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Dammerung posted:I guess it's easier to trust the American people to make a judgment when you can manipulate whose voices are actually heard. I think we have a real good chance at ousting Hoyer. This isn't a Florida situation, the district is resoundly leftist, but Hoyer hasn't had a challenger in recent memory so they haven't really had a loving choice. Also it is hard for progressives to get off the ground when the centrists pull bullshit like this: https://theintercept.com/2018/04/26/steny-hoyer-audio-levi-tillemann/
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Apr 24, 2019 13:58
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Jesus christ Around Whites, Protect Your Rights.
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Apr 24, 2019 13:59
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friendbot2000 posted:https://twitter.com/PoliticsWolf/status/1119022656840278018 Some context for non-MD people. Districts only look like this to secure Hoyer/etc seats 
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Apr 24, 2019 13:59
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alpha_destroy posted:I don't think they meant mandatory military service. Hasn't this conversation been going on for more than 24 hours now? Yep. And we’re at the point where people are coming in and responding to other people’s responses without actually reading the whole conversation and now we’re playing telephone. Raenir Salazar posted:I think a mandatory civil service could be good and implemented well and have positive societal effects long term regardless of background. No. Nope. How about healthcare is a right and we don’t tie whether you get your transition paid for to years of indentured work wtf. Like, I helped start this whole “civil service” derail yesterday and I’m all for it but this specific paragraph is just all kinds of wrong.
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Apr 24, 2019 14:00
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Retro42 posted:Some context for non-MD people. Districts only look like this to secure Hoyer/etc seats There's little enthusiasm for his progressive opponent. Seems very hard to get rid of him.
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Apr 24, 2019 14:01
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So how long till GOP unironically propose that wealth should = more votes?
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Apr 24, 2019 14:03
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Mandatory civil service, like a jobs guarantee or a UBI, is the kind of thing that needs to be implemented properly if you don't want it to just lead to some kind of dystopian hellscape. A program that has people digging ditches or doing busywork is inherently regressive, because for anyone who isn't fairly wealthy to begin with you're just stealing time that they need to develop actual skills that will help them get a real job. Government-provided jobs (mandatory or not) need to provide relevant skills and training so that they aren't just a black hole on the resume of poor kids.
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Apr 24, 2019 14:03
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If President Trump just shut up about Mueller I'm pretty sure everybody would as well. He already told the Dems to shove it including everybody they told to stand before them.
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Apr 24, 2019 14:03
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Nonsense posted:There's little enthusiasm for his progressive opponent. Seems very hard to get rid of him. I mean the context for HoyerChat is that she hit her fundraising target but I guess that requires reading the previous page 
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Apr 24, 2019 14:04
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Ate My Balls Redux posted:It's possible, I read it as the Draft You read it wrong, since over 24h ago the conversation moved on to mandatory service of some kind, typically civil.
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Apr 24, 2019 14:04
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Nocturtle posted:Frankly millenials are going to be there as well. We can't imagine right now how angry future generations are going to be at anyone who had any agency from the early 2000s onward. Whining that the electoral system was stacked in favor of the status quo is not going to get much sympathy during the upcoming great migration and food crises, much less complaining that you had to rent because you couldn't afford a downpayment for a house. Having agency isn't the same as having power. Really if you look back wanting millenial aged people to have stopped everything before it got out of hand, you're just skirting around saying what you really mean, which is that the youth circa 2006 should have just done armed revolt with no hope of success to maybe shift opinion. Why didn't you die instead of us. Why Die For Gen-Zig
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Apr 24, 2019 14:04
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Nonsense posted:I want to thank this binch for this Weird thing to thank her for, since she was just worried that Bernie wanted to send her and her family to a gulag. Unless we're showing footage of the bombing because that's what Socialism is.
