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qkkl posted:Being anti-violent white nationalist is more politically palatable than being anti-White conservative men. The problem is that those are the same thing.
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VideoGameVet posted:My wife had actually talked to the rabbi who lost his fingers, at an event a few years ago. Of course they all dislike him. It costs them nothing to lie about his rhetoric inspiring them. In fact, it costs them nothing at all to lie extensively in their manifestos. There really isn't anything of value in them.
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Apr 28, 2019 21:27
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Apr 28, 2019 21:35
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It's just a simple fact that if you have a few family dinners with the Liebermans then you become an expert in the field of the Jewish faith and attacks upon it. If you don't like what this completely and totally self-made woman has to say, maybe you can go get Joe to sit down to a nice plate of spaghetti and get certified.
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Apr 28, 2019 21:40
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Nonsense posted:https://twitter.com/UsaidM16/status/1122562226706055168 This is absolutely infuriating. Talking about holding "both sides of the aisle" accountable is an excruciatingly terrible false equivalency - as far as I'm concerned, the only things Congresswoman Omar and President Trump have in common is that they both work in Washington DC.
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Apr 28, 2019 21:43
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Dammerung posted:This is absolutely infuriating. Talking about holding "both sides of the aisle" accountable is an excruciatingly terrible false equivalency - as far as I'm concerned, the only things Congresswoman Omar and President Trump have in common is that they both work in Washington DC. That's a generous definition of work.
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Apr 28, 2019 21:49
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Ague Proof posted:That's a generous definition of work. I mean, who else could arrange those enormous fast food feasts, or pretend to sign documents?
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Apr 28, 2019 22:02
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Literally the only people who can feel 100% safe worshipping are white Christians. Not black Christians, not Jews not Muslims not Sikhs and iirc that's just going over 2018. Jesus Christ.
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Apr 28, 2019 22:08
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Dammerung posted:This is absolutely infuriating. Talking about holding "both sides of the aisle" accountable is an excruciatingly terrible false equivalency - as far as I'm concerned, the only things Congresswoman Omar and President Trump have in common is that they both work in Washington DC. Hasn't Trump spent more time at Mar-a-Lago than in DC?
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Apr 28, 2019 22:08
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Pembroke Fuse posted:Hasn't Trump spent more time at Mar-a-Lago than in DC? One thing that I know is that, for all the poo poo everyone gave Obama, I think Dirty Donnie out-spent him by his first year, too. Like, for the whole 8 years Barack was pres.
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Apr 28, 2019 22:15
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Pembroke Fuse posted:Hasn't Trump spent more time at Mar-a-Lago than in DC? *Only* 91 days, and more of his time as president has been spent away from the White House than in it. I'm gonna have to give myself two Pinocchios for my error!
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Apr 28, 2019 22:16
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jojoinnit posted:Literally the only people who can feel 100% safe worshipping are white Christians. Not black Christians, not Jews not Muslims not Sikhs and iirc that's just going over 2018. Jesus Christ. Pretty sure some white Christian tourists died in the Sri Lanka bombings.
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Apr 28, 2019 22:17
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qkkl posted:Pretty sure some white Christian tourists died in the Sri Lanka bombings. Yeah sorry I was specifically referring to America, not trying to downplay anything about that. Just in my head that American Christians are the loudest and most vocal about oppression but nobody is sitting in a suburban white church worried about a shooter. Apologies for that coming out wrong.
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Apr 28, 2019 22:29
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Apr 28, 2019 22:33
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jojoinnit posted:Literally the only people who can feel 100% safe worshipping are white Christians. Not black Christians, not Jews not Muslims not Sikhs and iirc that's just going over 2018. Jesus Christ.
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Apr 28, 2019 22:38
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Yeah looks like someone forgot about the Texas church massacre.
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Apr 28, 2019 22:39
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SoggyBobcat posted:Not even. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knoxville_Unitarian_Universalist_church_shooting what was the one that happend last year, where the weird chud dude shot up that church in texas.
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Apr 28, 2019 22:40
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sutherland springs was a domestic violence thing it wasn't someone targeting people specifically because of antichristian animus.
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Apr 28, 2019 22:41
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Groovelord Neato posted:sutherland springs was a domestic violence thing it wasn't someone targeting people specifically because of antichristian animus. true but i think it shows that these reactionary types will just hit places that are convenient.
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Apr 28, 2019 22:43
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It’s America, if you’re out in a large group in public you’re at risk of being murdered. The thought that someone would come in with a gun and start mowing us down came into my mind multiple times when I was watching Endgame on Opening Night.
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Apr 28, 2019 22:43
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Yeah looks like someone forgot about the Texas church massacre. To be fair, they were more of a random target from a disturbed person, rather than a target chosen for explicit political and racist reasons from a disturbed person. There are regular threats of violence to Black Churches, Synagogues, and Mosques that have no comparison to white churches. The white church shootings are much more akin to a school/workplace shooting than the terroristic attacks on non-white places of worship.
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Apr 28, 2019 22:45
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:It’s America, if you’re out in a large group in public you’re at risk of being murdered. The thought that someone would come in with a gun and start mowing us down came into my mind multiple times when I was watching Endgame on Opening Night. That's true but all groups other than white christians are exponentially more at risk.
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Apr 28, 2019 22:46
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SoggyBobcat posted:Not even. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knoxville_Unitarian_Universalist_church_shooting Uniterian Universalists are not Christian churches, though they may have Christian members. Ask most White Evangelicals how they feel about Uniterian Universalists.
