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I would say frontline has a huge variety from my experience. Rapiers, short spears, shields, longbows, crossbows, mauls, spears, halberds, the different two hand swords, and engineer builds w/ toolboxes are all very commonly used.
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Glenn Quebec posted:Honestly 4 or 5 players who are even just decent with shield and shortspear can conquer frontlines vs. executioner swinging idiots If you have four or five decent players you have already won frontline it doesn’t matter what they’re doing.
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May 22, 2019 17:21
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Comrayn posted:If you have four or five decent players you have already won frontline it doesn’t matter what they’re doing. Lmao really hard to argue with this.
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May 22, 2019 17:24
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Parachute posted:what are your good rear end peasant loadouts? last night i just went with the 2h scythe and rock/frying pan + a random perks i can't remember r/n and ended up braining more people with the frying pan than i expected in frontline Against other peasants scythe is OP but against armour you probably want sledgehammer or pickaxe
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May 22, 2019 17:44
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Comrayn posted:If you have four or five decent players you have already won frontline it doesn’t matter what they’re doing.
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May 22, 2019 18:09
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I wanna get a crew together and try having a spearwall with shortspear/shields in the front rank and regular Spears in the back. On a lot of maps you could cover entire lanes pretty effectively this way I think?
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May 22, 2019 18:28
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It'd work fine until someone realizes what you're doing and dumps firepots on you all. So most of the rounds.
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May 22, 2019 18:34
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kidkissinger posted:I wanna get a crew together and try having a spearwall with shortspear/shields in the front rank and regular Spears in the back. On a lot of maps you could cover entire lanes pretty effectively this way I think? Until a firebombs or catapult sure. But if you could get everyone to hold at spawn until the unit is together that would be cool. But the game doesn't have the infrastructure to join in as a team.
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May 22, 2019 18:34
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Rynoto posted:It'd work fine until someone realizes what you're doing and dumps firepots on you all. So most of the rounds. i've been taking fireproof on pretty much all of my builds since firepot spam is so common right now.
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May 22, 2019 18:38
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I'm pretty sure the game times respawns to batch people together, which is why you're always popping back into spawn with multiple teammates at once and enemy reinforcements almost always come in groups. That's not really a complete solution though. That said the shield portion of the shield wall seems almost pointless in this game the way parrying works. The enemy team needs to be even more coordinated than you do to mount a targeted melee + ranged offensive against which having a wall of continual blockers is useful.
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May 22, 2019 18:42
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Glenn Quebec posted:Until a firebombs or catapult sure. But if you could get everyone to hold at spawn until the unit is together that would be cool. But the game doesn't have the infrastructure to join in as a team. It sucks. Its pretty hard to get 8-10 people on the same team on Frontline
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May 22, 2019 18:42
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Ristolaz posted:It sucks. Its pretty hard to get 8-10 people on the same team on Frontline It's really dumb and one of the things it needs help in regards to. Also clan support. There should be clan specific stuff you can unlock together not dissimilar to Div 2.
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May 22, 2019 18:48
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So apparently numpad 1 is also a suicide key in addition to End.
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May 22, 2019 18:49
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yesterday for some reason i couldn't get the little identifier icons that appear over your teammates to show up in game. i even rebound the key (H) to something else and restarted the game but it still wasn't working at all so I had to switch back to the colored uniforms until it gets fixed. anybody else having this issue?
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May 22, 2019 18:50
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Gobblecoque posted:So apparently numpad 1 is also a suicide key in addition to End. If numberlock isn't on, the numpad 1 is an End key.
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When you stop caring about scores, the game becomes 10 times more fun. It's hilarious wading in a huge 8v8 fight with a shield and short spear and just concentrate on getting in the way of as many enemy attacks as possible and poking feet. It seems to throw people off so bad. Then when they start focusing and collapsing their own line to kill you, it causes a chain reaction that wins the engagement for your team. Also looking for teammates who are outnumbered and just shoving a shield in their enemies's faces to gain some time. Gives your friend a breather and allows more friendlies to potentially back you up. A lot of these huge 15vs15 melees are one person short of collapsing one way or the other so playing like this can be a huge boost to your team.
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Cyberdud posted:When you stop caring about scores, the game becomes 10 times more fun. As much as I love the waraxe, most people have gotten good enough at parrying that I can't take apart while groups anymore and I am losing duels sometimes. Any suggestions? Feints don't seem reliable because half the time people just swing wildly and don't even try to block. What do you do with a greataxe if half the players are good at parrying and the other half swing wildly whatever it is you do? The one thing I've been having success with, which is absurd, is turning my back, hoping they swing wildly and then parrying into an accelerated swing at their side and I have been having a lot of success with it, but often they don't take the bait.
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May 22, 2019 20:20
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I recommend practicing with goons on the goon server. All weapons are viable.
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May 22, 2019 20:21
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But I like 64 man servers.
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May 22, 2019 21:50
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Is there a time goons are often playing on the goon server? Haven't gotten to play as much as I'd like lately, but when I check its been empty.