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Apr 24, 2019 14:05
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Nonsense posted:There's little enthusiasm for his progressive opponent. Seems very hard to get rid of him. It's still early. Also, UMD is right there in the middle of his district, so you got lotsa college students to radicalize and get out there and vote. Breakdown of his district according to Wikipedia: Ethnicity: 60.2% White; 30.3% Black; 3.7% Asian; 3.5% Hispanic; 0.1% Native American
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Apr 24, 2019 14:05
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https://twitter.com/JesseRodriguez/status/1121036484964966403 This has just been greenlit.
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Apr 24, 2019 14:06
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friendbot2000 posted:I think we have a real good chance at ousting Hoyer. This isn't a Florida situation, the district is resoundly leftist, but Hoyer hasn't had a challenger in recent memory so they haven't really had a loving choice. Also it is hard for progressives to get off the ground when the centrists pull bullshit like this: https://theintercept.com/2018/04/26/steny-hoyer-audio-levi-tillemann/ Holy poo poo, that's egregious. And chance or no chance, trying to do something is much better than rolling over and taking it. I hope that the effort that you and those who volunteer with you for Mckayla Wilkes are successful, she seems like she'd be great!
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Apr 24, 2019 14:06
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This is, literally, the Aryan viewpoint. "Well, you see, we are better human being that you so we should be in charge. No, you don't get a say in what happens to you, you are too inferior to be a proper judge."
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Apr 24, 2019 14:06
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friendbot2000 posted:It's still early. Also, UMD is right there in the middle of his district, so you got lotsa college students to radicalize and get out there and vote. Kicking him out of the House would be narrative changing, hope it happens.
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Apr 24, 2019 14:07
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More low IQ than high IQ.... They....they know how IQ tests use a bell curve and standard deviation to work, right?
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Apr 24, 2019 14:09
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Paradoxish posted:Government-provided jobs need to provide relevant skills and training so that they aren't just a black hole on the resume of poor kids. They aren't that right now; they're quite the opposite.
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Apr 24, 2019 14:13
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Nonsense posted:There's little enthusiasm for his progressive opponent. Seems very hard to get rid of him. She just hit her 1Q goal. Maybe keep the jury out on whether there's enthusiasm until the end of Q2.
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Apr 24, 2019 14:13
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Dammerung posted:Holy poo poo, that's egregious. And chance or no chance, trying to do something is much better than rolling over and taking it. I hope that the effort that you and those who volunteer with you for Mckayla Wilkes are successful, she seems like she'd be great! Yeah, I just stumbled across her and now I am in whole hog because getting rid of him would be a huge get. She already got her first fundraising goal of 25K with the average donation being 24$. She just has to really hit it out of the park with debating this moron and getting her ground game going. Hoyer is old, lazy, and complacent. The Republicans aren't going to field anyone who stands a chance and he feels secure in the fact that the DCCC is blacklisting any vendor that does work for people primarying incumbents. So it is really going to come down to passionate regular people putting in their time and money. I think she can drive people to the primary polls and its still early so we got time to get the momentum building, but everyone has to pitch in and help where they can. Because: Nonsense posted:Kicking him out of the House would be narrative changing, hope it happens. This. Kicking Hoyer out would be game-changing. It would send an even clearer message that Progressives will not be ignored and that all centrists have targets on their backs. If you want to donate to Mckayla Wilkes, here is a link: https://secure.actblue.com/donate/-mckaylaforcongress-1
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Apr 24, 2019 14:16
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i am harry posted:They aren't that right now; they're quite the opposite. I'm not talking about literally working for the government, I'm talking about universal government jobs programs. There's a huge difference.
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Apr 24, 2019 14:17
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Retro42 posted:Some context for non-MD people. Districts only look like this to secure Hoyer/etc seats They were also gerrymandered to (successfully) get rid of a safe Republican seat in the western panhandle. Note the 6th district swooping down to claim a big chunk of progressive Montgomery County, in the DC suburbs.
