cite as what's "wrong" with the prequels--they aren't what makes them bad. A child destroying a large space cruiser single-handed in TPM, the clones arriving 10 minutes after the jedi in AOTC, how Padme actually dies in ROTS, it doesn't matter. Even if you logic them out, it doesn't change the fact that, from a filmmaking perspective, the prequel trilogy as a whole is sloppily written, weakly shot, and relies on a glut of CGI that aged poorly.

I think it is you who misunderstand. It is pointless to try to convince someone they should like a movie when they don't, but you can still point out when their criticisms are kind of weird (even if you don't particularly care for the movie).

KillerJunglist
May 22, 2007

Lion of Judah protect you, Jah be praised.
Was he ever called Palpatine in the original movies? I liked the movies when I was a kid but wasn't crazy about them and I thought his name was just The Emperor.

I also thought it was Obi One, Hand Solo and a light saver because I was like 4 when Jedi came out.

Gutcruncher
Apr 16, 2005

Go home and be a family man!

KillerJunglist posted:

Was he ever called Palpatine in the original movies? I liked the movies when I was a kid but wasn't crazy about them and I thought his name was just The Emperor.

I also thought it was Obi One, Hand Solo and a light saver because I was like 4 when Jedi came out.

Nope, just The Emperor. Also Anakin was only named in Return of the Jedi in a single line between Luke and Vader.

I thought it was Light Saver up until I played the Game Gear game and finally saw the word in writing.

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?
Anakin is first named earlier in Return when Luke is giving Ghost Ben poo poo.

He’s also named in the Emperor scene in Empire, but it’s one of the subtler special edition retcons — the og version just says “son of Skywalker” there.

Of course the name predates the character by quite a bit, “Annikin” was the name of the more-or-less Luke character in the early drafts.

a peck of pickled peckers
Aug 3, 2014

I am your Redeemer! It is by my hand that you arise from the ashes of this world!

Grammarchist posted:

They're going to tease the Emperor coming back, only to hint that he was too old to survive falling into the core of an exploding space station. Then the orchestral music picks up and he dodders up a hill to be reunited with the storm troopers.



gently caress you for making me cry in the stow wars thread

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost
i'm just so tired of all these homewards bound

Gaunab
Feb 13, 2012
LUFTHANSA YOU FUCKING DICKWEASEL

Linux Pirate posted:

your word play proves you are cool and do not care about car roars anymore

Car roars is what they call the fast and the furious franchise in china

Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon
Any-kin

RaySmuckles
Oct 14, 2009


:vapes:
Grimey Drawer

kid dresses like a tool

Cosmik Slop
Oct 9, 2007

What's a hole doing in my TARDIS?


Why the gently caress is Rey standing in the middle of a huge barren plain while (presumably) Kylo hauls rear end at her in a TIE fighter other than "let's make her do a sweet backflip"

God dammit I am tired of the Star Wars sucking so bad

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

Cosmik Slop posted:

Why the gently caress is Rey standing in the middle of a huge barren plain while (presumably) Kylo hauls rear end at her in a TIE fighter other than "let's make her do a sweet backflip"

God dammit I am tired of the Star Wars sucking so bad

I'm just kind of assuming that scene will be part of a dream/vision.

Although it's not and it's just literally "Kylo Ren tries to run down Rey with his TIE Fighter in the middle of a salt plain" then lol.

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?
So she can dramatically turn, and then dramatically turn the other way

literally a hog
Jan 5, 2006

Mandarrrrrk! Bring me the head of Dexter and Dee Dee shall forever be yours!

Cosmik Slop posted:

Why the gently caress is Rey standing in the middle of a huge barren plain while (presumably) Kylo hauls rear end at her in a TIE fighter other than "let's make her do a sweet backflip"

God dammit I am tired of the Star Wars sucking so bad

https://twitter.com/UnusualVideos/status/1118574778355372032

Applewhite
Aug 16, 2014

by vyelkin
Nap Ghost

skasion posted:

So she can dramatically turn, and then dramatically turn the other way

I think the running is what ruins it. If she just stayed still until the last second, then did like a crouch and swing to slice the whole spaceship in half in a single stroke, then launched straight into a lightsaber duel with Kylo as he leaps from the two dividing halves of the spaceship, I might be like "ok that was p. cool."

Applewhite
Aug 16, 2014

by vyelkin
Nap Ghost
I hope the shot of the chunk of Death Star is a scene from Endor and that all the Ewoks died from a months-long rain of Death Star debris.

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?

Applewhite posted:

I think the running is what ruins it. If she just stayed still until the last second, then did like a crouch and swing to slice the whole spaceship in half in a single stroke, then launched straight into a lightsaber duel with Kylo as he leaps from the two dividing halves of the spaceship, I might be like "ok that was p. cool."

Phantom Menace did it first

Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon
Death star ruins inhabited by mad mutant ewoks wearing scraps of storm trooper uniforms.

Applewhite
Aug 16, 2014

by vyelkin
Nap Ghost

skasion posted:

Phantom Menace did it first

Oh. Well gently caress it then.

