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DeeplyConcerned posted:I love how we mock the Democrats for having obsession with decorum then turn around with this how dare you sir bullshit. "I'm just disgusted you would exploit this tragedy". It's a discussion forum dude deal with it. I love how people being pissed about the Democrats over reliance on parliamentary norms to stop Nazis is now cover to justify any and all sorts of disgustingly narcissist and immoral behavior because "decorum!".
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SickZip posted:I'm glad I'm not someone so perpetually scared that he has Milo or Alex Jones in the same category as ISIS or dumb enough to think a twitter ban is why ISIS might find their recruiters having a harder time nowadays glad to see we agree: deplatforming far-right recruiters preying on incels not only works, it has no bad side effects! if you'd prefer, in the interest of consistency the full ISIS treatment -could- be put on the table for the poor sad dipshits trying to meme their way out of the blackpill. how many terror attacks before you think that's a sensible decision, out of question.
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Mnoba posted:I'm really starting to worry for some of you, especially when Trump wins in 2020 jesus christ. Imagine posting a link to Bill Maher and thinking it's a sick burn
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nine-gear crow posted:Sadly, I think this this is gonna be increasingly common. People say that Gen Z is more liberal, but no, they're loving not. This is a group of kids who became Nazis because a lady on the internet taught a Gender Studies 101 class about video games and it made them forevermad and we're creeping up on the period in time where the nadir of that bell curve is entering legal gun owning age, and guess what? They're still loving mad. you're misunderstanding statistics
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nine-gear crow posted:Sadly, I think this this is gonna be increasingly common. People say that Gen Z is more liberal, but no, they're loving not. This is a group of kids who became Nazis because a lady on the internet taught a Gender Studies 101 class about video games and it made them forevermad and we're creeping up on the period in time where the nadir of that bell curve is entering legal gun owning age, and guess what? They're still loving mad. any time you think this, remember that your generation's furthest-left watermark for politics was the Jon Stewart Rally To Preserve Decorum, and Timothy McVeigh was a person who existed.
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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:witness, again, the phenomenal increase in power of Alex Jones and ISIS recruiters post-deplatforming I've never advocated for anyone to be banned? And I'm completely and disgustingly sincere in my desire to help.
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i'm beginning to suspect that your arguments against deplatforming may not be based in a desire to help, friend
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Groovelord Neato posted:the problem with the deplatforming is that the ultimate fault lies with the president, the gop, and their media machine. you could delete all these manifestos or make it criminal to distribute them but you've got the president and republicans saying soros and a jewish refugee group are to blame for the caravans. fox news has gone mask off with the white nationalism. laura ingraham and tucker carlson host nightly white power hours. and until democrats grow some spine and start laying the bodies at the feet of the president and his party and his favorite faces on the tv deplatforming isn't going to do jack poo poo. that wouldn't do anything either. what, are the democrats gonna buy fox news and fire tucker carlson?
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Apr 28, 2019 05:13
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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:glad to see we agree: deplatforming far-right recruiters preying on incels not only works, it has no bad side effects! I'm just here to chat and you're rp'ing about being someone with the power to decide life and death for others and I cant take that seriously enough to respond. I hope you get the help you need
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Apr 28, 2019 05:13
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GreyjoyBastard posted:you're misunderstanding statistics More to the point, I don't think it's a case of the upcoming generation being less progressive but more extreme regardless of their political leanings. For better or worse, our politics were already becoming radicalized before the rise of social media turbocharged the process.
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Apr 28, 2019 05:16
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RuanGacho posted:The solutions are known. Well... the solutions are known in the context of state tools, but we don't have access to those. If we want to do something about this, maybe we need to develop some new tools (like, how do we interact with the far right online in an effective way). Yeah, PJ is a bit self-aggrandizing, but sitting around moaning about how we can't do anything because we're not cops or the state is... well... defeatist, and in my opinion worse.
