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OBAMNA PHONE
Aug 7, 2002

ElGroucho posted:

Christians are God's chosen retards

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LionYeti
Oct 12, 2008


Zeroisanumber posted:

I just do not get the mentality. It is so weird and self-destructive to live with this sort of death grip commitment to a single party when they are doing everything they can to crush your livelihood.

Its the crab bucket, you don't want anyone especially blacks or poors to suceed so much you're willing to gently caress yourself to ensure it.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Zeroisanumber posted:

I just do not get the mentality. It is so weird and self-destructive to live with this sort of death grip commitment to a single party when they are doing everything they can to crush your livelihood.

In the 80s Republicans hit on a genius propaganda strategy to convince people to blame "government" and hate "government" so every time Republicans dick over their voters and destroy their livelihoods this is the fault of "government" and the only thing to do is vote for the party that hates the government: Republicans!


FMguru posted:

TFW you hate women and muslims and latinos and gay people just that much.

But yeah it only works in combination with the Southern Strategy: if you hate non-whites and women and gays that much you just need to find a rationalization to keep shooting yourself in the dick.

And it's not like the Democrats give a poo poo about them either or ever propose anything to help anyone who isn't a HENRY or a defense contractor, so there's no counterweight

Tetrabor
Oct 14, 2018

Eight points of contact at all times!

Kung Food posted:

He could also say that immigrants are actually human beings and it's bad to rip babies away from mothers to be sent off to dog kennel rape camps. That would turn opinions real quick.

I imagine he would spin it to them by saying that 'immigrants are good because god-fearing 'murican farmers can pay them under the table to tend to their fields.'

I'm actually surprised more conservatives don't play that line more often considering its what farmers have been doing for the last century.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
farmers desperately hate the immigrants they exploit and depend on.

Pieces of Peace
Jul 8, 2006
Hazardous in small doses.

gimme the GOD drat candy posted:

farmers desperately hate the immigrants they exploit and depend on.

much like trump behaves towards everyone he owes everything to. the "small assholes love a big rear end in a top hat" theory wins again

Shipon
Nov 7, 2005
the cool thing about letting all the farmers rot is that it will also mean food shortage in all of the american suburbs and cities, thus ending this country's reign of terror upon humanity

Just-In-Timeberlake
Aug 18, 2003
if you don't think farmers love to be the modern day lord of the land with the power to exploit the poo poo out of their serfs (and deport if they don't like them!), I've got bad news for you.

Tetrabor
Oct 14, 2018

Eight points of contact at all times!

Just-In-Timeberlake posted:

if you don't think farmers love to be the modern day lord of the land with the power to exploit the poo poo out of their serfs (and deport if they don't like them!), I've got bad news for you.
That's what a normal person would expect, but why would they go a step further and ban their one source of exploitive slave work from ever being able to come into the country?

*Looks at thread title.*

Oh....

Tetrabor has issued a correction as of 15:59 on Apr 27, 2019

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer

Tetrabor posted:

That's what a normal person would expect, buy why would they go a step further and ban their one source of exploitive slave work from ever being able to come into the country?

*Looks at thread title.*

Oh....

they just need to cut a deal with prisons/ICE camps. maybe that is steve miller's plan?

CodfishCartographer
Feb 23, 2010

Gadus Maprocephalus

Pillbug

Tetrabor posted:

That's what a normal person would expect, but why would they go a step further and ban their one source of exploitive slave work from ever being able to come into the country?

*Looks at thread title.*

Oh....

I'm sure each one of them believes that THEIR cheap slave workers will remain while all the others get deported, so then they will have the lowest overhead and thus make the most money. Plus then they can exploit their cheap slaves even more by showing how all the others have already been deported.

Militant Lesbian
Oct 3, 2002

Epic High Five posted:

there's a lot more people out there than you'd expect that thought Assange was some noble and impartial player in the whole thing

a lot of them are also seriously worried about Ethics in Video Games Journalism

:emptyquote:

Helen Highwater
Feb 19, 2014

And furthermore
Grimey Drawer
Remember all those NYT stories where they sent people to Iowa to talk to farmers in Steve King's district? The people they interviewed all basically said "I need undocumented workers to make my farm even remotely viable, and if Steve King gets his way I'm gonna be bankrupt and homeless, but I'm gonna keep voting for him anyway because he is white and hates gay people and abortions does good things for this region."

