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Gologle posted:A thought occurred to me. FF7, and a little bit more elaborately Advent Children, suggests that because Sephiroth is essentially Jenova's child, and also because he's a crazy rear end in a top hat, but mostly because of the whole "part eldritch Parasite Eve", he is removed from the Lifestream entirely and literally cannot join it, and can come back to the living world by whatever bullshit. So does that mean Sephiroth will eventually win? Cus Cloud and the rest of the FF7 crew aren't going to be around forever, 500 years later the only one we see left is Nanaki. I'm sure Bahamut and the Summon Gang can create a convoluted plot making the FF7 crew and their descendants a sort of "Knights of the Round" and slash Sephiroth into oblivion two thousand years in the future.
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ImpAtom posted:It also has what I genuinely feel is the strongest ending in a FF game, not in the least because The Price of Freedom is probably in my top 3 Final Fantasy songs period. I have essentially zero experience with Crisis Core, but I have played Theatrhythm, and if that's the song I think it is I'd have to agree that it is a fuckin' jam.
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Apr 21, 2019 01:22
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In "FFs I'm enjoying much more than I thought I would" news, XI is proving to be quite chill and fun in an oldschool MMO way now that I've hooked a controller up to it.
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Apr 21, 2019 02:28
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Origin posted:I'm sure Bahamut and the Summon Gang can create a convoluted plot making the FF7 crew and their descendants a sort of "Knights of the Round" and slash Sephiroth into oblivion two thousand years in the future. I'm sad, because this is secretly a super good post that nobody else in this thread will get. Also on FF7, that video shown earlier does a good job of showing that even though the EU and fandom have mangled the original characterization of everybody in the cast to shreds, they actually pretty much consistently nailed Sephiroth being a crazy jerk. That insight into his relationship with Cloud being aloof and godly, chummy and friendly, snide and mocking, all at the same time is a great detail.
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Apr 21, 2019 02:40
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Ibblebibble posted:In "FFs I'm enjoying much more than I thought I would" news, XI is proving to be quite chill and fun in an oldschool MMO way now that I've hooked a controller up to it. Chill is like the absolute last word id ever use to describe FFXI but I last played it a decade ago so ive no idea if it changed.
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Apr 21, 2019 03:58
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Cait Sith is a robot but sentient and Reeve controls it with magic or something. It’s that classic Final Fantasy “this is stupid as gently caress” feeling.
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Apr 21, 2019 04:15
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the giant moogle doll is a robot with a radio on it. but cait sith is real
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Apr 21, 2019 04:19
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Barudak posted:Chill is like the absolute last word id ever use to describe FFXI but I last played it a decade ago so ive no idea if it changed. Modern FFXI with the trusts and everything has proven to be one of the most relaxing game experiences in recent memory for me. Highly recommend you check it out, the free trial's really non-restrictive.
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Apr 21, 2019 04:43
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jokes posted:Modern FFXI with the trusts and everything has proven to be one of the most relaxing game experiences in recent memory for me. Highly recommend you check it out, the free trial's really non-restrictive. Im not going back, since a non-abusive version of the game already exists for me, FFXIV and my memories of 11 are of grinding on a beach for an hour then seeing "level down" undoing that hour
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Apr 21, 2019 04:45
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Oh man if you check it out you're in for a treat my man. It's not at all the same game as it used to be, which was an absolute nightmare. You don't lose experience when you die until 30 and even then you only lose like 5% or something super miniscule which matters very little because you get absurd amounts of XP for doing random poo poo through challenge log equivalents, all monster kill XP is doubled or tripled or whatever (and you get EXP rings that give you shitloads of bonus EXP). You also are basically given a reraise ring, a warp ring that recharges every 10 minutes to your home point, and an exp ring when you start. It takes about an hour to get to level 25 if you know what you're doing. Other things: there's a whole teleportation system so you don't need to hoof it everywhere, you don't need to spend 2 months raising your chocobo to get a mount they just give you a mount at 20 (or maybe 30 I think). You can get refresh/regen/reraise/haste buffs for an hour at any outpost. They have this thing called records of eminence and it's basically like the challenge log from FFXIV but way more fleshed out. It'll be like "sit and heal 100 HP" or "kill 10 creatures in Ronfaure" and you get 1500 XP and 1000 special tokens to spend on level-appropriate gear that each cost like 15 tokens so you get a full set for like 200 tokens. It's a really, really chill experience now and if you liked or enjoyed or even just played FFXI at all back in the day you should take a look at least through the free trial.
