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Whoever told you currants were in any way related to grapes, had grapey flavor, or were seedless? Hell, having extremely annoying seeds is like the most characteristic thing about currants.
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Poil posted:One thing I've always wondered about this journey, what happens when you reach the destination? Do you need money to buy some land? Do they have to build a house from scratch? How do they not starve/freeze to death in winter? A big driver of people risking everything to move out west was that the US government was giving out land for free to anyone who would settle there. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donation_Land_Claim_Act quote:The act, which became law on 27 September 1850, granted 320 acres (1.3 km2) of designated areas free of charge to every unmarried white male citizen eighteen or older and 640 acres (2.6 km2) to every married couple arriving in the Oregon Territory before 1 December 1850... A provision in the law granted half the amount to those who arrived after the 1850 deadline but before 1854.[4] Claimants were required to live on the land and to cultivate it for four years to own it outright.[3] Looks like we have a deadline to make!
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steinrokkan posted:Whoever told you currants were in any way related to grapes, had grapey flavor, or were seedless? Hell, having extremely annoying seeds is like the most characteristic thing about currants. I may have confused wild currants with dried currants.
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Apparently Americans call a kind of raisins currants for some stupid reason, but real currants, wild or not, are a completely different thing, belonging to a genus that includes a whole bunch of commonly grown cultivars such as gooseberry, redcurrant, blackcurrant or white currant.
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May 16, 2019 23:04
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steinrokkan posted:Apparently Americans call a kind of raisins currants for some stupid reason,
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steinrokkan kramers into the thread to make more sweeping generalizations about Americans. What do we do?
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Sandwich Anarchist posted:steinrokkan kramers into the thread to make more sweeping generalizations about Americans. What do we do? Eat more currants, probably.
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steinrokkan posted:Apparently Americans call a kind of raisins currants for some stupid reason, but real currants, wild or not, are a completely different thing, belonging to a genus that includes a whole bunch of commonly grown cultivars such as gooseberry, redcurrant, blackcurrant or white currant. As with many stupid reasons, it's the Europeans' fault. quote:Zante currants, Corinth raisins, or Corinthian raisins, also called simply currants, are dried berries of the small, sweet, seedless grape cultivar 'Black Corinth' (Vitis vinifera).[1][2] The name comes from the Anglo-French phrase "raisins de Corinthe" (grapes of Corinth)[3] and the Ionian island of Zakynthos (Zante), which was once the major producer and exporter. It is not related to black, red or white currants, which are berries of shrubs in the genus Ribes and not usually prepared in dried form.
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Sandwich Anarchist posted:steinrokkan kramers into the thread to make more sweeping generalizations about Americans. What do we do? Alternate coffee and laudanum until we don't care any more. Speaking of CirclMastr posted:We need to buy: I endorse this + more coffee. 
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May 17, 2019 02:57
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why does the team have so few clocks???
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.png) Unfortunately, pickings are somewhat slim out here. No laudanum or grandfather clocks whatsoever. We do buy him completely out of all his bacon (70 pounds) and cheese (about 50 pounds) and another box of bullets. .png) We can definitely make up for that though! .png) Our rifle holds one round, which is reloaded by clicking on the gun icon at the bottom. The Sharpshooting skill gives us a higher chance of killing animals with one shot. .png) Our 5 shots take down a pair of buffalo. We're given far more meat than we could ever carry back, but it more than makes up for the lack of bacon at the trading post. .png) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ud3LIktfaIY I promise these videos will never, ever get better.
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May 17, 2019 05:08
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Take the ferry.
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Native American Relations The short version: they loving sucked. Much of what's now the United States was still untamed wilderness at the time of the Oregon Trail, occupied primarily by Native American tribes. White emigrants on the trail encountered Sioux, Cherokee, Apache, Shoshone, Pawnee, Cheyenne, and other tribes along their long journey to the West Coast. All of these tribes spoke different languages and had unique cultures, not all of which involved tipis and buffalo. Most emigrant contact with Indians was actually peaceful, as they provided valuable opportunities for trade. The bigger problem came from American misinterpretation of native intentions and plain racism. Some wagon trains would use them as target practice or draw guns on friendly tribes trying to trade with them. Any transgression could result in someone being killed, and the travelers and media loved reporting minor skirmishes as "massacres". More Native Americans were killed by white settlers than vice versa, but the negative depiction of the tribes led to harsh reprisals by the US government whenever an isolated band attempted to stop the travelers from encroaching on their land. This would lead into the long series of Indian Wars as the US military attempted to force the natives onto reservations, often reneging on treaties when they became inconvenient, and placing them under American law without granting them rights (such as arresting and executing them for crimes). A number of acts collectively referred to as the Indian Appropriations Act were signed in 1851 to establish reservations in Oklahoma as a way of getting rid of Native Americans who were occupying land that white settlers could take. On March 3, 1871, all Native American nations lost their recognition as sovereign bodies that could sign treaties and be negotiated with. Either you assimilated or you were out. As far as travelers on the Oregon Trail need to be concerned, there's not much to fear. Most Indians accept the emigrants as peaceful travelers who mean no harm. Trade gives them access to valuable goods and technology like whiskey, rifles, and horses. But there's always the possibility that you'll run into someone who really doesn't want you trying to take over his backyard for yourself.