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Skippy McPants posted:More to the point, I don't think it's a case of the upcoming generation being less progressive but more extreme regardless of their political leanings. For better or worse, our politics were already becoming radicalized before the rise of social media turbocharged the process. correct, studies DO show that younger people either lack, or do not value empathy (and especially perspective-taking) skills. they are oblivious and tribalistic but that doesn't actually mean they have to be right-wing or left-wing in particular
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Apr 28, 2019 05:22
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Mnoba posted:I'm really starting to worry for some of you, especially when Trump wins in 2020 jesus christ. Please explain how telling Schiff 'Americans are too stupid to understand the report so we shouldn't try' counts as 'talking sense into him' or is at all helpful.
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Apr 28, 2019 05:22
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LaserShark posted:Please explain how telling Schiff 'Americans are too stupid to understand the report so we shouldn't try' counts as 'talking sense into him' or is at all helpful.
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Apr 28, 2019 05:28
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Apr 28, 2019 05:41
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It is working exactly as intended, yes
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Pembroke Fuse posted:Yeah, PJ is a bit self-aggrandizing Well yeah but..... what crank isn't?
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This actually represents an interesting escalation. If your a trans woman on Twitter you've been dealing with this kind of poo poo for a long time* Up until now blue checkmarks (particularly prominent or popular ones) have been immune to this sort of treatment. * in point of fact my account has been suspended so many times that it's now basically worthless because my tweets don't appear in any one's feeds because the algorithm reduces your visibility the more suspensions you accrue.
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Apr 28, 2019 05:50
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FB got me for a near identical thing recently - these networks get really touchy when you're mean to Nazis.
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Tired: Incited terrorist attacks against Jews Wired: Inciting terrorist attacks against Planned Parenthood https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/1122311812123439105
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nine-gear crow posted:Sadly, I think this this is gonna be increasingly common. People say that Gen Z is more liberal, but no, they're loving not. This is a group of kids who became Nazis because a lady on the internet taught a Gender Studies 101 class about video games and it made them forevermad and we're creeping up on the period in time where the nadir of that bell curve is entering legal gun owning age, and guess what? They're still loving mad.
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Prester Jane posted:Yeah but my terms predate the modern usage of redpilling by a couple years. I was describing the specifics of this process (and warning about the threat that it's spreading through the internet) years before redpilling became a thing. Moreover redpilling as a concept covers a number of interacting psychological functions, and my terminology is meant to reflect each individual psychological function and how it interacts with the others. You wrote that post in 2017. The phrase “red pill” has existed long before that. A quick search came up with an article from 2013. But no keep believing you and you alone came up with this stuff if it helps you sleep better.
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Boris Galerkin posted:You wrote that post in 2017. The phrase “red pill” has existed long before that. A quick search came up with an article from 2013. Back in 2006 I was distributing home burned DVD's consisting of 4 seperate conspiracy documentaries. (Mostly 9-11 truth stuff) I labeled it the "Red Pill collection". Referring to the red pill as an awakening experience into some sort of conspiracy theory or other has been around a very long time. However, the 'chans adapting the term (and associating a bunch of specific memes into it like "hitlerdidnothingwrong") has only occurred within the past couple years. Also to clarify a point (that you are willfully misinterpreting), my description of the psychological processes that redpilling presently refers to existed several years before the 'chans started adopting the term. (e.g. that blogpost is mostly lifted off of material I wrote much earlier in my thread with some more expanded explanations and some light editing to tie it all together into a specific theme.) Prester Jane fucked around with this message at 07:51 on Apr 28, 2019 |
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You know, good writing is really hard for smart people who are actively trying to improve. It’s basically impossible for people who aren’t trying to fix their writing issues and swat away criticism.
