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corn in the bible posted:incorrect, the Dying Dog episode is worse than all voyager ones I unironically would love to own the Drowned Pupper Prop, it would be a phenomenal point of interest in my home.
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corn in the bible posted:incorrect, the Dying Dog episode is worse than all voyager ones I don't mind that episode at all. Archer being a big idiot about his dog as everyone rolls their eyes at him is kind of endearing. Also I just watched the second Irish village holodeck episode, it somehow manages to be worse than the first one, loving hell. Really portrays the Irish as backwards superstitious yokels. They even try to burn Tom and Harry. And holodecks should be banned, their safety features clearly aren't up to the task.
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May 5, 2019 14:15
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Orv posted:Miles O'Brien's No Good Very Bad Time Day might be my favorite DS9 side episode. You are seriously going to have to be more specific
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May 5, 2019 14:23
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Visionary right
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marktheando posted:I don't mind that episode at all. Archer being a big idiot about his dog as everyone rolls their eyes at him is kind of endearing. now, delete the wife
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May 5, 2019 14:41
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Night in Sickbay was funny. I liked Phlox's wacky animals.
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corn in the bible posted:now, delete the wife lol It's weird to think that, given the open door holodeck policy, leaving it running 24/7 and letting all crew members visit, Janeway probably wasn't alone in the holodeck when she slept with her Irish holo-boyfriend. The Bloop posted:You are seriously going to have to be more specific It's very true.
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Brawnfire posted:Night in Sickbay was funny. I liked Phlox's wacky animals. Wasn't that the one where Archer starts a diplomatic incident because he kept bringing his loving dog with him on away missions? They made it hard to like that guy despite Scott bakula
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Tighclops posted:Wasn't that the one where Archer starts a diplomatic incident because he kept bringing his loving dog with him on away missions? They made it hard to like that guy despite Scott bakula He was also indignant about how the natives were insulted and wanted some form of compensation even though it was his own drat fault for bringing a dog on a diplomatic mission.
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Archer was an ignorant dumbass and that’s why he’s interesting a lot of the time. T’Pol and Phlox are the only characters who have any idea what’s going on at any point, and keep trying to knock some sense into these human space toddlers.
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HD DAD posted:Archer was an ignorant dumbass and that’s why he’s interesting a lot of the time. T’Pol and Phlox are the only characters who have any idea what’s going on at any point, and keep trying to knock some sense into these human space toddlers. Archer sucks most of the time because they clearly wanted a Kirk-type action hero captain but because they wrote him as an ignorant moron he consistently makes lovely choices and comes off like an incompetent boob I think a guy like that would make for an interesting recurring character like Barclay, but doing "the captain of our show is an idiot" as a gimmick was vexing whether they truly meant it or not
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I'm not seeing how it's vexing. As someone else pointed out, this isn't someone from the Trek era where they have an encyclopedic knowledge of every culture they are going to come across. He's out of his depth, sure, but he's doing his best, trying for better, but can't help being annoyed at things from time to time. Like, sure, I wouldn't let my dog piddle on something without asking, but at the same time, I'm sure I'd get annoyed if I wasn't told the thing my dog likes to pee on is a Holy Artifact or something.
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"theme song roundup" hasn't really touched on the Disco theme song. I liked it a lot. The opening reminds me a lot of TNG, and it's not too epic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0MFmhCS08A e: also I didn't realize Jeff Russo also did the score for the Fargo TV show Snow Cone Capone fucked around with this message at 18:47 on May 5, 2019 |
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May 5, 2019 18:45
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Irish Yokels. Where did you think US Yokels came from?
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MisterBibs posted:I'm not seeing how it's vexing. As someone else pointed out, this isn't someone from the Trek era where they have an encyclopedic knowledge of every culture they are going to come across. He's out of his depth, sure, but he's doing his best, trying for better, but can't help being annoyed at things from time to time. This is my biggest problem with the aliens. They know that humans are aliens to them! Try communicating a little better, set out some limits, provide an escort. Don't let them wander up to holy poo poo without letting them know it's holy, because you don't know what an alien's gonna do! Bring three species up to a toilet, one might piss in it, but another might start drinking out of it and yet another might hop in and start swimming around.
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He's an idiot because he brings his dog on away missions. gently caress's sake.
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May 5, 2019 19:00
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There's also the consideration that the NX was very not ready to launch yet, so Archer probably hadn't been ever briefed on what aliens they were running into. He would normally have had helpful files and time to prepare for contact, but they stumbled out blindly into the galaxy instead with two aliens who were both just kinda there to see what happens.