Nottherealaborn
Nov 12, 2012

Helen Highwater posted:

Remember all those NYT stories where they sent people to Iowa to talk to farmers in Steve King's district? The people they interviewed all basically said "I need undocumented workers to make my farm even remotely viable, and if Steve King gets his way I'm gonna be bankrupt and homeless, but I'm gonna keep voting for him anyway because he is white and hates gay people and abortions does good things for this region."

Is that the same series that talked to rural Midwest voters, like Michigan, and one couple started by pretending they cared about economics, but by the end of the interview they literally said it’s because of ‘niggers’?

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

lol

Stoatbringer
Sep 15, 2004

naw, you love it you little ho-bot :roboluv:


We have the biggest piles! USA USA MAGA!

SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

I'm not the soybean farmer - he has gone out on the tiles
He only sold one bushel, and I'm sitting here with piles.

Volcott
Mar 30, 2010

People paying American dollars to let other people know they didn't agree with someone's position on something is the lifeblood of these forums.
We just need to increase US consumption of natto by roughly a gorillion per cent and we're in the clear.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Stoatbringer posted:

We have the biggest piles! USA USA MAGA!

Build the Wall out of excess soybean inventory!

MAGA

Quiet Feet
Dec 14, 2009

THE HELL IS WITH THIS ASS!?





Quick, someone invent a new gun that fires soybeans and tell the chuds that LIBURLS don't want them wasting their precious soybean crop.

Eat This Glob
Jan 14, 2008

God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. Who will wipe this blood off us? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we need to invent?

Helen Highwater posted:

Remember all those NYT stories where they sent people to Iowa to talk to farmers in Steve King's district? The people they interviewed all basically said "I need undocumented workers to make my farm even remotely viable, and if Steve King gets his way I'm gonna be bankrupt and homeless, but I'm gonna keep voting for him anyway because he is white and hates gay people and abortions does good things for this region."

farmers in Iowa dont need undocumented workers. they barely even need their own body to plant and harvest corn and soybeans at this point it is so automated. 80 year olds can plant and harvest 2,000 acres today easier than a family of 12 planting 200 acres 50 years ago.

there are a lot of undocumented workers in his district though. they work a lot in CAFOs and meat processing plants, all of which are owned by giant companies who absolutely would leave if king got his way. i honestly think a lot of his voters wouldn't care at all if all of "those people" were shot into the sun despite the fact that immigrants are the only thing keeping the lights on in a ton of rinky dink towns that have had population loss every decade since WWII ended. nobody sticks around farm country when you need no bodies to farm anymore. the people that stuck around are reactionary as gently caress and just want it to be 1952 in america again before rap music was a thing and their fellow boomer friends still lived in pork butt bend, iowa with them instead of Arizona or whatever.

also lmao your post reminds me i sat down for dinner with Michael barbaro alongside a dozen other folks on the times' dime. he was after some honest insight from rural iowegians during the 2016 campaign. he didnt use anything we said at the dinner because we more or less explained why no one lives in king country anymore lol

Raere
Dec 13, 2007


Good. I eat a lot of tofu and a price cut would make me happy

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Raere posted:

Good. I eat a lot of tofu and a price cut would make me happy

sorry bub this is capitalism, it's all gonna be left to rot or burned to keep the prices up

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


thousands of fat bubba's starving to death in the Midwest because they've promised to never eat hippy food. To own the libs

dioxazine
Oct 14, 2004

I'm convinced anyone who doesn't like mapo tofu is probably evil.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



tofu's good and soy generally has way fewer bioavailable estrogens than meat, especially beef lol

Eat This Glob
Jan 14, 2008

God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. Who will wipe this blood off us? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we need to invent?

Epic High Five posted:

tofu's good and soy generally has way fewer bioavailable estrogens than meat, especially beef lol

shut up with your 'science' bull$hit soyboi

TMMadman
Sep 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Soy is only good for making sauce to put on fake Chinese food!