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Honestly the whole "Red Pilling" Race War poo poo has become some nihilist religion unto itself, and we really need to start treating these fucks as the equivalent of religious fundamental terrorists, and they should have been deplatformed from everything years ago, let alone just now White supremacy should be treated the same way as ISIS, but in order to do that we first need to remove and then burn to the ground the memory of their loving addled dipshit orange champion
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Deified Data posted:FB got me for a near identical thing recently - these networks get really touchy when you're mean to Nazis. prolly because Nazis hit the "report post" button en masse
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Can you just skip a few steps and escalate this to open transphobia and get banned like you lot do every time PJ posts? You’re actively making this thread worse, and it’s already loving dire.
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The reason it's legal for 18 year olds to bear arms is because 18 year olds can enlist in the armed forces. You don't need to be able to drink to be a soldier but you do need to be able to shoot.
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:Bill Mahar is more responsible for the re-election of Trump than Schiff could ever be. Neither are good, but Mahar is a loving cancer and needs to be cancelled. Am I severely underestimating the influence Mahar has or something cause I thought he was pretty firmly in the “nobody gives a poo poo” camp of public opinion for almost a decade now Aesop Poprock fucked around with this message at 08:23 on Apr 28, 2019 |
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mistaya posted:The reason it's legal for 18 year olds to bear arms is because 18 year olds can enlist in the armed forces. You don't need to be able to drink to be a soldier but you do need to be able to shoot. No. The military teaches recruits how to shoot. They don’t care whether or not you know how when you go in. And It’s not like members of the military wander around armed at all times - or really ever if you limit it to places where US domestic gun laws would apply. This is the worst rationalization.
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18-year-olds have access to guns because the controlling minority of the US cares more about easy access to guns than about the lives of people killed by gun-using murderers. It's as simple as that.
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Bah this is not a derail worth continuing but you know that isn't what I meant. If a kid is old enough for Uncle Sam to shove a rifle in his hands then society has said he's old enough to own rifles. You can agree or disagree with if society SHOULD say that, (and I'd fall on the side of "maybe it shouldn't") but you can't say it doesn't.Roadie posted:18-year-olds have access to guns because the controlling minority of the US cares more about easy access to guns than about the lives of people killed by gun-using murderers. It's as simple as that. Eh, 18 is the number we slapped on legal adulthood and drinking is one of the few things (gambling being the other one) that breaks that rule. Like, you aren't wrong about anything you said in this post re: the controlling minority but the reason 18 year olds have access to guns is that they are legal adults. I'm very for stronger gun control but I don't think an age restriction is going to be very helpful compared to just about any other kind of restriction.
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It would actually be better if Nazis are given even better public platforms to share their beliefs on, to coax more of them out. Just make sure they can be tracked and IDed, so when they post something that incites violence or terrorism they can be arrested and jailed for breaking laws that already exist. Once they get released in their 30s their hormone levels would have fallen off so they will no longer act on their impulsive violent tendencies.
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Until they use that platform to grow and organize enough to acquire power in the government and enact fascistic policy.
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mistaya posted:Bah this is not a derail worth continuing but you know that isn't what I meant. If a kid is old enough for Uncle Sam to shove a rifle in his hands then society has said he's old enough to own rifles. You can agree or disagree with if society SHOULD say that, (and I'd fall on the side of "maybe it shouldn't") but you can't say it doesn't. Hell, let's try it anyway, it couldn't hurt.
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qkkl posted:It would actually be better if Nazis are given even better public platforms to share their beliefs on, to coax more of them out. Just make sure they can be tracked and IDed, so when they post something that incites violence or terrorism they can be arrested and jailed for breaking laws that already exist. Once they get released in their 30s their hormone levels would have fallen off so they will no longer act on their impulsive violent tendencies. Too obvious to be good bait really. Caught u slippin qkkl
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Jonathan Katz was my roommate in college for 2 years. You guys post him a lot from Twitter.
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Interesting read about capitalism in China and a weird bicycle ghost town. https://twitter.com/InvariantPersp1/status/1122344396052058112?s=19
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Scipiotik posted:Jonathan Katz was my roommate in college for 2 years. You guys post him a lot from Twitter. David Klion is a friend of mine from middle school  It was weird seeing D&Ders talk about him.
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