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The Dregs posted:Also you can't hold a drawn bow for more than a few seconds without some serious strain. At least not a old style bow like they have, I'd guess it's possible with modern pulley bows. That's literally most of the reason for compound bows. The pulleys make it so at full draw your holding like 10% of the full draw weight.
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Kings landing looking awfully deserty. Theres still two episodes for Dany to poo poo in the desert.
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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:In an impartial system, the current dynasty is Baratheon. But Gendry can only be legitimized by a rightful king/queen, so if Daenrys is the queen Gendry can't take over, and if she isn't the queen she can't legitimize him. 
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May 6, 2019 15:36
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I liked the bit where the stuff happened. Wait was that this episode or the last one?
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May 6, 2019 15:36
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Next Episode better be 80% Cleganebowl.
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May 6, 2019 15:37
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One of the leaks says the Cleganebowl is going to be a mercy killing by Sandor on a severely dragon burned Mountain.
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Kurt Loadeater posted:Man you are digging real deep to discover lil nuggets of poo poo no one else has complained about yet I almost made a joke a couple of weeks ago about how bronn would somehow corner both jamie and tyrion and shoot them in quick succession with the crossbow, but they somehow did worse and had bronn fire a warning shot. the whole tension of the scene depends on the viewer not understanding how a crossbow works
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The Dregs posted:Also you can't hold a drawn bow for more than a few seconds without some serious strain. the archer guy in the brotherhood without banners taught Arya this in season 3 
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Drone Jett posted:But Gendry can only be legitimized by a rightful king/queen, so if Daenrys is the queen Gendry can't take over, and if she isn't the queen she can't legitimize him. dany attacks kings landing, cersei dies. dany dies after being crowned. jon abdicates. gendry is rightfully heir to the iron throne. arya rips off his face, laughs maniacally. the true mad queen has only begun.
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i enjoyed the episode but Jamie going back to Cersei might be the dumbest thing in the show thus far, no exaggeration
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poverty goat posted:I almost made a joke a couple of weeks ago about how bronn would somehow corner both jamie and tyrion and shoot them in quick succession with the crossbow, but they somehow did worse and had bronn fire a warning shot. the whole tension of the scene depends on the viewer not understanding how a crossbow works He reloaded it. It was the special quickload one that Joffrey had right?
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May 6, 2019 15:44
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here's a man reloading a medieval crossbow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-8eOBOffi4&t=106s
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Gendry is a true Baratheon (idiot moron) and asking Arya to be a "lady" was obviously not going to fly. He's so entrenched in the cocktriarchy that he can't think of a unique partnership proposal at all. She's too good for him and I wish he had been caught through the wall by Bronn's bolt. Has Arya met Yara? I feel like they'd make a good couple. Also they should've spent this season's Ghost CGI budget on one scene where he dies and then next episode Jon can cry over his dog tag or something, that would've been 1000 times better than what we got. The pacing of this episode sucked, between the goodbyes and the teleportation and the fuckin ballistas. I haven't rewatched but did they even bother to show a pit crew reloading them quickly? Just yikes.
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May 6, 2019 15:48
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You know I could suspend disbelief when it comes to fire breathing dragons and ice zomies but I just cant get passed their unrealistic depiction of crossbow operation
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Kurt Loadeater posted:You know I could suspend disbelief when it comes to fire breathing dragons and ice zomies but I just cant get passed their unrealistic depiction of crossbow operation This is dumb. A dragon doesn't exist in real life, a scorpion does. And in real life, scorpions/crossbows/arrows are pretty poo poo at being dead accurate against moving targets, much less accurate against moving flying targets with incredibly powerful scales. They're also pretty poo poo at exploding boats. In this poo poo series, the greater insult is that they did try to ground things in reality in earlier episodes/books and have the dragons be an insurmountable foe within that framework. Imagine if LOTR just had Bilbo show up with a catapult but it's 100% accurate and can fling the Ring into Mt. Doom all the way from Osgiliath.
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Really deep and poetic that Misandry’s last word was telling Daenerys to burn them all.
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Kurt Loadeater posted:You know I could suspend disbelief when it comes to fire breathing dragons and ice zomies but I just cant get passed their unrealistic depiction of crossbow operation Don't forget the archers drawing a bow with a ~100 pound draw weight and holding it for nearly a whole minute.
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May 6, 2019 16:09
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why didn't dany make the dragons gently caress so she could get more dragons??
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Zippy the Bummer posted:i enjoyed the episode but Jamie going back to Cersei might be the dumbest thing in the show thus far, no exaggeration It can only possibly make sense if Jaime intends to kill Cersei and fulfill his arc. He was painted as a dishonorable "kingslayer" for killing the Mad King, and he understands now he has to end Cersei's reign for the good of the realm Instead he will probably get a beej from his sister and then she will try to kill him with the poison lipstick but whoa it'll actually be Arya who killed Jaime because ???? and is wearing his face
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Weaponized Autism posted:why didn't dany make the dragons gently caress so she could get more dragons?? Because then we would have seen dragon dick and that would mean Tormund would actually be the second coolest thing in the show.