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747

Epic High Five posted:

tofu's good and soy generally has way fewer bioavailable estrogens than meat, especially beef lol

whats wrong with estrogen u womann hater

SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

Estragon is great unless you put too much of it and it completely kills the taste of the dish. It's like taking a sip of Tarhun with every bite.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

Eat This Glob posted:

farmers in Iowa dont need undocumented workers. they barely even need their own body to plant and harvest corn and soybeans at this point it is so automated. 80 year olds can plant and harvest 2,000 acres today easier than a family of 12 planting 200 acres 50 years ago.

there are a lot of undocumented workers in his district though. they work a lot in CAFOs and meat processing plants, all of which are owned by giant companies who absolutely would leave if king got his way. i honestly think a lot of his voters wouldn't care at all if all of "those people" were shot into the sun despite the fact that immigrants are the only thing keeping the lights on in a ton of rinky dink towns that have had population loss every decade since WWII ended. nobody sticks around farm country when you need no bodies to farm anymore. the people that stuck around are reactionary as gently caress and just want it to be 1952 in america again before rap music was a thing and their fellow boomer friends still lived in pork butt bend, iowa with them instead of Arizona or whatever.

also lmao your post reminds me i sat down for dinner with Michael barbaro alongside a dozen other folks on the times' dime. he was after some honest insight from rural iowegians during the 2016 campaign. he didnt use anything we said at the dinner because we more or less explained why no one lives in king country anymore lol

Thanks for the posts. As a dandified city slicker it's nice to have someone who actually has spent time in and understands rural communities explain this poo poo.

Blister
Sep 8, 2000

Hair Elf

Eat This Glob posted:

shut up with your 'science' bull$hit soyboi

if ur not injecting yourself and drinking all the latest untested testosterone boosting and estrogen blocking science drugs gtfo

Killer_B
May 23, 2005

Uh?

Eat This Glob posted:

they threw a loving fit over Obama's "waters of the us" epa policy saying farmers are responsible for keeping their goddamn chemicals in their loving fields as a way to combat the massive dead zone in the gulf among other problems. also cities like des Moines sued because they had to spend a shitload of money to reduce the nitrogen in the water to a safe level because the raccoon river where they get drinking water from is functionally a drainage ditch for farmers in nw iowa. farmers will scream if you do anything to regulate stuff, and Republicans are always in favor of salting the earth and chucking batteries into the ocean. they're going to vote themselves out of a profession because dems at least pay some lipservice to environmental issues

right to repair is an issue for sure, and Bernie should be for it, but I couldn't imagine it would swing a lot of people.

e: especially since Bernie is pro green new deal

This country right now, it wants to be soothed.
And told it doesn't have to pay or sacrifice or learn.

We love to eat, we love to pray.
Mold over mind, hooray!

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

Trump's people will abandon him once he's out of office, like Bush. But while they're able to vicariously feel powerful by identifying with his destructive rule he is Their Guy and can do no wrong

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

Choose this life you're on your own

SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:

Trump's people will abandon him once he's out of office, like Bush. But while they're able to vicariously feel powerful by identifying with his destructive rule he is Their Guy and can do no wrong

Exactly. Trump is the symptom, not the disease.

Eat This Glob
Jan 14, 2008

God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. Who will wipe this blood off us? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we need to invent?

Zeroisanumber posted:

Thanks for the posts. As a dandified city slicker it's nice to have someone who actually has spent time in and understands rural communities explain this poo poo.

happy to. i'm like the Jane Goodall for chuds lol

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost

Zeroisanumber posted:

Thanks for the posts. As a dandified city slicker it's nice to have someone who actually has spent time in and understands rural communities explain this poo poo.

Seconding this.

clockworx
Oct 15, 2005
The Internet Whore made me buy this account
I feel like there's never not a good time to repost this article

White, and in the minority
She speaks English. Her co-workers don’t. Inside a rural chicken plant, whites struggle to fit in.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006


Trump!

Maybe it would be good if the below "culture" got destroyed?

quote:

Downtown amounted to a library, a bar named the Fredericksburg Eagle Hotel, banners emblazoned with the bald eagle, signs that said, among other things, “NOTICE: This place is politically incorrect,” and houses flying the Confederate flag.

quote:

FREDERICKSBURG, Pa.
It was minutes before the end of the first shift, and the beginning of the second, and the hallways at the chicken plant swarmed with workers coming and going. One pulled a hairnet over her curly hair, giggling at a joke. Two others exchanged kisses on the cheek. A woman with a black ponytail hugged everyone within reach. And a thin, ashen woman, whom no one greeted or even seemed to notice, suddenly smiled.