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Apr 28, 2019 22:53
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Google Butt posted:That's true but all groups other than white christians are exponentially more at risk. Exactly. Any of you trying to say otherwise are showing your rear end.
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Apr 28, 2019 22:54
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RasperFat posted:To be fair, they were more of a random target from a disturbed person, rather than a target chosen for explicit political and racist reasons from a disturbed person. The black churches weren't attacked because they were Christian. I'm actually not sure if there have been ANY religiously-motivated attacks against Christians in America since colonial times. But that wouldn't be surprising since an overwhelming percent of the population is Christian.
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Apr 28, 2019 22:56
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I'm going to try not to post while angry again because all I've done is managed to get so worked up about some specific shootings that I'm forgetting other attacks and all its doing is making me more angry that my anger is blinding me to how hosed up things are in general. Nobody is safe, not little kindergartens, not movie theaters, not parades... Thinking how Dylan Roof sat amongst worshippers before opening fire on people who welcomed him into their church without question is honestly choking me up right now and all these other recent attacks keep bringing that one back into focus for me sharply and it's unhealthy to dwell on this. Gonna take a thread break, peace.
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Apr 28, 2019 22:57
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qkkl posted:The black churches weren't attacked because they were Christian. I'm actually not sure if there have been ANY religiously-motivated attacks against Christians in America since colonial times. But that wouldn't be surprising since an overwhelming percent of the population is Christian. That’s exactly my point. The white churches were shot up for interpersonal reasons. Black churches are shot up to send a message of fear to the black community.
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Apr 28, 2019 22:58
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RandomBlue posted:Uniterian Universalists are not Christian churches, though they may have Christian members. Ask most White Evangelicals how they feel about Uniterian Universalists. Fine, but let’s also remember that the vast majority of “Christian” congregations espouse views that are totally at odds with the words of the dead socialist they pretend to worship as a god as recorded in their own holy book.
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Apr 28, 2019 23:01
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RandomBlue posted:Uniterian Universalists are not Christian churches, though they may have Christian members. Ask most White Evangelicals how they feel about Uniterian Universalists. To be fair, they think everyone else are heretical sects who are, at best, being led astray by Satan. And that's just the other Evangelical churches in their town, everyone else are quite clearly satanists.
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Apr 28, 2019 23:06
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Loucks posted:Fine, but let’s also remember that the vast majority of “Christian” congregations espouse views that are totally at odds with the words of the dead socialist they pretend to worship as a god as recorded in their own holy book. Christians refusing to accept other Christians that regularly worship and self identify as Christian is always hilarious. I think it’s mostly an attempt to distance themselves from beliefs they see as obviously crazy and wrong, but it always comes across as condescending and petty.
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Apr 28, 2019 23:09
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jojoinnit posted:Yeah sorry I was specifically referring to America, not trying to downplay anything about that. Just in my head that American Christians are the loudest and most vocal about oppression but nobody is sitting in a suburban white church worried about a shooter. Apologies for that coming out wrong. You’ll find that a lot of suburban white churches are terrified of the idea of an attacker kicking down the door and killing them, while having the lowest chance of such a thing happening. My father earlier today after church pleaded for me to find a job where I don’t work late. He seemed convinced that roving gangs of immigrants come out as the sun sets like vampires to prey upon prayers.
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Apr 28, 2019 23:12
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RasperFat posted:Christians refusing to accept other Christians that regularly worship and self identify as Christian is always hilarious. I’m not a Christian and haven’t been for twenty years. But sure, rejecting sects based on prosperity gospel / gently caress you, got mine is necessarily condescending and petty, not calling out beliefs obviously incompatible with the fundamental messages of the Christian New Testament. 
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Apr 28, 2019 23:18
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:It’s America, if you’re out in a large group in public you’re at risk of being murdered. The thought that someone would come in with a gun and start mowing us down came into my mind multiple times when I was watching Endgame on Opening Night. As a non-American this post is super loving depressing to read. 
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Apr 28, 2019 23:18
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qkkl posted:The black churches weren't attacked because they were Christian. I'm actually not sure if there have been ANY religiously-motivated attacks against Christians in America since colonial times. But that wouldn't be surprising since an overwhelming percent of the population is Christian. The famously homogenous religion of Christianity.
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Apr 28, 2019 23:20
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Furnaceface posted:As a non-American this post is super loving depressing to read. Don't worry, in America everyone gets a handgun in their popcorn (no magazine refills)
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Apr 28, 2019 23:21
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Jeepers, everyone in Northern Ireland is Christian. Must be a place absent any religious tension or violence.
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Apr 28, 2019 23:24
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Not yet anyway, give them until October to see if the troubles start again.
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Apr 28, 2019 23:25
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Grape posted:The famously homogenous religion of Christianity. Grape posted:Jeepers, everyone in Northern Ireland is Christian. Must be a place absent any religious tension or violence. They're specifically discussing Christianity in America.
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Apr 28, 2019 23:25
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Loucks posted:Fine, but let’s also remember that the vast majority of “Christian” congregations espouse views that are totally at odds with the words of the dead socialist they pretend to worship as a god as recorded in their own holy book. Gyges posted:To be fair, they think everyone else are heretical sects who are, at best, being led astray by Satan. And that's just the other Evangelical churches in their town, everyone else are quite clearly satanists. Yes but you're ignoring the fact that Uniterians themselves don't think of themselves as Christian churches. Soggybobcat was trying to use them to counter someone else's statements about Christians when they're not a Christian church. That was my point. https://www.uua.org/beliefs
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gently caress SNEEP posted:They're specifically discussing Christianity in America. lol, yes and? 
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