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May 17, 2019 05:20
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Ford that sumbitch. It's not living without a little risk, right?
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May 17, 2019 05:21
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Take the ferry; don't lose the bacon we just bought.
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So what's with the thread's obsession with grandfather clocks? Is it an in-joke from some previous LP?
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Commander Keene posted:Take the ferry.
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Commander Keene posted:So what's with the thread's obsession with grandfather clocks? Is it an in-joke from some previous LP? I think a mechanic also exists that makes the wagon more likely to tip during river and hill crossings if big useless furniture like the clocks are in there.
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Commander Keene posted:So what's with the thread's obsession with grandfather clocks? Is it an in-joke from some previous LP? I think so, but I'm not sure. Besides that, they're completely useless, amazingly expensive and probably actively detrimental to take along with you, so naturally goons want to amass as many as possible. Edit: Oh, apparently it's a long running joke about Oregon trail in general that the best way to allocate your starting funds is buying 12 grandfather clocks and a hat and literally nothing else.
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May 17, 2019 06:57
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Take the Ferry. Four dollars to avoid losing some of the items we just bought is a wise investment.
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Dash Rendar posted:why does the team have so few clocks??? A previous group of travellers really cornered the market and bought up the entire supply. Commander Keene posted:So what's with the thread's obsession with grandfather clocks? Is it an in-joke from some previous LP? https://lparchive.org/Oregon-Trail-(by-Chewbot)/
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Amazing LP, I recommend everybody read that if you haven't. I think it was also one of the first LP threads I followed back when I first found the subforum. ...drat, it's over a decade ago, wow.
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Chewbot’s LP is basically what started the narrative LP format.
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Take the ferry.
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Oops, Chewbot's LP isn't the one with the grandfather clocks, he was playing a version that didn't have specific items like furniture. My bad. Pretty sure the mountain of clocks and lard was https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2568680 (archives required)
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Black Robe posted:Oops, Chewbot's LP isn't the one with the grandfather clocks, he was playing a version that didn't have specific items like furniture. My bad. The clocks came from Taxman's LP in 2009. Unfortunately I think he used Waffle Images as a host because virtually every image is dead now.
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So many great things were lost when waffleimages went kaput. Ferrys? Those are for quitters!  Ford that like our foreLPers would have wanted.
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Gonna be real awkward when Cap'n Freedman has to turn away at the Oregon border.
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In one of those old lps I had a character named after my username then who was the max age. He got bit by a rattlesnake and the vote result was to have him vigorously exercise. He survived and made it all the way to their destination. Ford the river
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.png) Almost immediately after crossing the river, we reach Fort Laramie in what's now Torrington, WY. The Mormon Trail from Nauvoo meets the Oregon Trail here. Most of the fort is still standing and now serves as a museum. .png)  Register Cliff is a soft, chalky limestone wall over 100 feet above the river. Hundreds of emigrants along the Oregon Trail carved their names, dates, etc. into the rock. .png) Next is the Ayers Natural Bridge, currently located in Converse County, WY. .png) We run into the North Platte River here. We're closing on the halfway point!
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Three bucks for a short, shallow river? Nah, that is a rip-off, Ford it.
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What good will money be when we're off the trail? Take the ferry.
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Vavrek posted:What good will money be when we're off the trail? Take the ferry. 
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I'm gonna keep voting for fording until we've all drowned in six inches of water.
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Vavrek posted:What good will money be when we're off the trail? Take the ferry. Three bucks now versus however much replacement bacon and canteens and such at some trading post? No question, Ferry.
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That bridge looks so good, it's like our ferry godmother.
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Let’s not overthink it. Take the ferry.
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Please ferry our precious bacon and cheese across. And maybe the rest of the wagon too.
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.png) Turns out the ferry is run by Mormons! In 1847 Brigham Young's group painstakingly built a ferry to cross the North Platte River, only to find over a hundred wagons waiting to cross behind them. It turned out to be perfectly practical to charge a toll for the wagons behind them to use the ferry to cross. During the initial California Gold Rush, despite building a bigger ferry that could transport 50 to 75 wagons a day, queues lasted as long as two or three days. The trading post here is a few years anachronistic, though. .png) .png) We continue passing by landmarks. Willow Springs in what's now Wyoming was a very popular camping site, as it was some of the first fresh water emigrants would find after crossing the river. Much of this area is fairly dusty and has alkali water that can't be drank. .png) .png) We find an abandoned wagon along the way. Treasures are...bountiful? .png) Even 818 miles away, we can't escape Independence. Much like Register Cliff there are many emigrant names and dates carved on it, but many of them look to have been done in the same professional hand. It's been suggested that stonecutters set up a business charging a fee to carve names into the rock for passing emigrants. .png) We don't actually pass through the Devil's Gate, just see it from a distance. .png) Fortunately our 6-month supply package included one spare of every part, allowing us to quickly replace the wheel and move on. .png) One more rock formation. .png) And now we hit our first route selection that isn't just asking if we want to turn around. As the name suggests, the Three Crossings route will force us into a set of narrow hills where we have no choice but to cross the river three times in succession. The Deep Sands route skips this but forces our oxen to travel several miles through deep, exhausting sand. Which way do we go?
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