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This is one of the consequences of public schools having their language programs gutted. I grew up in semi-rural Ohio and went to public schools and was forced to take a second language every year of middle school and high school (I wanted to anyway but it wasn't an option not to, which pissed off a lot of idiots). You had your choice of spanish, french, german, or latin (LOL). Learning even one other language when you are young makes learning new ones much easier. By the time my youngest sibling had graduated they had dropped the requirement because of all the yokels bitching that "we don't need to know no foreign speak to bring in the crops!" and new football gear doesn't pay for itself at the high school level.
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yeah language classes are invaluable. French and Spanish should be mandatory.
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Apr 29, 2019 14:17
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etalian posted:Also every spanish speaking co-worker I've worked with was interested in learning and improving their english at work. They care more about keeping everything the same than being decent human beings.
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Apr 29, 2019 14:38
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euphronius posted:yeah language classes are invaluable. Sorry, but French is useless since only the French (and dumb Canadians) speak French.  Spanish is definitely invaluable though. And if you know Spanish, you basically know Italian since they are extremely similar.However, some people do have trouble learning other languages, especially at older ages. I am not particularly good at languages. Also, I worked in a pizza place for a while that had a bunch of Mexicans working in it too and some of them would make fun of my accent whenever I tried to speak some of the few Spanish phrases I know to them. Now generally speaking those who did were assholes personality wise, but stuff like that can be discouraging when trying to learn even just a few phrases from coworkers.
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Apr 29, 2019 14:39
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Esperanto, yo.
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Apr 29, 2019 14:41
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my man French is spoken all over Africa.
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Apr 29, 2019 14:42
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euphronius posted:my man French is spoken all over Africa. Oh yeah...I tend to forget that the French did a lot of colonizing there. But still, gently caress French. Make those frogs speak American for saving their rear end in WW2!
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Apr 29, 2019 14:44
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America is France's fault but TBF the English deserved it.
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Apr 29, 2019 14:45
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TMMadman posted:Sorry, but French is useless since only the French (and dumb Canadians) speak French. Don't feel bad dude, I'm a Mexican American and people still make fun of my Spanish, even though it's pretty good Mexicans make fun of everyone extremely harshly, it's the thing that makes us get along with Black people well
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Apr 29, 2019 14:47
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ElGroucho posted:Don't feel bad dude, I'm a Mexican American and people still make fun of my Spanish, even though it's pretty good The ones who made fun of my accent were also usually the ones who escalate things quickly. For example, throwing little pea sized balls of pizza dough at coworkers is a time honored game in a pizza place. But if one of those guys threw one at you and then you returned the favor a little while later, the next thing you know, you'd end up with a golf ball sized piece of dough whipped full speed at you from like 10-15 feet away. I always felt like most of those guys could dish it out, but refused to take it, and when they did take it, the response would be over the top compared to what they received. If that makes any sense.
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Apr 29, 2019 14:55
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euphronius posted:French and Spanish should be mandatory.
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Apr 29, 2019 14:57
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Move to Florida and learn Creole. It's infinitely easier than French and more fun to speak.
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Apr 29, 2019 14:57
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pathetic little tramp posted:Move to Florida 
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Apr 29, 2019 15:02
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pathetic little tramp posted:Move to Florida mods? MODS?!
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Apr 29, 2019 15:03
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mkultra419 posted:This is one of the consequences of public schools having their language programs gutted. I grew up in semi-rural Ohio and went to public schools and was forced to take a second language every year of middle school and high school (I wanted to anyway but it wasn't an option not to, which pissed off a lot of idiots). You had your choice of spanish, french, german, or latin (LOL). Learning even one other language when you are young makes learning new ones much easier. By the time my youngest sibling had graduated they had dropped the requirement because of all the yokels bitching that "we don't need to know no foreign speak to bring in the crops!" and new football gear doesn't pay for itself at the high school level. I'll actually stan for Latin a little bit here, it makes learning any Romance language much easier and because it's inflected you learn how case and declension work, which English speakers seem to really struggle with. I did three years of Latin and now I'm learning Russian and I feel it helped me a lot. also your English vocabulary will sneakily get better because so many ten dollar words have Latin origins.
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Apr 29, 2019 15:06
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pathetic little tramp posted:Move to Florida hard pass
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Apr 29, 2019 15:07
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if you want to learn kreyol, Montreal or NYC are good options as well 
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Apr 29, 2019 15:10
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TMMadman posted:The ones who made fun of my accent were also usually the ones who escalate things quickly. Toxic masculinity is everywhere 
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Apr 29, 2019 15:13
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this belongs here i think
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Apr 29, 2019 15:24
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French is good for Southeast Asia too, because colonialism. It’s the best language for traveling after English if you’re gonna leave the New World. Also the Americans making fun of the French thing is totally passé. Their healthcare, housing, parental leave, social security, and welfare programs are all way better/more extant than ours.