There he was. Standing near the lockers. Tall and crew-cut. Her boyfriend.

“Hi,” said Heaven Engle, 20.

“Hey,” replied Venson Heim, 25.


They met every day at this time, before he started his shift as a mechanic at Bell & Evans Plant 2, and she started hers as “I don’t know what they call it; I just check the chicken.” It was the hardest moment of her day. She knew she was about to go at least eight hours without speaking English, or probably anything at all, in a plant where nearly all of the workers were Latino and spoke Spanish, and she was one of the few who wasn’t and didn’t.

She slowly took out her earrings, nose ring and lip ring, placing them into her knapsack, and he turned to leave. “I got to go in 10 seconds,” he said, and she grabbed onto him. “Why are you trying to act like you want to leave me or something?” she said, and the two held the embrace, swaying slightly, their world outside the plant’s walls — white, rural, conservative — feeling distant in this world within, where they were the outsiders, the ones who couldn’t communicate, the minority.

In a country where whites will lose majority status in about a quarter-century, and where research suggests that demographic anxiety is contributing to many of the social fissures polarizing the United States, from immigration policy to welfare reform to the election of President Trump, the story of the coming decades will be, to some degree, the story of how white people adapt to a changing country. It will be the story of people like Heaven Engle and Venson Heim, both of whom were beginning careers on the bottom rung of an industry remade by Latinos, whose population growth is fueling that of America, and were now, in unusually intense circumstances, coming to understand what it means to be outnumbered.

They didn’t know the heavy burden of discrimination familiar to members of historically oppressed minority groups, including biased policing and unequal access to jobs and housing. But some of the everyday experiences that have long challenged millions of black, Latino and immigrant Americans — the struggle to understand and be understood, feeling unseen, fear of rapid judgments — were beginning to challenge them, too.

Venson let go of Heaven. He told her he had to clock in. She watched him disappear around a corner, then stood there for a moment, alone. She pulled on a winter hat, a wool scarf and a thick coat, knowing how cold the factory can get, then went to a different clock-in station. In the nearly vacant hallway, she watched the clock, waiting for her shift to begin at 3:20.

Seven minutes left: Employees gathered around Heaven, first three, then four, then six.


Studies have shown how some whites, who are dying faster than they’re being born in 26 states, react when they become aware of a tectonic demographic shift that will, with little historic precedent, reconfigure the racial and ethnic geography of an entire country. They swing to the right, either becoming conservative for the first time, or increasingly conservative — “politically activated,” explained Ryan Enos, a political scientist at Harvard University, who among others found that white Democrats voted for Trump in higher numbers in places where the Latino population had recently grown the most.

Four minutes left: Heaven, looking at the floor, heard laughter and jokes exchanged in the rapid Spanish of the Dominican Republic.

They feel threatened, even if not directly affected by the change, and adopt positions targeting minorities out of “fears of what America will look like,” said Rachel Wetts of the University of California at Berkeley, who argued in one study that recent calls by whites to cut welfare were born of racial resentment inflamed by demographic anxiety, even though whites benefit from the social safety net as well.

Two minutes left: Heaven pressed closer and closer to the wall in a hallway that was now filled with workers, all Latino.

They empathize more deeply with other whites — a sense of group identity ignited — because “they feel like ‘We’re part of a threatened group, and we need to band together,’ ” said René Flores, an assistant sociology professor at the University of Chicago who has analyzed how whites reacted to the growing Latino presence in rural Pennsylvania.

And they feel as Heaven did now, clocking in, then following the others out onto the production floor: Either she’d find a way to fit in, or she’d find a way to get out.

Heaven lives with her mother in the same small house in Fredericksburg where she was raised. The world outside the nearby Bell & Evans plant is white, rural and conservative.
When Heaven graduated high school in the spring of 2016, she had no desire to leave Fredericksburg. College didn’t interest her, because she hated school and wasn’t great at it, and she didn’t want to go out and see the world, either. She believed that everything she’d ever need was already here, so she felt content to apply for a job at Bell & Evans, whose water tower looms over the town, and where just about everyone she knew had already worked.

You’ll love it there, her sister said.

They’ve got great benefits, her mother said.

Give it a chance, her ex-boyfriend said.