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Apr 24, 2019 14:17
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Electric Bugaloo posted:Yep. And we’re at the point where people are coming in and responding to other people’s responses without actually reading the whole conversation and now we’re playing telephone. I think there's a misunderstanding here; I wasn't sure if even under UHC if gender confirmation surgery is covered 100% or not; just googled my province's policy on it, it seems like in Canada the healthcare system does provide funding, so it's a question as to whether it (UHC in the US) would realistically provide 100% of the cost. If M4A or UHC/SP doesn't provide 100% then a mandatory service that provides the remaining % whatever it may be wouldn't be bad. Basically I'm not assuming that an implementation of mandatory service means there is ALSO UHC or UHC means a Mandatory Service or a Mandatory Service will eventually result in UHC? If healthcare basically isn't already a right, or doesn't 100% provide coverage basically; there is nothing wrong with my paragraph here in context that my suggestion isn't being made assuming every other progressive proposal has been implemented (yet). Also based on googling you need like in some systems, 12 months living as your preferred gender working with a doctor etc; so it could be super convenient, especially coming out of highschool or during; to have that 12 month period (if it's the norm) happen during your Service with regular updates/meetings with a qualified healthcare professional while performing your service in a role/track specifically suited for you; i.e you're located somewhere people aren't going to be judgemental or dangerous towards you. The point is, there could definitely be a way in which a mandatory service could be a huge benefit socially for trans individuals, much like how Integration in the Army made America less racist, it could make America less transphobic.
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Apr 24, 2019 14:20
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Nonsense posted:I want to thank this binch for this That was a different question asker.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Jesus christ Jealous Cow posted:https://twitter.com/AndrewPaulJoyce/status/1120383159890325511 You can't convince me this isn't the same guy. Christian Whiton my rear end
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Apr 24, 2019 14:25
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Hiring white people to just show up and have the honkiest names ever while they spout your racisms. Reginald P Linux Jessie McJesus Tronald Dump
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Apr 24, 2019 14:28
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Crabtree posted:Hiring white people to just show up and have the honkiest names ever while they spout your racisms. You forgot John Miller
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Apr 24, 2019 14:29
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Nonsense posted:There's little enthusiasm for his progressive opponent.
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Zophar posted:More low IQ than high IQ.... Generous of you to assume that they know what a bell curve or standard deviation is at all. They almost certainly have no idea how IQ measurement works besides an online test once told them they were 131 and they know that's smart.
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Apr 24, 2019 14:35
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Crabtree posted:Hiring white people to just show up and have the honkiest names ever while they spout your racisms. Reince Priebus
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Apr 24, 2019 14:37
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Paradoxish posted:I'm not talking about literally working for the government, I'm talking about universal government jobs programs. There's a huge difference. I don’t understand why there would need to be a huge difference between something that exists and something that is currently fantasy.
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Apr 24, 2019 14:38
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Breaking: Trump is a moron
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Darkly hilarious in the context that he's spent the last two years making GBS threads on the courts.
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Apr 24, 2019 14:39
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friendbot2000 posted:It's official I am going to drive an hour away from my house to volunteer for Mckayla Wilkes. I loving HATE HIS poo poo. Unions work. Collective bargaining works. Strikes work. Medicare for All is a unionization of all Americans needing healthcare. It should be framed as this because this is how it works; cost of care goes down when 350million citizens together say, “No, insulin is worth $20, not $200, and if you don’t take our $20 you get NOTHING.”
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I think this is a valuable and much needed lawsuit. Do it. Any Justice who votes for Donny's moronic argument must then be Impeached for gross incompetence, and run out of DC on a rail.
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i am harry posted:I don’t understand why there would need to be a huge difference between something that exists and something that is currently fantasy. I honestly can't tell if this is sarcasm or not. Like, yeah, there's a massive difference between anything that currently exists and a massive mandatory civil service program for every 18 year old in the country. AmeriCorps/Peace Corps are the closest thing we have, and those aren't in the ballpark. Less than a million people have served in AmeriCorps over the last twenty-five years. The scale isn't even remotely comparable. Also, one of the main advantages of being a PCV is that you're basically part of a pretty exclusive public service club and that entire benefit goes out the window when everyone is doing it. A mandatory civil service program would need a whole lot more thought than just scaling up public service programs that already exist. Paradoxish fucked around with this message at 14:45 on Apr 24, 2019 |
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