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Rirse posted:Man FF2, why do I have to lose Leila, she went from only having 240 HP when I first got her to having 2000 HP. Wish she was the final fourth party member instead of Leon. Her replacement Richard joined at 550 HP...which is not a good trade off. FF2 is full of great ideas and vibes marred by completely assinine game design decisions It's my favorite final fantasy that I'll never ever play again
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Apr 21, 2019 05:04
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My favorite bit about Crisis Core was the fact that it also had backstory for the Buster Sword. That basic bitch starter weapon you drop forever the second you can steal a Hardedge. "Oh my husband went so into debt getting this sword made he worked himself to death." Lady a Mythril Saber costs 1,000 gil in Kalm, I think your husband got ripped off.
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Apr 21, 2019 05:16
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Well this is embarrassing but I used to run a huge FFX2 fansite back when it came out, but I never actually played it. I'm finally getting around to it. Any good beginner need to know things? Doing the HD remaster.
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Apr 21, 2019 05:31
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pretty soft girl posted:FF2 is full of great ideas and vibes marred by completely assinine game design decisions Yeah II has been a lot more enjoyable then the Origin version, but there is some stuff I really wish were iron out in the GBA/PSP version like the dungeons. I get lost in them so much and enemy encounter rate is so high at times. That said outside of babysitting the new fourth slot person and readjusting Maria to have actual good HP growth, I haven't had to do any micro managing with the character growths. I am about to enter the Cyclone, with Firion and Maria around 1600 HP while fricking Guy is at 3200 HP because he takes almost every hit, while Richard been readjusted to 1200 one dungeon.
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Apr 21, 2019 05:39
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AFStealth posted:Well this is embarrassing but I used to run a huge FFX2 fansite back when it came out, but I never actually played it. I'm finally getting around to it. Any good beginner need to know things? Doing the HD remaster. just have fun. don't try to get 100%. there are few wrong ways to play
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Apr 21, 2019 06:27
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i think they should remake ff5 on the switch with a fancy new 2d art style instead of making these setsuna or octopath games or hideous phone ports
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Apr 21, 2019 07:18
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jokes posted:It's a really, really chill experience now and if you liked or enjoyed or even just played FFXI at all back in the day you should take a look at least through the free trial.
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Apr 21, 2019 08:58
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Super No Vacancy posted:i think they should remake ff5 on the switch with a fancy new 2d art style instead of making these setsuna or octopath games or hideous phone ports I mean, same, but its never happening this decade at minimum.
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Super No Vacancy posted:i think they should remake ff5 on the switch with a fancy new 2d art style instead of making these setsuna or octopath games or hideous phone ports Fun fact: It sort of almost happened, which is what led to Bravely Default. The same team behind FFIII DS and FFIV DS were going to do a similar version of FFV, but I think wanted a project with a bit more creativity, which led to The Four Warriors of Light--and then Bravely Default, which you'll recognize as having a lot of familiar concepts from FFV in particular because they still had some work from that, and also because there's a lot of respect for 5 in Square-Enix's development. That development team made Octopath, and at one point before its release they said that it was as much inspired by FFVI as the Bravely series was inspired by V.
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Cleretic posted:That development team made Octopath, and at one point before its release they said that it was as much inspired by FFVI as the Bravely series was inspired by V. Which makes no sense, because there’s no real similarities between Octopath and FF6 beyond both being jRPGs and having ensemble casts. Octopath is more part SaGa/LoM but with a traditional battle system loosely based on 4WoL/BD.
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I... honestly could sort of see it, if you take the structure of the World of Ruin part of FF6? But yeah, for most people versed with JRPGs, the inspiration for the structure is going to remind them more of SaGa (it did to me too).