It was now her 20th month of giving it a chance, and she was standing at the end of a long processing machine called the Multivac, wearing a white smock and blue latex gloves, making $13 an hour, waiting for the next four packages of chicken breasts to come down the line. They arrived every six seconds, and in that time she scanned for discoloration, leakage and mislabeling, setting aside defective packages for reprocessing. It was relentless: Here they came, there they went, every six seconds, about 40 in a minute, thousands in a shift — a shift during which so many things would upset her, but never the work.

She could handle the monotony. She could deal with standing under the vents, which cooled the production floor to 40 degrees. She could even tolerate the mess. The day chicken juice got all over her hair and face, the thing that had been intolerable had not been the smell or the taste, but that she didn’t have anyone to talk to about it.

She felt more alone than she’d ever thought possible. Alone when a worker slipped in front of her, and she wanted to ask if he was okay, but didn’t know how. Alone when she once went to the break room, saw the tables filled with people speaking Spanish, and swore that she’d never be back. And now when another plant worker, Denisse Salvador, a demure 25-year-old from the Dominican Republic, came to collect 40 chicken breasts that Heaven had placed into a bucket, she felt alone again. Months before, Salvador had marshaled all of her English to ask Heaven her name, and for a moment Heaven had felt less isolated, as though maybe that could be the beginning of a friendship, but that had been the extent of the conversation, and now neither said anything as Salvador collected the chicken breasts and left.

Heaven makes $13 an hour working on a quality-control line, where she stands at the end of a long processing machine, waiting for packages of chicken breasts to arrive. She scans them for discoloration, leakage and mislabeling, setting aside defective packages for reprocessing. Many things upset her during her shifts, but never the work.
Heaven watched her go, then looked down. Four more chicken packages were arriving. She vacantly scanned them, and the next batch, and the next, losing herself in a thought that had grown to consume her. She couldn’t do this anymore. Two years of her life — gone, spent in near silence. She knew it was her fault, too. She could have tried harder, learned a few Spanish words, overcome her shyness. But instead, all she’d ever wanted was another job, where friends would come easier and where she wouldn’t feel so outnumbered, because, as she had again tried to explain earlier that day to her father, Dave Engle, “It sucks when you can’t talk to no one.”

“But that way at least you should be working,” he said. “If you can’t even talk.”

“I would rather sit and talk,” she said. “It would make the day go faster.”

They were riding in Dave’s big red truck. The windows were down. Country music was playing. The road cut through an endless expanse of fields and hills, a view that included a sign that said, “TRUMP,” with the “T” replaced by a handgun.

So much of Lebanon County, population 140,000, was undergoing what local historian Adam Bentz called a “demographic transformation,” but not Fredericksburg, and not its 1,500 residents. Over the past two decades, Puerto Ricans and Dominicans had surged into nearby Lebanon city, either from New York or the Caribbean, attracted by cheap housing, an established Latino community, and food-processing plants that had become increasingly, if not mostly, staffed by Latinos, because, as one former employee who spoke on the condition of anonymity put it, “White people didn’t want to work in the stinky chicken shop.” Fredericksburg, meanwhile, home to some plants, was still 95 percent white, still overwhelmingly conservative. Downtown amounted to a library, a bar named the Fredericksburg Eagle Hotel, banners emblazoned with the bald eagle, signs that said, among other things, “NOTICE: This place is politically incorrect,” and houses flying the Confederate flag.

Heaven looked out the window. This was her town. Her people. Was it so wrong to want to be among them? Was it so wrong to want to work with them? Was it so wrong to refuse to learn a new language? She had taken some Spanish in high school, but had dropped it, not because she had any animosity toward the language or the people who spoke it, but because that just wasn’t her — that was other parts of Lebanon County, not Fredericksburg.

Now on the edge of her Fredericksburg rose a giant new factory, and Heaven read a sign outside saying, “Hiring All Positions.”

I swear to God, if they don’t say anything in English, I’m going to freak out.
Heaven Engle
“That big place right back there,” she said. “That’s the Ace Hardware I want to apply at. Isn’t it opening in June?”

“It’s already open,” her father replied, and she started thinking of all of the possibilities of working there — conversations, friends, belonging — rather than the reality of what awaited her hours later, which was another bin full of raw chicken legs, and Salvador again making her way toward the back of the line to pick it up. Heaven watched Salvador coming, annoyed. Why couldn’t she learn English? Why was it up to Heaven to change? Salvador was the newcomer, not her.

