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WhyteRyce posted:bleh, I guess some trade-offs are expected but I was hoping it was limited to just the body and soc It's not an enormous trade-off. "High quality" in Google photos is still very good, especially when the majority of us are not doing prints of our phone photos and instead sharing them on social media or via a message, etc. Here's a decent rundown: https://www.phonearena.com/news/Google-Photos-High-quality-vs-Original-Whats-the-difference-and-should-you-care_id93938
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CLAM DOWN posted:It's not an enormous trade-off. "High quality" in Google photos is still very good, especially when the majority of us are not doing prints of our phone photos and instead sharing them on social media or via a message, etc. Here's a decent rundown: https://www.phonearena.com/news/Google-Photos-High-quality-vs-Original-Whats-the-difference-and-should-you-care_id93938 I do my videos in 4k though
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Well now that it’s official that the 3a and regular 3 are coming to T-Mobile I guess I need to decide if wireless charging and front-facing speakers are worth the little extra per month the JOD price will come out to.
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https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/05/07/pixel-3a-everything-new-different-or-removed-compared-to-the-pixel-3-and-3-xl/ Here's some changes from the 3as to the normal 3s. New: - Google added the headphone jack back to the 3a/3a XL because they believe that people who can't afford $600+ phones also can't afford Bluetooth headphones. So the Pixel 4 most likely will not have a headphone jack. (EDIT: I had to quote this because that just seems dense as gently caress but... quote:I spoke to Google about the decision to add the jack, and it was strictly about market demographics: Google sees these phones as targeting buyers who are less likely to have joined the Bluetooth headphone revolution just yet, and so they felt it was important to include on a mid-tier handset. - Time Lapse mode is new for Pixel devices and will be on all Pixels (1, 2, and 3) via OTA later but it debuts on the Pixel 3as first. You can do 5x, 10x, 30x, or 120x the original speed at 30 FPS. Different than Pixel 3: - Processor is slower and not as capable as the Pixel 3's.The GPU is also slower. If you play Fortnite, for example, it'll run at 20 FPS max. Touch latency and scrolling isn't very smooth either. - Display is not Gorilla Glass and has a lower resolution. It uses Dragontrail Glass. - The body is basically plastic. - The speakers are not front-facing. - Both of the 3as only have 4GB of RAM and 64GB of storage. No 128GB. Removed: - Pixel Visual Core - Wireless Charging - Unlimited original Google Photo uploads - Wide Angle Selfie Camera - No longer waterproof (no IP rating) - No headphones in box.
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Also available at best buy with $100 giftcard: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/google-pixel-3a-with-64gb-memory-cell-phone-unlocked-just-black/6347785.p?skuId=6347785
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Mister Facetious posted:I already own an SD821 though. I wish Pixel 3 was plastic. Glass is the dumbest thing.
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ThermoPhysical posted:Touch latency and scrolling isn't very smooth either. Welp.
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It looks like a great midrange phone for the price, that you know will work on ALL US Carriers which is something that can't be said for a lot of other China midrange devices. That and the guaranteed 3 years of updates, a great camera, and an OLED screen. Being Plastic is something I had been hoping that would make a return as heck the Nokia Lumia's were all awesome in their colors and didn't feel particularly cheap being made out of plastic all that time. What the heck is Dragontrail glass though? Didn't know anyone else was entering the phone glass market since Gorilla Glass has been the go to since what feels like forever now.
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Didn’t realize the visual core was gone too. Welp, guess I know which model I’m ordering tomorrow. Branch Nvidian fucked around with this message at 20:43 on May 7, 2019 |
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Welcome back nexus phones, people who wanted all these compromises missed you!EdEddnEddy posted:What the heck is Dragontrail glass though? Didn't know anyone else was entering the phone glass market since Gorilla Glass has been the go to since what feels like forever now. The Galaxy Nexus had it. It's fine. incoherent fucked around with this message at 20:41 on May 7, 2019 |
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Beta 3 going OTA now. 354MB for Pixel 3.