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Merilan posted:I... honestly could sort of see it, if you take the structure of the World of Ruin part of FF6? But yeah, for most people versed with JRPGs, the inspiration for the structure is going to remind them more of SaGa (it did to me too). I can see a little more of it when you mix the WoR structure with the branching stories from the World of Balance. I don't really know exactly what roads their brains went down, though.
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Mega64 posted:Which makes no sense, because there’s no real similarities between Octopath and FF6 beyond both being jRPGs and having ensemble casts. Octopath is more part SaGa/LoM but with a traditional battle system loosely based on 4WoL/BD. I feel like in some interviews and dev stuff, it was mostly the art/music aspects of a clean and polished SNES game that they were aiming for in Octopath. Which is kind of generic and loose as far as comparisons go, but makes a little more sense than the battle system/plot progression stuff.
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The White Dragon posted:the giant moogle doll is a robot with a radio on it. but cait sith is real I always thought it was pretty dumb that his “death” when he blows up the temple or whatever was handled with more emotional impact than Aeris getting run through. That was basically “oh well, she’s dead forever. Hope she wasn’t a vital part of your team or anything”
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Tall Tale Teller posted:I always thought it was pretty dumb that his “death” when he blows up the temple or whatever was handled with more emotional impact than Aeris getting run through. That was basically “oh well, she’s dead forever. Hope she wasn’t a vital part of your team or anything” what
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That is one of the dumbest takes I've ever read in this thread or the last, and trust me, the last thread was really dumb.
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do none of you remember the CGI cutscene of Cloud making a memorial for Cait Sith at the Temple of the Ancients, shedding a single tear as he walks away?
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Apr 21, 2019 15:39
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Cait Sith II might be my absolute favorite single moment in all of FFVII, and it hurts that I don't think we can ever get a moment like that again. Including in the remake, there's no chance they're going to do that justice.
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Apr 21, 2019 15:52
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I think Cait Sith II was there to fool the player into going "oh it a fakeout party member death like the twins, Yang, or Cid in IV" then Aeris dies and does not come back.
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Apr 21, 2019 17:27
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Yeah his anti-climatic return is the point.
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DACK FAYDEN posted:how big is the free trial and also do they still occasionally run the "we'll dust off your old character for you" campaigns cause my blm75 could use a walkabout 14 days, you can get any job up to level 50, all things are unlockable that are in the original game (so RNG, DRK, PLD, BRD, SMN, BST). No restrictions on zones, you can have 100k gil max, no AH, uhhh, probably some other poo poo. No restrictions on missions/quests and poo poo I believe. http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/crs/ Is the reactivation thing but I didn't use it I just went into it like a new character.
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It’s a dumb moment for a dumb character. Why have him at all? Just make him Reeve or whoever he was full time. The real serious bummer about Aeris dying is that she’s the only character in that game who isn’t tits, an edge lord, a muppet or a stereotype.
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Apr 21, 2019 18:13
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Tall Tale Teller posted:I always thought it was pretty dumb that his “death” when he blows up the temple or whatever was handled with more emotional impact than Aeris getting run through. That was basically “oh well, she’s dead forever. Hope she wasn’t a vital part of your team or anything” LOL no it wasn't.
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Apr 21, 2019 18:21
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Tall Tale Teller posted:It’s a dumb moment for a dumb character. Why have him at all? Just make him Reeve or whoever he was full time. Yeah you don’t actually remember anything about VII.
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Apr 21, 2019 18:45
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i loved cait sith as a kid, and hell, i love him now.
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Apr 21, 2019 18:54
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RevolverDivider posted:Yeah you don’t actually remember anything about VII. I remember that Aeris is the only character who isn’t wack.
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Apr 21, 2019 19:00
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Tall Tale Teller posted:tits, an edge lord, a muppet or a stereotype. 
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The only real bummer about Aeris' death was that she was my girlfriend, and strong, and real
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the best part about Aeris' death is that 9 year old me didn't know about elements but put the water ring on before the fight with jenova anyway and thought that Cloud was invincible for plot reasons because he was SUPER UPSET about aeris' death in that battle
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Countblanc posted:i loved cait sith as a kid, and hell, i love him now. cait sith is cool but his limit breaks suck so i won't use him
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