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orange juche posted:They like honest healers. Considering how powerfully dull healer DPS rotations are, I'm not exactly surprised.
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homeless snail posted:Fazzle is real, actually  It's on the internet, so, then, it must be true. 
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May 18, 2019 01:27
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SonicRulez posted:Rogue/Ninja has a very stable "Yeah, it's good" quality to its quests from 1 to 70. It owns.
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May 18, 2019 01:28
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They're not going to take away my auto attack, so my healer will never be honest.
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Cabbit posted:Considering how powerfully dull healer DPS rotations are, I'm not exactly surprised. Yeah they're dull but at least it feels like you're helping instead of sitting there mashing heal buttons and being bored off your rear end unless an AOE comes your way.
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May 18, 2019 01:29
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orange juche posted:Yeah they're dull but at least it feels like you're helping instead of sitting there mashing heal buttons and being bored off your rear end unless an AOE comes your way. I had a really awful thought the other day, which is that it would take very little work to turn WoW discipline priests into a better realized Final Fantasy 14 style healer than any of the actual FFXIV healer jobs-- or at least one with a more engaging DPS rotation. Like, replace the shield spam CD with an OGCD tank heal plus take their ground target DR bubble off the GCD and you're already a considerable way there.
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Cabbit posted:I had a really awful thought the other day, which is that it would take very little work to turn WoW discipline priests into a better realized Final Fantasy 14 style healer than any of the actual FFXIV healer jobs-- or at least one with a more engaging DPS rotation. Like, replace the shield spam CD with an OGCD tank heal plus take their ground target DR bubble off the GCD and you're already a considerable way there. The main difference is ffxiv healing emphatically doesn’t do healing through doing damage. It’s always been a trade off, especially when you consider how cleric stance used to work. It wouldn’t be as little work as you think.
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May 18, 2019 02:48
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May 18, 2019 03:02
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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:The main difference is ffxiv healing emphatically doesn’t do healing through doing damage. It’s always been a trade off, especially when you consider how cleric stance used to work. It wouldn’t be as little work as you think. No, see, but they should. That's my point: discipline priests are a better take on the idea of a healer who nukes stuff because it intermingles the two ideas. Basically my problem is that there's no interplay between the two things healers in XIV should be doing-- DPSing should feed into healing, and healing should feed into DPSing. There should be synergy and flow between the two sides; right now both sides are sequestered from each other, and I think it ends up making them feel shallow (especially the DPS side).
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First they came for the butt slider, but I said nothing because I wasn't a catgirl. Then they came for the assize, but I said nothing because I was an honest healer...
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May 18, 2019 03:19
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Cabbit posted:No, see, but they should. That's my point: discipline priests are a better take on the idea of a healer who nukes stuff because it intermingles the two ideas. What you actually want to play is Chloromancer from RIFT, aka the best healer class ever created in any game ever
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May 18, 2019 03:45
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ImpAtom posted:The Dankest Arts  Illuminati Dankest Gobweed
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Phone posted:who owns the ff14 kelly account? i saw your name and chairman on it The account was run by Seiferguy, who did something like 99% of the Kelly edits. I made a few in this thread too, but I think Seifer moved on to other things. They still have a Kelly av on the forums if I remember right. I like linking to the twitter because it's easier to find the comics that way. Anyway, today in dungeon adventures.  
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Kwyndig posted:I can believe that they considered removing the damage from Assize... I can't believe they would go through with it though unless they wanted to get rid of healer DPS entirely outside of solo content. It's both completely believable and probably for the best. Assize being WHM's main OGCD AoE heal and a high potency AoE OGCD damage spell created a conflict: you wanted to burn Assize as soon as possible for the damage effect, but you also wanted to sit on Assize until you could get good value out of its AoE heal. Shifting that damage on to other sources instead of leaving it in a state of constant, internal friction is a good move. Frankly, there's no use in getting too worked up over potential changes until the liveletter, both because we have no idea if they're true (though there's a reasonable probability they are) and because contextless action changes don't tell us anything meaningful about the state of jobs beyond them being different.
