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Prester Jane posted:So the thing to keep in mind is that for every Hasson we have in jail we have a hundred and fifty potential Hasson's out there keenly following this case. His release is really just the absolute worst sort of encouragement that potential violent extremist should be receiving right now. poo poo is gonna be LIT
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Did the judge give him his weapons back, the list of targets, and an uber gift card too?
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Justice Department Indicts Judge Who Helped Immigrant Evade ICE In Her Courthousequote:A Massachusetts judge has been indicted for helping an unauthorized immigrant avoid Immigrations and Customs Enforcement officers in her own courthouse. https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/04/ice-courthouse-judge-shelley-joseph-indicted.html
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The Supreme Court has ruled that states must gerrymander, so why do these states keep passing laws against it?! - John gently caress THE VRA Roberts.
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twice burned ice posted:I mean, the horrific war crimes we inflicted upon Dresden were wholly necessary. Uhhh I assume there's a typo in here somewhere
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Hannity is kicking up a fuss that Biden was the reason the crime bill was bad, and that Trump ended the crime bill once and for all.
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VitalSigns posted:Uhhh  It was supposed to read 'unnecessary,' but you can read it as sarcasm if you prefer
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Nonsense posted:https://twitter.com/jjouvenal/status/1121492961089544193 Wouldn't want to deny the guy his vote.
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Nonsense posted:https://twitter.com/jjouvenal/status/1121492961089544193 they released him from pretrial detention and are ordering him to house arrest and electronic monitoring pending his trial
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Apr 25, 2019 20:47
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OJ MIST 2 THE DICK posted:they released him from pretrial detention and are ordering him to house arrest and electronic monitoring pending his trial Would that really stop someone who was planning a suicide mission anyways? I hope this clown doesn’t have a huge stash of weapons in his house. Cause when you’re about to go to jail for years seems like a good motivator to just go through with your crazy plans cause you’re hosed already anyways, might as well be a martyr.
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OJ MIST 2 THE DICK posted:they released him from pretrial detention and are ordering him to house arrest and electronic monitoring pending his trial 
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If only the cops had planted a dime bag in there he'd be in jail for life.
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Apr 25, 2019 20:52
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RasperFat posted:Would that really stop someone who was planning a suicide mission anyways? That’s what the electronic monitoring is for, I assume. And wouldn’t any weapons be confiscated as evidence at the very least?
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Groovelord Neato posted:Justice Department Indicts Judge Who Helped Immigrant Evade ICE In Her Courthouse This is a really really really really really really big deal. This is the federal goverment physically asserting it's power and dominance over state courts. That's like, a really goddamn big deal. Because the Democratic party is presently led by a bunch of gutless neoliberal* Cooperators (who believe that any use of force in any form is somehow immoral) I wouldn't expect any real push back against this. * I wanted to mention that I spat on the ground while the writing this The law doesn't matter anymore if the law somehow conflicts with the goals of evangelical white supremacism in the United States. This is the reality we now live in. And because our entire population has been trained to wait for either Heroes to appear and fight this on our behalf or four leadership from within the existing system to tell us what to do- we're all sitting around with our thumbs up our asses while it becomes all the more obvious that we are living through the rise of fascist America. We need to start seriously discussing general strikes and intentional (non-violent) disruption of supply chains- that's the only chance the good guys have at this point in time. Our elaborate system of checks and balances is nothing but a wall of sand being not-so-slowly eroded away by the ongoing storm. The Democratic party's existing leadership structure is severely compromised by corporate actors and the interests of big capital- it is completely impossible for a leadership figure capable of truly opposing fascism to appear from within that structure. We average Americans need to start looking to ourselves to solve this problem, and the longer we wait to have that conversation that's less likely it'll happen in time to matter. The concentration camps are open, we're talking about sending forcefully orphaned children to a foreign concentration camp basically just for shits and giggles, we're releasing white supremacists who are plotting political assassinations of opposition figures, the White House is asserting itself as above the law (and doing so successfully), and the federal court system is asserting its dominance over state court systems by slapping federal indictments on state judges for the crime of doing their jobs. It's not too late but we ain't got a whole hell of a lot of time and we need to start thinking about how we average people can fight this poo poo on our own because the system sure as gently caress ain't going to save itself at this point. Prester Jane fucked around with this message at 21:05 on Apr 25, 2019 |
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I'm sure the police have left him in his house with all of his guns and grenades and body armor just laying around and no one thought to take them away from him.
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Pigbuster posted:That’s what the electronic monitoring is for, I assume. And wouldn’t any weapons be confiscated as evidence at the very least? Yeah I guess they'll know exactly where he is when the massacre starts.
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Nonsense posted:https://twitter.com/jjouvenal/status/1121492961089544193 Um, unless new info has come to light he's never been accused of murder
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pseudanonymous posted:If only the cops had planted a dime bag in there he'd be in jail for life. "Sir, this looks like heroin in his house." *chief pockets the nose candy* "Woops, how did this get here!"
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Seph posted:I'm sure the police have left him in his house with all of his guns and grenades and body armor just laying around and no one thought to take them away from him. Uh, he's white. You can't take things from a white person, A TROOP, without a trial. Also, there's no way this guy knows any illicit ways to get guns, thankfully. Gun sales are well regulated and there are no obvious loopholes like gun shows or private sale that bypass all monitoring.
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Seph posted:I'm sure the police have left him in his house with all of his guns and grenades and body armor just laying around and no one thought to take them away from him. Nah, that would be totally amateur hour. They're in an unlocked chest in the house next door. As long as he doesn't learn the cops' patrol patterns we should be safe.
