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Endorph posted:billionaires arent people, qed 
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Zore posted:He also killed a bunch of people on screen He explicitly murders you on-screen.
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Apr 24, 2019 19:11
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Pablo Nergigante posted:Wasn't the shogi girl originally going to be another party member. Interesting that they did a whole new character instead of bringing that idea back The problem with that is Hifumi's original bit was that of the team strategist, but when Atlus decided they needed to cut back they just took all that and folded it into Makoto. So it's not as simple as brushing off the old plan now that they've got the time to implement her - they'd either have to completely rewrite Makoto's role in the PT's to make room for Hifumi, or they'd have to give Hifumi an entirely new bit that wouldn't make her feel superfluous.
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Endorph posted:billionaires arent people, qed I didn't know billionaires were the only people who took the train in Japan.
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Geostomp posted:He explicitly murders you on-screen.
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Apr 24, 2019 19:12
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Geostomp posted:He explicitly murders you on-screen. unsuccessfully! one time!
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Zore posted:I didn't know billionaires were the only people who took the train in Japan. that's the 'off-screen' i was referring to the train thing is almost immediately dropped and never given any weight whatsoever in the plot, of course people dont care about it at all. it's fiction. people unironically care more about the special takoyaki than the train because the special takoyaki is actually built up and you can see haru's disappointment when she doesnt get to eat it.
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Apr 24, 2019 19:12
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People get horny for the bad guy in the new Star Wars movies who blows up populated planets in the first one, people getting horny for the brooding bad boy villain is not new at all
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Apr 24, 2019 19:14
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Akechi is anime Ted Bundy.
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Apr 24, 2019 19:15
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Unironic lovers of "We live in a society Bottom text" memes.
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Apr 24, 2019 19:16
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Bishounen anime bad boy gets huge fandom despite being nothing but a piece of poo poo onscreen. In other news,
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Apr 24, 2019 19:17
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and furthermore, why dont females date nice guys like me
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Apr 24, 2019 19:18
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Sydin posted:Bishounen anime bad boy gets huge fandom despite being nothing but a piece of poo poo onscreen. In other news, I can't fault this kind of thing, I will root for Vegeta over Goku any day even though he's a horrible piece of poo poo before Bulma puts a leash on him
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Apr 24, 2019 19:18
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akechi's characterization was the closest atlus came to incisive social commentary outside of the kamoshida arc, even if they probably did it by accident
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Apr 24, 2019 19:20
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And also just, if you're approaching things from a fanwork perspective, stuff involving Akechi would have actual like, conflict and tension and intrigue, which is more than you can say for most any other character in Persona 5 because they're all really boring
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Apr 24, 2019 19:21
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Akechi isn’t real so there’s really no issue with him having fans except that Atlus will now shoehorn him into everything. but that means the games are slightly more annoying now. At least he has a better k/d ratio than say Adachi.
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Apr 24, 2019 19:22
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Sydin posted:The problem with that is Hifumi's original bit was that of the team strategist, but when Atlus decided they needed to cut back they just took all that and folded it into Makoto. So it's not as simple as brushing off the old plan now that they've got the time to implement her - they'd either have to completely rewrite Makoto's role in the PT's to make room for Hifumi, or they'd have to give Hifumi an entirely new bit that wouldn't make her feel superfluous.
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Apr 24, 2019 19:22
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my joker/makoto coffeeshop au where makoto comes in every day to read the newspaper, click her tongue, and go 'you know, im not saying they SHOULD have shot him, just that when you're being detained by police you shouldn't resist'
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Apr 24, 2019 19:22
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I hope P5R changes Makoto's story so that she doesn't want to be a cop
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Apr 24, 2019 19:24
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Electric Phantasm posted:Is anyone opposed to getting rid of the framing device/the interrogation scenes? It would cut like 20% of my enjoyment. Being reminded of the framing device after spending a few hours trying to maximize my burger intake was fun.
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Apr 24, 2019 19:24
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Endorph posted:And also just, if you're approaching things from a fanwork perspective, stuff involving Akechi would have actual like, conflict and tension and intrigue, which is more than you can say for most any other character in Persona 5 because they're all really boring Haru is actually really good so it's great she's the character Atlus chose to cram into the last 1/5th of the game.