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May 18, 2019 04:42
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Overwatch Porn posted:old cleric stance was a blight and getting rid of it is the best design decision they ever made  I know it added a layer of strategy to things, but it was also a huge wall against getting new people to play healers because it added a completely unnecessary step to being a good healer while also being a good damage dealer. Edmond Dantes posted:...motherfucker lol On the other hand, congrats on Kassatsu.
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The Grimace posted:I know it added a layer of strategy to things, but it was also a huge wall against getting new people to play healers because it added a completely unnecessary step to being a good healer while also being a good damage dealer. This is kinda one of the big issues with designing a healer, especially in terms of dealing damage. Healers have a lot to focus on. They usually have their own specific mechanics, need to have at least some idea of what is coming, and have to keep an eye on the constantly shifting trouble of dumbass players who stand in the bad. The more complex a healer damage rotation is, the worse it will get if they're in a suboptimal group. (read: 80% of the time.) The current design basically allows for relatively low-effort DPSing while also allowing healers who have trouble focusing on a lot of things to do their job. If you make it more complex it'll be more fun to play (IMO) but you're going to run into the situation where you get a lot more people playing it far below optimal. Like yeah "honest healers" suck but there's a midpoint where you have 'average' people who will throw in some DPS when not healing and if you design around a rotation you risk either having them DPSing worse than they could or healing worse than they could, especailly since we're going into level 80 content which (ideally) should be complex and involved.
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The Grimace posted:I know it added a layer of strategy to things, but it was also a huge wall against getting new people to play healers because it added a completely unnecessary step to being a good healer while also being a good damage dealer. Those players were poo poo then and they're poo poo now. I will forever be salty about healer damage being nerfed in SB.
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Cleric Stance always was a thrill to use back then since I was inexperienced and usually like one second after switching to DPS mode a tankbuster would hit and it would be several seconds of "FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK". That said, I like that it's not a toggle anymore because as was already mentioned, it allows for new players to get into trying to do damage more easily as the risk is gone of accidently switching at the worst moment. I only got experience as a WHM, but it's much easier now to just try and keep up the DoTs and toss in the occasional Stone while being able to still heal if need be at a moments notice. I kinda wish the new Cleric Stance had a bigger modifier for damage though since 5% extra damage doesn't really seem all that great on a temporary buff. Also, I hope that Assize leak is fake. Currently it has multiple uses as you can use it for DPS against groups or times where you need to take out multiple targets in a boss fight or as a quick quick group heal if you need to heal people up and also can't really Medica. If they took out the damage then it would remove some of the complexity of it. Then again, I am also sad they took away the damage on Fluid Aura, it being oGCD meant you could just toss one out after an Aero/Aero2 to bridge the time before you could use another skill. (Also, almost every mob in dungeons and such being immune to Fluid Aura is the worst thing. Lemme try and time things so I push away the enemy just as it dies and slides off in it's death animation again Squeenix)
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May 18, 2019 06:23
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Hmm. I think I liked Lyse's outfit before the flowy robes in Stormblood better.
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Fuuuuuuuuuuuck! So, Square had a sale recently for Golden Week where the Complete Collection was around $30, which for AUS is around $44 but like, hey, sale! Sure I already have a Mogstation account in Aus but that shouldn't be an issue, right? Wrong. I just found out as I went to activate/upgrade today that nope. It won't work. So now it's a choice between my money and my time. Do I buy the complete collection again in Aussie Dollarydoo's with no discount and just... take the L? Or do I start over on a new account, the past few weeks in the game being worthless.
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  I regret to inform you that I have changed into a goth catgirl GF.
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How do item codes work in terms of regions? I'm very tempted to buy the yet to be released Arrangement Album but because Square Enix hates Australia I'd have to seek other channels to get it (one potentially being a Japanese importer) and it'd be a shame if the extra codes didnt work.