What Heaven didn’t know was that Salvador agreed with her. She thought it was her responsibility to learn English, too. She’d grown up seeing Americans come through her town along the Dominican Republic’s northern coast, and had dreamed of following them back to the United States. But when she finally got here in April 2017, all she’d found was a sick mother, who had sponsored her green card but whom she now had to care for, endless household chores and a 45-minute commute from their home in Reading, Pa., to a chicken plant where there was no need to learn English because everyone spoke Spanish. So now, nearly as monolingual as when she arrived, all she did when she reached the back of the line was smile at Heaven, who smiled back, then wheel the chicken away.

A part-American, part Confederate flag flies outside a house on a country road south of Lebanon, Pa. Much of Lebanon County, population 140,000, was undergoing what local historian Adam Bentz called a demographic transformation driven by Puerto Ricans and Dominicans, but not Fredericksburg, and not its 1,500 residents.
“I’m quitting,” Heaven was saying.

“You’re always saying you’re quitting,” said this shift’s only other white production worker, Ronaele Wengert, 31, who came by one day to tell Heaven that they had a meeting in a few minutes. They knew what that could mean.

“I swear to God, if they don’t say anything in English, I’m going to freak out,” Heaven said.

“Then they’ll say, ‘Do you understand? Do you understand?’ Does it look like I understand?” Wengert said. “Then they translate.”

“They try.”

Heaven shook her head. What was this job doing to her? She’d never thought of herself as prejudiced — and still didn’t — but there were increasingly times when she felt so far on the outside, so little understood, that her alienation was hardening into something closer to anger, and possibly worse. Like when she had to clock in and felt pushed out of the way. Or when people said “gringa” and she experienced a flash of paranoia that they were talking about her. Or when supervisors separated Spanish speakers from English speakers for training videos, sometimes leaving Heaven in a room alone, except for a guy whom she believed spoke only French.

Worried that it might happen again, she headed to the wash sinks, past row after row of silver machinery humming so loudly that workers nearby had to shout, past the deboning station and the conveyor belts, and warmed her numb hands under the water. She took off her smock and hairnet and, straightening her hair, went into the meeting room. It was already filled with employees, but there was a seat in the back, where she sat down and waited.

They don’t give a rat’s rear end about people with white skin.
Venson Heim
A form was handed out, and she sighed in irritation when she saw it was in Spanish — “politica de zapatos resistentes a resbalones” — only nodding in relief when she flipped it over and realized there was an English version: “slip-resistant shoe policy.” She quickly looked at it, then leaned over to Wengert, seated beside her, and said, “This is not going to be in English.”

“Yeah,” Wengert said.

“I’m okay sitting here and reading it,” Heaven said. “I did that last time.”

As the meeting went on — presenters at first switching between Spanish and English, but increasingly talking only in Spanish — she became more and more irritated. When one worker joked that his Timberland boots were probably slip-resistant, and everyone laughed, she didn’t understand what was happening. Later, when another employee called the boots pictured in the handout ugly, and people chuckled again, she crossed her arms. One of the presenters tried to keep up, translating all that he could, looking at Heaven when he did, but it was no use. He missed some things, or got the words wrong.

“Is that supposed to be English?” Wengert whispered to Heaven, who shook her head slightly. When the meeting was over, she stood up and, without a word, walked out. It was break time, and everyone else was talking lunch, heading for the cafeteria. But Heaven didn’t follow. She instead went to her locker, took out her phone and a pack of menthol cigarettes, and went outside into the day’s last light.

That’s where she saw him. Outside, along the iron fence, taking his break alone, too.

“Is that my boyfriend?” she called.

She went to him. They kissed and sat side by side, legs touching. Flipping through Facebook, she told him about the meeting, how uncomfortable it had been.

“They don’t give a rat’s rear end about people with white skin,” he said.

She nodded, feeling better. This was exactly what she had needed. Someone who understood, and Venson always did. She first met him last July. For months, she had called over any mechanic — most of whom were white on her shift — repairing a nearby machine, just to have someone to talk to, and then one day it was Venson. He told her he’d gone to the same high school she had, and it felt so good to connect that they soon had a relationship going, one whose core was their shared experience at Bell & Evans.