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May 5, 2019 19:00
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It makes sense for Archer to be wrong about stuff, but they make him way too wrong way too often. In two of the first three episodes of the show the conflict is just that Archer is a bonehead who does the wrong thing while Tpol tells him “don’t do wrong thing”.
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May 5, 2019 19:13
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skasion posted:It makes sense for Archer to be wrong about stuff, but they make him way too wrong way too often. In two of the first three episodes of the show the conflict is just that Archer is a bonehead who does the wrong thing while Tpol tells him “don’t do wrong thing”. Yeah, humans being out of their depth is one thing, but "don't bring your dog on a sensitive diplomatic mission" isn't really beyond our depth.
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Tighclops posted:He's an idiot because he brings his dog on away missions. gently caress's sake.
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May 5, 2019 19:42
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Dogs have as much right to explore the galaxy as humans do. Maybe more.
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May 5, 2019 19:55
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It would've made more sense for the "okay maybe we shouldn't take dogs down to the surface" moment of realization to occur during a "shore leave planet we were pretty sure was safe turns out to be dangerous" plot
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May 5, 2019 19:58
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Archer getting his captaincy mainly through nepotism also felt pretty real. Especially once you meet Erika Hernandez who's better in every possible way than Archer but had to wait like four years to get her ship.
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Delsaber posted:Archer getting his captaincy mainly through nepotism also felt pretty real. Especially once you meet Erika Hernandez who's better in every possible way than Archer but had to wait like four years to get her ship.
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Snow Cone Capone posted:"theme song roundup" hasn't really touched on the Disco theme song. Reminds me a lot of the Fringe soundtrack. At least the undercurrent https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20EO4XMBQgM marktheando posted:Also I just watched the second Irish village holodeck episode, it somehow manages to be worse than the first one, loving hell. Really portrays the Irish as backwards superstitious yokels. They even try to burn Tom and Harry. And holodecks should be banned, their safety features clearly aren't up to the task. They're not wrong.
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galenanorth posted:It would've made more sense for the "okay maybe we shouldn't take dogs down to the surface" moment of realization to occur during a "shore leave planet we were pretty sure was safe turns out to be dangerous" plot This is an excellent point. Knowingly taking variables into a complex diplomatic situation is... no es inteligente.
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The best DS9 episode is the union one, because it is funny, it comments on important social issues, and it shows real character growth.
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The weirdest thing with Archer for me wasnt just him being a blustery fuckup, but having all the other characters constantly talk about what a great leader he is and how they'd follow him to their graves despite how seldom we're shown him doing anything to warrant that praise.
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Peachfart posted:The best DS9 episode is the union one, because it is funny, it comments on important social issues, and it shows real character growth. no you're doing it wrong see you're supposed to care about how many Spocks per minute the show has
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Why exactly does Lore suck? It’s such an on point idea and he’s well acted... but yet, his presence just seems to drag the show down.
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Timeless Appeal posted:Why exactly does Lore suck? It’s such an on point idea and he’s well acted... but yet, his presence just seems to drag the show down. You're right, and I don't know either. Every time Lore appears, it seems to be with a cooler enemy that he's leeching off of. The crystalline entity? Cool. Lore? Eh. Borg? Cool. Descent Borg? Eehhhhhhhhhh
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Timeless Appeal posted:Why exactly does Lore suck? It’s such an on point idea and he’s well acted... but yet, his presence just seems to drag the show down. Brent Spiner is at maximum moustache-twirling ham.
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Lore is interesting in theory, but in execution he's just Data's evil twin.
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Timeless Appeal posted:Why exactly does Lore suck? It’s such an on point idea and he’s well acted... but yet, his presence just seems to drag the show down. He's an extremely pure example of the evil twin. Which is fine as far as it goes, but it also means there's not very much beyond that to make him interesting. He might impersonate the good twin, or he might try to tempt the good twin to be evil too. So he did both of those, and then there really aren't many other stories to do with him, since he's not very well fleshed out beyond "evil".
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I like Lore a lot in Brothers, but he's too comic book for his own good in Datalore and especially Descent. That said, I would've taken him over B4 in Nemesis. It wouldn't have saved that movie, but every little bit helps.
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May 5, 2019 21:57
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May 5, 2019 21:58
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I also hate that there's like three or four Datas now, whereas he was once the only android at his level of sophistication in all known human space.
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Easy and quick Nemesis fixes: - Lore instead of B4 - Shinzon literally just played by Patrick Stewart. Forget the “young Picard” angle and just make him regular Picard via the Romulans.
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lmao my hometown's comic con booked Chase Masterson and her billing poster filmography is DS9 and... The Flash? That she was in one episode of??
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lol but posted:spiner is actually p. terrible when not being data  PEACE. NO PEACE.
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