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If the processor we're better I'd be fine with all the other missing crap
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ThermoPhysical posted:
Look, a Nexus 5 in 2019 (Even the Nexus 5 had wireless charging though)
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ThermoPhysical posted:- Display is not Gorilla Glass and has a lower resolution. It uses Dragontrail Glass. This would all be fine..... if the phone were more affordable. Yeah, you'll get a great camera, but if you're already trying to save money there are a ton of much better choices already out there. This is a $300 phone at best, I would not want to pay $400+ for all of that. sourdough posted:I wish Pixel 3 was plastic. Glass is the dumbest thing. This though, this is the goddamn truth. Glass sucks rear end, and so does metal. There's a reason the pixel 2 had a coated metal back (hint, it's because metal sucks and nobody wants to hold a metal phone without a case). All it does is drastically increase price and weight with both metal and glass, and drastically reduces durability in the case of glass. All so some moronic reviewer can say the phone "feels premium"  The Nexus 5X was a lovely phone (though with a pretty good camera for its price at the time), but goddamn do I miss its plastic body.
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Personally, I still can't get over the "we added the headphone jack back because if you can't afford a $1,000 phone, you can't afford BT headphones" reasoning. What the gently caress. That's...pure Google right there. It's like they have a complete disconnect from the real world where things like cheapo $20 BT earbuds exist. Granted, they're terrible but still. 
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Taffer posted:This would all be fine..... if the phone were more affordable. Yeah, you'll get a great camera, but if you're already trying to save money there are a ton of much better choices already out there. This is a $300 phone at best, I would not want to pay $400+ for all of that. Good thing there's a plethora of deals cutting the price closer to what you want.
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Somewhere in Google HQ: Pixel Engineer: No ones going to buy this poo poo if we tack on premium prices for a plastic mid-range phone. Executive #1103: But we're the equivalent to iPhones! 
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ThermoPhysical posted:Personally, I still can't get over the "we added the headphone jack back because if you can't afford a $1,000 phone, you can't afford BT headphones" reasoning. What the gently caress. That's...pure Google right there. It's like they have a complete disconnect from the real world where things like cheapo $20 BT earbuds exist. I can easily afford Bluetooth headphones (  ) which I sometimes use but I will not buy a phone without a headphone jack. I'll probably pick up the 4a.
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The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Inspect Your Gadgets > The Android Thread - We can afford Bluetooth headphones!
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Taffer posted:This would all be fine..... if the phone were more affordable. Yeah, you'll get a great camera, but if you're already trying to save money there are a ton of much better choices already out there. This is a $300 phone at best, I would not want to pay $400+ for all of that. Good news: It comes with a $100 gift card free at Best Buy.
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Tetrabor posted:Somewhere in Google HQ: Camera number go up! Battery number go up! Do a gestures! ThermoPhysical posted:Personally, I still can't get over the "we added the headphone jack back because if you can't afford a $1,000 phone, you can't afford BT headphones" reasoning. What the gently caress. That's...pure Google right there. It's like they have a complete disconnect from the real world where things like cheapo $20 BT earbuds exist. I can't wear nice Bluetooth over-ears without having to take my glasses off. So I'm back to my cable earbuds with the adapter because they're discreet and, well, music comes out of them.
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Looks like Time Lapse isn't going to be exclusive to the 3as. It's available for the 1, 2, and 3 now via camera app update.
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Oh god, the fabric case for the 3a has a huge cutout up top for the headphone jack. Why didn't they just put it down at the bottom?
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ThermoPhysical posted:Looks like Time Lapse isn't going to be exclusive to the 3as. Google play is showing the last camera update was in March for me
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Hoobastank4ever97 posted:Google play is showing the last camera update was in March for me Got the information from Verge, it'll probably be out later. https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/7/18528484/google-pixel-time-lapse-camera-mode-feature-3a-3-2-io-2019 quote:The feature is available now on the Google Pixel, Pixel 2, and Pixel 3 via an update for the camera app. It will also be available on the new Google Pixel 3A and Pixel 3A XL.
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Branch Nvidian posted:Oh god, the fabric case for the 3a has a huge cutout up top for the headphone jack. Why didn't they just put it down at the bottom? Look, Google doesn't copy everything Apple does... 