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Alris posted:How do item codes work in terms of regions? I'm very tempted to buy the yet to be released Arrangement Album but because Square Enix hates Australia I'd have to seek other channels to get it (one potentially being a Japanese importer) and it'd be a shame if the extra codes didnt work. IIRC item codes aren't regioned, only the codes for the game/expacks are, but someone would have to confim that
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Shoehead posted:I'm about to try Labyrinth of the Ancients for the first time. I dunno what raiding is like in this, so I hope it goes ok I did all three parts last night. I was a lot of fun, it's really striking to see 27 other players running into a cutscene with you. Also the Bone Dragon fight went so fast that I had to go look it up to see what people were talking about. Dude just melted.
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Alris posted:How do item codes work in terms of regions? I'm very tempted to buy the yet to be released Arrangement Album but because Square Enix hates Australia I'd have to seek other channels to get it (one potentially being a Japanese importer) and it'd be a shame if the extra codes didnt work. Item codes are region free. I order my soundtracks from cdJapan as their shipping to Australia is super fast and the codes work on my EU account
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Hogama posted:
If all the leaks i've seen so far are true, then both Red Mage AND Dark Knight are getting Trick Attack like debuffs (Sole Survivor is apparently being turned into one like that as well) so either these leaks are all fake or we are gonna be doing SO much damage during raid fights.
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The Shame Boy posted:If all the leaks i've seen so far are true, then both Red Mage AND Dark Knight are getting Trick Attack like debuffs (Sole Survivor is apparently being turned into one like that as well) so either these leaks are all fake or we are gonna be doing SO much damage during raid fights. Or they just don't stack, so having one of a specific class is no longer mandatory.
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Overwatch Porn posted:Fazzle
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To help you more easily find moogles.
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The Shame Boy posted:If all the leaks i've seen so far are true, then both Red Mage AND Dark Knight are getting Trick Attack like debuffs (Sole Survivor is apparently being turned into one like that as well) so either these leaks are all fake or we are gonna be doing SO much damage during raid fights. That'd seem to confirm that role actions are also getting the axe if it's true, since I can't see them giving DRK Trick Attack and letting them keep Shirk.
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Shy posted:Why do I have moogles marked on my map? There is some kind of event coming that uses them I think. Don't know why they're not just hidden until it hits though.
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Kwyndig posted:I can believe that they considered removing the damage from Assize... I can't believe they would go through with it though unless they wanted to get rid of healer DPS entirely outside of solo content. Removing the damage and lowering the heal turns it from a completely busted button to merely extremely good., which god forbid.
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Hogama posted:Today, in Bloodborne Kart Hello police, I'd like to report a murder and the culprit is YoshiP Even if this is entirely fake (probs), it should be illegal to joke about.
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Goddamn, I just read up on the loot rules for Savage content since I have been toying with the idea of trying it out. So not only is there a real possible chance it would take me longer to get some Omega gear than it takes for the expansion to come out, but also there is some really weird rules to punish you if you do them out of order or help out a buddy if you already cleared it for the week? I sorta get what they were trying to do to make this something you can't just grind in a few afternoons like I did with the Omicron gear, but isn't there really a different way to handle this that doesn't potentially cause moments of "Welp, one of you 8 has done the next one before this one, guess only one person walks out with a single ring this week" Maaan, I kinda had been looking forward to get myself some dyeable versions of that gear since it looks pretty neat, but guess it ain't really happening 
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Alphascape loot is unlocked now. It doesn't matter if someone's cleared the fight (or a later one) each week now, as long as you clear there are two chests. Also everyone gets a datalog upon clearing, and with sufficient datalogs (4-8 depending on what you want to buy) from the appropriate fight you can just trade them for omega gear or upgrade items for tomestones instead of having to get a drop. You buy O9S stuff with Alphascape Datalog v1.0, O10S stuff with Alphascape Datalogs v2.0, etc.. But on release, yeah. 1-4 people having already cleared cuts it down to 1 chest (which those 1-4 people can't roll on) and 5-8 cuts it down to no chests; though everyone gets a datalog the first time they clear a fight each week, no matter whether anyone else has cleared or not.
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