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Apr 24, 2019 19:25
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Macaluso posted:I hope P5R changes Makoto's story so that she doesn't want to be a cop This
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Apr 24, 2019 19:26
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I hated this poo poo in P4 and I'll hate it again in P5
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Apr 24, 2019 19:27
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Macaluso posted:I hope P5R changes Makoto's story so that she doesn't want to be a cop this and also that her social link actually has anything to do with her instead of being 90% about her friend who is dating a yakuza guy from a host club
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Apr 24, 2019 19:28
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Sydin posted:Haru is actually really good so it's great she's the character Atlus chose to cram into the last 1/5th of the game.
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Apr 24, 2019 19:28
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DLC Inc posted:I hated this poo poo in P4 and I'll hate it again in P5 Teddie was hilarious, though. Morgana is nothing but an annoying creep
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Apr 24, 2019 19:28
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Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:i'm still amused at makoto being labelled team strategist given how her planning goes (e.g. how she became a member to begin with), and that futaba fits the role more accurately (e.g. the entire near end-game twist) To be fair, she basically takes over as leader after she joins. Joker's silent protagonist nature means he'll mostly follow whatever she says and only control the crew in the Metaverse. Macaluso posted:I hope P5R changes Makoto's story so that she doesn't want to be a cop Isn't one of her big goals to eventually clean up the cops after seeing how gleefully corrupt they were with Shido in power?
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Apr 24, 2019 19:29
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Xad posted:Teddie was hilarious, though. Teddie was probably a bigger creep than Morgana tbh. Though they're both way up there. quote:Isn't one of her big goals to eventually clean up the cops after seeing how gleefully corrupt they were with Shido in power? Yes but the overwhelming forum culture right now is 'gently caress cops' in any capacity due to a lot of institutionalized abuse and poo poo coming to a head recently.
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Apr 24, 2019 19:30
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Sydin posted:The problem with that is Hifumi's original bit was that of the team strategist, but when Atlus decided they needed to cut back they just took all that and folded it into Makoto. So it's not as simple as brushing off the old plan now that they've got the time to implement her - they'd either have to completely rewrite Makoto's role in the PT's to make room for Hifumi, or they'd have to give Hifumi an entirely new bit that wouldn't make her feel superfluous. More than that, I think people generally give way too much weight to what "originally supposed to be" even means in a writing context. Everything is always subject to change, and 90% of all ideas end up on the cutting room floor. If anything, the interesting part is more that they were able to recycle her character design as an NPC.
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The only change I want is that when Morgana leaves and teams up with Haru, that I get to recruit Haru and let Morgana stay out of the Phantom Thieves.
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Apr 24, 2019 19:31
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Ryuji was extremely Right to poo poo on Morgana
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Apr 24, 2019 19:32
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Zore posted:Teddie was probably a bigger creep than Morgana tbh. Though they're both way up there. Teddie had creeper humor, Morgana was an incel.
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Apr 24, 2019 19:34
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I'm gonna push Ryuji to the other side of the wall before it closes in Shido's palace
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Apr 24, 2019 19:35
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Macaluso posted:I'm gonna push Ryuji to the other side of the wall before it closes in Shido's palace steepling my fingers and taking a deep, calming breath r/n
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Apr 24, 2019 19:38
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there's a lot more changes spelled out on mysticdistance's twitter someone summarise them
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Apr 24, 2019 19:40
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Endorph posted:i actually like haru too but her relationship with most of the rest of the party is pretty boring, if that makes sense That's true. Except for random mementos conversations where it turns out she has an entire hidden sadist thing going on that freaks everybody out that isn't present anywhere else and most players will probably never see. Man P5R has a lot it could potentially clean up.
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Apr 24, 2019 19:43
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This seems like the most comprehensive list, it is on the reddit though, so beware
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Oxxidation posted:akechi's characterization was the closest atlus came to incisive social commentary outside of the kamoshida arc, even if they probably did it by accident the closest thing they did was have it be implied that Okamura wasn't uniquely evil and was basically not doing anything any other CEO wasn't doing Feels Villeneuve fucked around with this message at 19:49 on Apr 24, 2019 |
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Lord Cyrahzax posted:This seems like the most comprehensive list, it is on the reddit though, so beware quote:Edit 4: Thanks to u/Elisianthus, u/shabonsong and u/Kulzak-Draak for the translation! The boy is named Ikemen (meaning "pretty boy") and says: 
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bold move not making him a catboy
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