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jokes posted:This is dumb. A dragon doesn't exist in real life, a scorpion does. And in real life, scorpions/crossbows/arrows are pretty poo poo at being dead accurate against moving targets, much less accurate against moving flying targets with incredibly powerful scales. They're also pretty poo poo at exploding boats. nitpicking stupid poo poo like this to death is dumb as its something 100% of all tv and cinema is guilty of when it comes to weapons
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poverty goat posted:here's a man reloading a medieval crossbow I gave it a pass because Bronn is right, even if they rushed them he'd have hosed them both up in short order. He may have been exaggerating when he said Jaime couldn't take him when he was at his best, but Jaime certainly wouldn't have a chance now.
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Solice Kirsk posted:He reloaded it. It was the special quickload one that Joffrey had right? Yeah. Joffrey's crossbow had that lever reload mechanism, though I have no clue if real crossbows eventually had that to reload.
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That Bronn scene was easily the most stupid thing I've ever seen.
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poverty goat posted:here's a man reloading a medieval crossbow There were alot of different types of crossbows around. Many weren't even close to being so complicated and reloading them was just a matter of manually pulling back the bowstring to the hook (which would take just as long/short a time as with a normal bow really). They wouldn't necessarily be much more powerful than a bow either, though you can make very strong crossbows by using stirrups and winches and such to enable use of a bow you couldn't really draw manually. Though ultimately that isn't really the point of a crossbow or their greatest strength (and those really powerful ones didn't really begin to show up until the 1300s-1400s in any case), which is simply that compared to a bow they are exceedingly easy to use and that a man doesn't have to spend years training with one to acquire the proper strength and physique to be able to effectively use one powerful enough for war. You could probably teach a man to be an effective enough soldier with a crossbow in a matter of days, which is probably why it was such a popular weapon with mercenaries. Randarkman fucked around with this message at 16:41 on May 6, 2019 |
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LadyPictureShow posted:Yeah. Joffrey's crossbow had that lever reload mechanism, though I have no clue if real crossbows eventually had that to reload. he had a chu-ko-nu
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imagine being a dumbass and liking this show bring back rome
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jokes posted:This is dumb. A dragon doesn't exist in real life, a scorpion does. And in real life, scorpions/crossbows/arrows are pretty poo poo at being dead accurate against moving targets, much less accurate against moving flying targets with incredibly powerful scales. They're also pretty poo poo at exploding boats. 
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Tormund/Ghost spinoff please.
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there's plenty of legit gripes to have about this show but accurate depiction of crossbow operation is definitely not one of them
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ROFLburger posted:there's plenty of legit gripes to have about this show but accurate depiction of crossbow operation is definitely not one of them Accurate depiction of crossbows aside, using wwhat's essentially a single shot weapon that requires a considerable and awkward reload time to give a warning shot is exceedingly stupid. It would make sense with a gun which can be fired again simply by pulling a trigger, but these guys don't really have guns do they and writing it into your medieval show without giving thought to how it makes no sense is really stupid and terrible writing.
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LadyPictureShow posted:Yeah. Joffrey's crossbow had that lever reload mechanism, though I have no clue if real crossbows eventually had that to reload. Yup, the Chinese were quite famous with those very early in history: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repeating_crossbow Quite practical things. I'd assume more of those should be in GOT, but also they are expensive and also the Chinese in GOT are weirdos, so, bows are fine. Either way, weapon technology in a world where there is some sort of super magic steel that does fancy things is probably in general not too accurate either way, but at least they could improve it here and there. Not the biggest mistake the show makes, though.
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Wish I could rapidly cross bow this chat
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Randarkman posted:Accurate depiction of crossbows aside, using wwhat's essentially a single shot weapon that requires a considerable and awkward reload time to give a warning shot is exceedingly stupid. It would make sense with a gun which can be fired again simply by pulling a trigger, but these guys don't really have guns do they and writing it into your medieval show without giving thought to how it makes no sense is really stupid and terrible writing. This is stupid and terrible. the least stupid part of the episode was the veracity of bow weapon capabilities
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essos seems to have their poo poo together
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Besides, I've loosed a long-drawn arrow into flying targets numerous times, practically every time I bow hunt
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Weaponized Autism posted:why didn't dany make the dragons gently caress so she could get more dragons??
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Randarkman posted:Accurate depiction of crossbows aside, using wwhat's essentially a single shot weapon that requires a considerable and awkward reload time to give a warning shot is exceedingly stupid. It would make sense with a gun which can be fired again simply by pulling a trigger, but these guys don't really have guns do they and writing it into your medieval show without giving thought to how it makes no sense is really stupid and terrible writing. this can't be a serious post
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ROFLburger posted:this can't be a serious post Why not? Isn't that what happened in the show?
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