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Pigbuster posted:That’s what the electronic monitoring is for, I assume. And wouldn’t any weapons be confiscated as evidence at the very least? Not the legal ones.
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This is the picture and article that comes to mind whenever someone tries to tell me gun laws would hurt 'collectors' and people 'exercising their right' to buy as many guns as they want.
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Pigbuster posted:That’s what the electronic monitoring is for, I assume. And wouldn’t any weapons be confiscated as evidence at the very least? Yeah he could go to jail if he leaves his house, but unless U.S. Marshals are waiting to immediately tackle him it wouldn’t do much to stop him going on a rampage.
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The guy's not on the street yet. The judge ordered another hearing to determine what conditions he might have to meet in order to be released.
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^Upon release, I guess.^ Also he's probably perfectly capable of going out and buying more guns legally, right this second, because our gun laws are so stupid and ineffective in this country. In any case, this guy should be held until trial, he's pretty clearly a mass shooting waiting to happen.
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DaveWoo posted:https://twitter.com/frankthorp/status/1121485536433197057 Based on what loving authority lol. They are begging the dems to actually enforce the law.
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Every day this country finds a brand new way to show me how much it really hates black people.
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DrNutt posted:^Upon release, I guess.^
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dunno the reporter, just quoting a tweet so it doesn't look like I pulled that out of my rear end: https://twitter.com/MikevWUSA/status/1121507551047241729 That is being confirmed by other local news, if you dig a bit.
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cr0y posted:Based on what loving authority lol. They are begging the dems to actually enforce the law. Other than showing that they are above the law, why are these people so shook about testifying? Sure, it is a boring annoying day, but it isn't against the law to not recall a single goddamn thing all day. Are they worried that the rhetorical geniuses we elect are going to trap them into some kind of super villain monologue? The public hearings are just soundbitey "how very dare you, sir!" (looks at camera with resolute sternness), and "I'd have to check my notes, that is not my recollection, I don't recall, name, rank, serial number"
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cargo cult posted:wasnt the orlando shooter on some kind of watchlist that didnt do anything to prevent him from buying guns legally I don't recall but I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest. Adhering to and updating those lists that are used for background checks is something that is up to individual states to enforce and lol Florida. eviltastic posted:dunno the reporter, just quoting a tweet so it doesn't look like I pulled that out of my rear end: This judge sounds like he might have some brain damage.
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Slo-Tek posted:Other than showing that they are above the law, why are these people so shook about testifying? Sure, it is a boring annoying day, but it isn't against the law to not recall a single goddamn thing all day. They are showing you that they are above the law and daring anybody to do something about it. If they get away with this then they will just escalate three or four months down the line. Rinse and repeat until either an external force stops them or the ashes of minority's darken the skies.
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Slo-Tek posted:Other than showing that they are above the law, why are these people so shook about testifying? Sure, it is a boring annoying day, but it isn't against the law to not recall a single goddamn thing all day. Brazen disregard for rule of law also probably afraid they'll let some poo poo slip maybe? They're not smart.
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theflyingorc posted:Ugh I went further with the numbers because I hate myself - RIGHT NOW, the top 25% of states make up ~79.2% of the population. So RIGHT NOW, 20% of the country has enough say to control the Senate by themselves. The only way to abolish the Senate is to amend the constitution. But that takes 3/4ths of the states to do. The smaller states will never vote for that. So how?
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Aeolusdallas posted:The only way to abolish the Senate is to amend the constitution. But that takes 3/4ths of the states to do. The smaller states will never vote for that. So how? First we make an amendment changing the rules on amendments.
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DrNutt posted:I don't recall but I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest. Adhering to and updating those lists that are used for background checks is something that is up to individual states to enforce and lol Florida. "An otherwise blameless life" We have another Reagan appointee like Ellis apparently
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Slo-Tek posted:Other than showing that they are above the law, why are these people so shook about testifying? Sure, it is a boring annoying day, but it isn't against the law to not recall a single goddamn thing all day. Because a video of Trump's underlings describing crimes is far more effective than text of them doing the same. The Republicans absolutely understand that this poo poo is impactful that's why they are doing everything in their power to prevent or at least delay it. There is also the idea that they are trying to run out the clock and get as close to the election as they can before poo poo blows wide open in the hopes that the reckoning can be deferred until it's too late. Then either they manage to maintain power through their usual dirty tricks and Russian help or he resigns right before inauguration so Pence can pardon him and he can gently caress off to Russia before he's indicted on State charges possibly loving off to Russia before the resignation and pardon. The Democrats most of them being the risk averse cowards that they are don't want to go full bore for fear of it back firing. There is also the whole question of whether the courts will follow precedent or make poo poo up to protect the orange shitstain and his enablers. After all it's not like congress has it's own army and as long as the Senate maintains solidarity with Trump there isn't that much that the Democrats can really do beyond talk. I mean what happens if they send the Sgt at Arm to arrest Miller and end up in a stand off with the Secret Service? It's not like they're going to have a shoot out in the White House.
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The judge may be right if all he has been charged with is drug and weapon charges (depending what those are) This is really the cowardice of the prosecutors for not charging him with terrorism.
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Eltoasto posted:The judge may be right if all he has been charged with is drug and weapon charges (depending what those are) Which, it's worth noting, the judge basically told them to go build their case for while the guy was being held without bond. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-courts/judge-denies-request-free-coast-guard-officer-accused-mass-murder-n973946 You don't tell a judge that what you've got is the tip of the iceberg, then come back two weeks later with a shrug.
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