“Half of them know English and they just don’t show it,” Venson continued, pulling on a cigarette.

“They do,” she agreed, smoking her own.

“You get pretty much overlooked,” he said.

She sighed and leaned her head against his shoulder, feeling tired, and then the two of them were quiet as the trucks carting away the chicken rumbled off and the final minutes of their break ticked down to nothing.

Heaven and Venson kiss goodbye outside the break room before their shifts. The core of their relationship is their shared experience at Bell & Evans.
There were days when Venson imagined what might await America. This would be a nation where whites weren’t only a minority, but disadvantaged, punished for their collective crimes, because, as he put it, “we haven’t been the nicest race.” Speaking Spanish wouldn’t just be beneficial, but essential, and people like him would never be able to recover from what they didn’t know. “Screwed for life,” he said.

These were relatively new thoughts for him. Until now, his entire life had been lived in one America, the America of Jonestown, Pa., where he shared a drab two-story rental with his mother in a neighborhood of neat yards, basketball hoops and trucks parked in the driveways. He graduated from Northern Lebanon High School, whose demographics the principal, Jennifer Hassler, struggled to describe as “Diversity isn’t necessarily — we don’t have a lot of diversity, we just don’t.” On weekends, his family took day trips to nearby Hershey’s Chocolate World.

But since he’d started at Bell & Evans, and been plunged into another America, this one less familiar, race had been on his mind all of the time. He thought about it when Heaven said she wanted to quit. He thought about it when his mother vented about finding jobs for the immigrants at her temp agency, and when he watched the news on his big-screen television in his room, amid his sports posters, work boots and video games.

He didn’t understand why people said the United States should allow in more immigrants. If a Syrian needed asylum from a murderous regime, then yes, the country should help. But anyone crossing the border seeking jobs, even government assistance — that didn’t seem fair. What about the people already here? What about the homeless? What about him? He was the one, after all, whose career had been shaped by Washington policymakers, who he believed didn’t know what it was like to be an outsider in your own community — a feeling that had become as ordinary to him as the wrench in his back pocket, which he now took out to tinker with a malfunctioning batter machine.

“The motors are burning because they’re constantly running,” Venson shouted over the clamor, but only got confused looks in return.

Three white mechanics in blue smocks were huddled around the machine. Ten Latino workers in white smocks were huddled around them, watching as Venson unscrewed a clogged pipe to drain the excess batter, then screwed it back on. The white men stood up and, with another job done, returned to the mechanics’ break room, finding a mess of junk food and drinks and a giant American flag hanging in the back from ceiling to floor. They took off their smocks and hairnets. Venson sat at the picnic table. He took in a slow breath and let it out.

The truth was that he loved this job. He didn’t have a vocational degree, like some of the mechanics, or any experience, like others. But in just one year, he’d gotten so good at it that his bosses had bumped his hourly pay from $13.50 to $17. When the Pacmac or the DSI Portioning System acted up, he was the one who knew what to do, not because he was a savant, but because he’d worked at it, day after day, which was why he became so frustrated when workers in that department didn’t ask him for assistance. They wanted help only from Juan Leon, the shift’s lone Latino mechanic, a Puerto Rican transplant whom Venson genuinely liked and appreciated, but who didn’t know those machines. Venson did. So why didn’t they ask him for help? Why did they want solely another Latino? How did it get to be this way?

“I was amazed,” mechanic Mike Stubblefield said one day, during another break room conversation about the plant’s racial dynamic, after seeing entire Latino families working at the plant. “ ‘Your father works here, your mother, your brother and your sister?’ ”

“That goes right back to what I was saying. It’s an easy place to get employed, these plants are,” Venson said. “They just come put in an application, ‘I need trabajo.’ ”

“Yo necesito trabajo?” said Mike Zombro, another mechanic.

“Yeah, sure, whatever, yo quiero Taco Bell,” Venson said. “No speak-a the Spanish.”

“That’s why we have Juan. ‘Juan, what the f— is he saying to me? Because I don’t f—ing know,’ ” Zombro said, laughing and backslapping Leon, who last year had requested a transfer to a shift with more Latino mechanics, in part to get away from this type of talk. He silently listened to the conversation, expressionless, until a call came over the radio. Time to get out onto the production floor. The men pulled on their hairnets.