Applewhite
Aug 16, 2014

by vyelkin
Nap Ghost

Colonel Cancer posted:

Death star ruins inhabited by mad mutant ewoks wearing scraps of storm trooper uniforms.

See that would be pretty cool.

WatermelonGun
May 7, 2009
She’s literally running from her destiny.

a peck of pickled peckers
Aug 3, 2014

I am your Redeemer! It is by my hand that you arise from the ashes of this world!

The Death Star ruins are just going to be a big old product placement thing for the new theme park. Rey and Co. are going to walk into it and find themselves in Orlando or California or wherever Disney is. Oooh what are these strange aliens?? They’re obese white Americans.

Applewhite
Aug 16, 2014

by vyelkin
Nap Ghost

a peck of pickled peckers posted:

The Death Star ruins are just going to be a big old product placement thing for the new theme park. Rey and Co. are going to walk into it and find themselves in Orlando or California or wherever Disney is. Oooh what are these strange aliens?? They’re obese white Americans.

We defeated the evil empire, and it was all thanks to Hostess Fruit Pies!

Comfy Fleece Sweater
Apr 2, 2013

You see, but you do not observe.

Cosmik Slop posted:

Why the gently caress is Rey standing in the middle of a huge barren plain while (presumably) Kylo hauls rear end at her in a TIE fighter other than "let's make her do a sweet backflip"

God dammit I am tired of the Star Wars sucking so bad

Sounds like you’ll have to tune in to find out!!!

Applewhite posted:

I think the running is what ruins it. If she just stayed still until the last second, then did like a crouch and swing to slice the whole spaceship in half in a single stroke, then launched straight into a lightsaber duel with Kylo as he leaps from the two dividing halves of the spaceship, I might be like "ok that was p. cool."

Yeah, unfortunately she’s one of those funny runners, like Steven Segal.

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....

FogHelmut posted:

I just want a two hour movie of the Darth Vader scene in Rogue One. Just non stop intensity of a relentless Vader completely wrecking his way into a spaceship. Just give it the plot of The Raid: Redemption or whatever, who cares.

Or do like Alien: Isolation except Darth Vader is stalking around ready to ruin you.

I think the Marvel comics from the 70/80s did something like this? Just him moving slowly and taking out rebels left and right like a horror movie villain.

Mooey Cow
Jan 27, 2018

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Pillbug
Someone saw some similarities between the TIE chase and the cropduster scene from North by Northwest. Sadly Cary Grant never backflipped over a plane :sigh:

Leon Einstein
Feb 6, 2012
I must win every thread in GBS. I don't care how much banal semantic quibbling and shitty posts it takes.
She could just lay on the ground instead of jumping.

Comfy Fleece Sweater
Apr 2, 2013

You see, but you do not observe.

Mooey Cow posted:

Someone saw some similarities between the TIE chase and the cropduster scene from North by Northwest. Sadly Cary Grant never backflipped over a plane :sigh:

Well of course, as a great connoisseur of cinema, I’ve noticed lots of references to great works in Star War

Like when the emperor looks out a window, that’s a ref to Rear Window

And when the spaceship has technical problems, that’s a reference to Nightmare at 20,000 feet

If you read CineD you’d know all these things and more

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?

Leon Einstein posted:

She could just lay on the ground instead of jumping.

Phantom Menace did that too

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?

Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:

Well of course, as a great connoisseur of cinema, I’ve noticed lots of references to great works in Star War

Like when the emperor looks out a window, that’s a ref to Rear Window

And when the spaceship has technical problems, that’s a reference to Nightmare at 20,000 feet

If you read CineD you’d know all these things and more

Moreover, all of Star Wars and its fandom is a reference to that one bit in The Hidden Fortress where Peasant R2D2 tells Peasant C3PO “shitworms can’t smell poo poo”

Torquemada
Oct 21, 2010

Drei Gläser

skasion posted:

So she can dramatically turn, and then dramatically turn the other way

It’s a visual mess, she turns around like 4 times and pointlessly runs away.

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
I just don't get why it's so hard to make a good movie about space wizards, laser swords, and star wars. Like you really almost have to be trying to mess those elements up.

Comfy Fleece Sweater
Apr 2, 2013

You see, but you do not observe.

skasion posted:

Moreover, all of Star Wars and its fandom is a reference to that one bit in The Hidden Fortress where Peasant R2D2 tells Peasant C3PO “shitworms can’t smell poo poo”

Never heard of it

Mooey Cow
Jan 27, 2018

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Pillbug

Leon Einstein posted:

She could just lay on the ground instead of jumping.

No, she would get shot at, then the TIE would cover her in pesticide if she tries hiding in the crop (moisture).

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Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Torquemada posted:

It’s a visual mess, she turns around like 4 times and pointlessly runs away.

The "quick cuts" to try and show immediacy/action/suspense are getting out of hand.

Watch any Chinese show/movie with a romantic scene in it where the two main love interests reconcile, run up to each other, and then embrace. I've counted up to 5 difference camera cuts in less than 2 seconds of initiating a hug. If your 2h+ movie has more than 4 instances of a shot lasting less than 2 seconds, then you're directing/editing wrong.

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