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Apr 29, 2019 15:26
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Bass Concert Hall posted:French is good for Southeast Asia too, because colonialism. It’s the best language for traveling after English if you’re gonna leave the New World. yeah but did you know that the French surrendered to the nazis? twice! really makes you think.
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Apr 29, 2019 15:30
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Bass Concert Hall posted:French is good for Southeast Asia too, because colonialism. It’s the best language for traveling after English if you’re gonna leave the New World. When I was cycling in France a couple of years ago everyone was incredibly nice even though none of us could speak any French beyond "merci" and "bon jour" and we were in the mountains where nobody really spoke English. But go figure, being polite instead of an rear end in a top hat goes a long way toward how you are treated in return.
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Apr 29, 2019 15:31
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Bass Concert Hall posted:Also the Americans making fun of the French thing is totally passé. Their healthcare, housing, parental leave, social security, and welfare programs are all way better/more extant than ours.
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Apr 29, 2019 15:32
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I don't know any Spanish at all, but I think it is good to learn languages in general to expand your horizons, so I learned English.
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Apr 29, 2019 15:33
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Heartcatch posted:I don't know any Spanish at all, but I think it is good to learn languages in general to expand your horizons, so I learned English. I'm impressed by your commitment to masochism.
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Apr 29, 2019 15:36
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My Mississippi high school had German of all things. I don't regret taking it (got to actually visit Germany which was freakin awesome) but it has not been useful at all since.
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Apr 29, 2019 15:37
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besides, according to the future historical documentary Firefly you should all be learning Chinese as a second language
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Apr 29, 2019 15:38
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i have to go to France for work in june and i sure do wish i spoke some of it lol. i just started doing duolingo for it and hopefully i can at least communicate a bit since ill have to get around without a car. I've done spanish with that app for a few years so at least i can infer some stuff based on commonalities shared. otoh, im fat enough to be "visibly american" so im sure they'll understand why im a hapless moron
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Byzantine posted:My Mississippi high school had German of all things. I don't regret taking it (got to actually visit Germany which was freakin awesome) but it has not been useful at all since. I want to learn German but from one of those classes out in Amish country so I speak in a goofy 17th century dialect or some poo poo
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Eat This Glob posted:i have to go to France for work in june and i sure do wish i spoke some of it lol. i just started doing duolingo for it and hopefully i can at least communicate a bit since ill have to get around without a car. I've done spanish with that app for a few years so at least i can infer some stuff based on commonalities shared. otoh, im fat enough to be "visibly american" so im sure they'll understand why im a hapless moron pro tip I got from someone who lived there and it was absolutely true, say "merci" a lot Like, if you're not sure what to say, say "merci" Contrary to popular belief, the French don't hate Americans, they hate arrogant/rude/impolite Americans
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Agean90 posted:I want to learn German but from one of those classes out in Amish country so I speak in a goofy 17th century dialect or some poo poo The Amish speak Dutch, which sounds like a goofy dialect of German.
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Zeroisanumber posted:I'm impressed by your commitment to masochism. To be fair, learning English is part of the curriculum in most Asian schools. Learning it badly, mostly. English orthography is something to behold though.
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Apr 29, 2019 15:41
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Just-In-Timeberlake posted:
what is the distinction here.
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Apr 29, 2019 15:41
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Just-In-Timeberlake posted:besides, according to the future historical documentary Firefly you should all be learning Chinese as a second language Friend of mine is from China and she loved Firefly because the Chinese swears were fantastically dirty.
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Nothus posted:The Amish speak Dutch, which sounds like a goofy dialect of German. ??? Ones in thinking of speak German, they're called the Pennsylvania Dutch as a corruption of deutch
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Just-In-Timeberlake posted:pro tip I got from someone who lived there and it was absolutely true, say "merci" a lot merci, mon dude. really, it is appreciated. i dont know a damned thing
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Apr 29, 2019 15:43
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the Amish do not speak Dutch.
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stroll into Berlin and inform everyone that I talk like a 18th century farmer because I was taught wrong on purpose, as a joke
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euphronius posted:the Amish do not speak Dutch. you dont know what they get up to on rumspringa. they might do some kinky poo poo like speak dutch
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Creole is fun. There’s like no conjugation or tenses. When you know a few words to jam together, feeling like it’s probably real clumsy but might be understood, turns out yep that’s exactly how it’s supposed to be said.
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