On his way toward the next assignment, Venson saw Heaven. She was alone at the back of Line 4. He’d never seen her speak with anyone, not in the year he’d been here, and he didn’t know how she did it. At least he had the camaraderie of the mechanics, the reprieve of their break room, the fulfillment of doing work he liked. But why was she still here, he couldn’t help but think. Why hadn’t she quit?

It was nearly 2 in the afternoon when Heaven woke, two hours later than she’d wanted, inside a trailer sealed from the light of outside. Lying on a mattress without a frame, she checked her phone to see if Venson had texted her — not yet — then looked around the room where she’d spent nearly every night for almost as long as she could remember. There were her stuffed elephants. An old flower-print chair piled with clothing. The chalkboard on the wall where she’d written, “11/11/17,” the date her relationship with Venson started. And a pack of menthol cigarettes, which she carried outside, squinting into the cloudless afternoon.

She got a cigarette going, and then another, looking at a view that spilled out like a painting, only crops and trees and sun.

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No matter how many times she’d been out here, the view had never changed, one of the few things that hadn’t in a county and state and country where every year seemed to bring more news of transformation. In 2015, demographers announced that California had more Latinos than whites. In 2016, the U.S. Census Bureau said white babies hadn’t been the majority the year before. In 2017, all racial minorities were found to be growing faster than whites. And here in Lebanon County, plans were underway for yet more factories and plants, including one at Bell & Evans, that local experts predict will employ mostly Latinos, accelerating the demographic shift.

Heaven, looking out into this county, felt resigned to what she could not change. She had applied to the new Ace Hardware factory. Then when that didn’t lead to anything, she submitted an application to an industrial supply plant. But no one got back to her on that, either, and she now wondered: What had been the point? She believed she’d be a minority no matter what plant she worked in. The world she’d never wanted to go out and see had instead come to her, and it was here to stay.

The cigarette was done, and she went inside. She put on her makeup, sprayed herself with a burst of Winter Candy Apple perfume, then drove the three miles into work. She looked for Venson, but he’d already clocked in, so she pulled on her winter hat and scarf again. It was seven minutes until her shift began, and with nothing better to do, and no one to talk to, she went to the clock-in station, where she watched the woman with a black ponytail coming down the hallway, hugging people as she went.

This time, however, when she reached Heaven, the woman stopped. Heaven stayed motionless, unsure. Without a trace of caution, the woman embraced her, saying something Heaven didn’t understand. Then an older woman kissed her cheek. Then the women crowding around Heaven began to laugh, and, as the final minutes went by, she started laughing, too.

Then it was over. The clock hit 3:20. A rush of key cards touched the clock-in machine. The women dispersed: the Spanish speakers to one station, where they stood and got to work, chatting as they went, and Heaven to the back of Line 4, where the only sound in her ears was the whir of the Multivac pushing out the next four packages of chicken.

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Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!
Literally the only actual problem this girl is facing is linguistic, and there is zero threat of English being replaced by Spanish. Hanging the article off that when discussing demographic change is supporting the racism fig leaves. Dogwhistling in of itself.

Hell I'm absolute garbage at learning other languages, but even I when largely immersed in a non-English environment can pick up words quickly. And I've only been in those situations for a couple weeks at a time. If she was open and willing she could gradually pick up and integrate with her coworkers, and in spite of what the whole "WEN WE R MINORITY WE WILL BE EATEN" white person belief dictates, people will be fine with helping her out on this.
Ten bucks says there's a ton of abuelas she works with who will love adopting the awkward rear end white girl, and get a kick out of her trying out Spanish words. She'll get a funny nickname and everything and be her own kind of popular.
Eventually she will even learn of the racisms between the Ricans and Dominicans and so forth!
What a beautiful world this would be if she just gave half a drat at getting out of her bubble and sense of privilege being violated.


Also loving lol

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Alone when a worker slipped in front of her, and she wanted to ask if he was okay, but didn’t know how.

BEND DOWN AND DO ANYTHING AT ALL, SAY IT IN ENGLISH ANYWAY USING BASIC SYMPATHETIC INTONATION AND FACIAL EXPRESSIONS TO COMMUNICATE THE MEANING OF YOUR MOUTH SOUNDS, :pusheen:

Grape has issued a correction as of 00:41 on Apr 29, 2019

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