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Branch Nvidian posted:Oh god, the fabric case for the 3a has a huge cutout up top for the headphone jack. Why didn't they just put it down at the bottom? that's how you know it's a poor people phone. see if you can spot them using the GO version of apps Google released, in their infinite benevolence, for use by those wretched souls outside the SF Bay area [e] They're apparently bundling 3a's with a Nest Hub - is that a newer version of the Home Hub? spincube fucked around with this message at 22:08 on May 7, 2019 |
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Mister Facetious posted:I already own an SD821 though. SD670 is faster than a SD821. It actually trades blows with the SD835. It's like a baby SD845. It's also basically just a lower clocked SD710. Seriously, the SD670 is a pretty drat nice mid-range SoC. https://www.androidcentral.com/qualcomm-snapdragon-670 bull3964 fucked around with this message at 22:12 on May 7, 2019 |
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So T-Mobile is running a bill credit deal to make the 3a essentially free with trade in of certain phones, including the Pixel 1XL. I currently have a P1XL and while I'm not strictly looking to upgrade, for free, I was thinking why not? I like that the body is smaller but the screen is essentially the same. I'm mostly concerned if the 3a is going to be snappier than the 1XL and if the screen isn't a total letdown compared to what I have now. I already have T-Mobile (and no plans of leaving) and while I don't like the idea of buying from a carrier, I can get over it for a free upgrade.
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bull3964 posted:SD670 is faster than a SD821. It actually trades blows with the SD835. Going by the published geekbench (I'm old fashioned; I need a quantifiable baseline) score, the 670 single core is basically the same as an 821 (~1850), and only a third better in multi.
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Rocking the new gestures on my Pixel 3XL. Already getting slightly annoyed at having to reach for the hamburger button in a few apps. The way Fluid Navigation Gestures handles it is slightly better. The back button guesture space doesn't reach all the way to the top, so a swipe from halfway up would act as the left swipe gesture instead. Some apps apparently have a generous left swipe option, like Slide for Reddit (shut up, you're on Reddit too), so if I swipe from almost-but-not-quite the edge I get the left swipe action instead of the back button. Really what needs to happen for this to work better is for app developers to update the back button to open the sidebar and we'll be all set, but we'll see how it all plays out.
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Mister Facetious posted:Going by the published geekbench (I'm old fashioned; I need a quantifiable baseline) score, the 670 single core is basically the same as an 821 (~1850), and only a third better in multi. 1/3rd better in multi is a pretty big deal. It's also on a smaller production process (10nm vs 14nm) so it's more power efficient and less likely to thermal throttle. I literally went from a SD820 device to a SD670 device and the difference was noticeable. SD710 is essentially the same chipset, just 200mhz higher on the performance cores. There's not much better in the mid-range market for Qualcomm. Likely the reason they didn't go with SD710 is that they didn't need the QHD+ display support. FHD+ was sufficient and those extra 200mhz peak were going to do gently caress all for overall performance. bull3964 fucked around with this message at 22:54 on May 7, 2019 |
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Humerus posted:So T-Mobile is running a bill credit deal to make the 3a essentially free with trade in of certain phones, including the Pixel 1XL. I currently have a P1XL and while I'm not strictly looking to upgrade, for free, I was thinking why not? I like that the body is smaller but the screen is essentially the same. I'm mostly concerned if the 3a is going to be snappier than the 1XL and if the screen isn't a total letdown compared to what I have now. holy poo poo I had no intention of getting a 3a but that trade-in offer for the Pixel is a no brainer
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Hah, so this is fun: switching between light and dark modes and back apparently fucks with notifications that have dark backgrounds. Here's how the Apple Music notification is supposed to look while playing an album with a dark cover: And here's what it looks like after toggling modes:  [Edit: it works the other way around too, lol]  On one hand, I get why Android is overriding colored notifications, as it would be annoying if an app hardcoded notifications that show as white even with dark mode enabled, but on the other hand I like having colored music notifications. I wonder what the cutoff is? Can anyone think of any super dark grey album covers? [Final edit: it's not just black or white covers, Android overwrites whatever color the app selects. Frick. 
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Celexi posted:Google made a really good job on releasing a phone that is DOA saleswise What phone are you talking about? The Pixel 3? The Pixel 2? The OG Pixel? Literally every Nexus phone that preceded those?
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