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May 22, 2019 22:13
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Sometimes you need to be able to diagnose your opponent's skill level and then act on it ASAP. There's no one size fits all tactic against everyone you'll come across. In Frontline it's harder since you have so little time before someone crashes in on your duel. Your process might go something like: 1. Test if they can parry a normal riposte 2. Test if they can parry a morph or a long drag 3. Go for a harder mixup like a chamber into feint or morph By the time you get to 3 you should be pretty confident they aren't going to randomly stuff you in the face. Sometimes you don't have time for any of this and aggressive footsies will be faster and more reliable instead.
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May 22, 2019 22:15
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eonwe posted:Is there a time goons are often playing on the goon server? Haven't gotten to play as much as I'd like lately, but when I check its been empty. Hop into the discord. Usually 4 or 5 of us are game for duels.
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Parachute posted:yesterday for some reason i couldn't get the little identifier icons that appear over your teammates to show up in game. i even rebound the key (H) to something else and restarted the game but it still wasn't working at all so I had to switch back to the colored uniforms until it gets fixed. anybody else having this issue? Yes I had a similar issue to this although it seemed to fix itself during the course of the round. It must be a bug.
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Disgusting Coward posted:Wait you guys can still play? I, and everyone I know, have been getting ridiculous packet loss since the last patch. Makes the game pretty much unplayable, and also seems to have turned it into a field day for 3/3/3 Executioner people. Just a human wave of guys walking forward, windmilling their big choppy swords, safe in the knowledge they're impossible to parry in such a herky-jerky environment. I am that horrible packet loss/latency spike player, and I've mostly resigned myself to archery, engineering and gimmicks until it gets fixed. It will get fixed, right? 
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May 23, 2019 02:16
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Remember to turn off your VPN if you use one. Every time I get ping/packet loss warnings it's because I forgot.
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May 23, 2019 02:59
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Are servers down? Neither I or my friend across town (Denver), can queue for or join games with eachother at all. Oddly we could join one single Duel server together ...
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May 23, 2019 04:24
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TheAardvark posted:Are servers down? Neither I or my friend across town (Denver), can queue for or join games with eachother at all. Official ones it seems like but I could still join things through server browser
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Speaking of performance issues, I've finally nailed down why I had common frame-drops in various maps despite playing on a pretty beefy machine: It was windowed/borderless mode all along. Unlike many other games, performance in windowed/borderless was way worse than in fullscreen, and switching over to fullscreen fixed pretty much all of it.
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I've been loving with longsword, greatsword, zweihander, and Bastard Sword (2-h mode) and I regret it. There's just no reason to bring anything but Executioner's sword in my opinion if you like a big 2-h sword. The ability to basically always kill dudes in 1-2 shots is extremely my poo poo.
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Perestroika posted:Speaking of performance issues, I've finally nailed down why I had common frame-drops in various maps despite playing on a pretty beefy machine: It was windowed/borderless mode all along. Unlike many other games, performance in windowed/borderless was way worse than in fullscreen, and switching over to fullscreen fixed pretty much all of it. Ooh. My potato gets 15-30 FPS at the moment (in borderless windowed) so I'll try this.
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jokes posted:I've been loving with longsword, greatsword, zweihander, and Bastard Sword (2-h mode) and I regret it. There's just no reason to bring anything but Executioner's sword in my opinion if you like a big 2-h sword. The ability to basically always kill dudes in 1-2 shots is extremely my poo poo. IMO the executioner sword is going to become a noob trap when the average player skill gets high enough and people stop taking any of its stabs seriously. When it becomes safe to assume that an exec sword will feint or morph any stab because the consequence of eating one is so low, then whoops half the mixup game is gone.
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May 23, 2019 13:44
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Whenever I stab with an axe or executioner's sword good players will rarely block it, but you can just combo stabs and rack up damage really quick just thunking them in the face repeatedly. The funnier option is that if they stop blocking your stabs, you can roll up and just start kicking the poo poo out of them to drain all their stamina and when they try to block in earnest you just disarm them and THEN swing on them.
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I stab with the executioner cause it MESS FOLKS UP. Mind games. Non-linear tactics.
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jokes posted:I've been loving with longsword, greatsword, zweihander, and Bastard Sword (2-h mode) and I regret it. There's just no reason to bring anything but Executioner's sword in my opinion if you like a big 2-h sword. The ability to basically always kill dudes in 1-2 shots is extremely my poo poo. The executioner's sword does have a pretty significant downside in that it can't combo. Of course, if the only thing you're looking for is number of hits to kill then the maul is unbeatable.
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Arming sword 3/3/3 + bloodlust I swear by it. You can always pick up another weapon on the battlefield. Not that you need to.
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timn posted:IMO the executioner sword is going to become a noob trap when the average player skill gets high enough and people stop taking any of its stabs seriously. When it becomes safe to assume that an exec sword will feint or morph any stab because the consequence of eating one is so low, then whoops half the mixup game is gone. you just gotta do a few stabs at the start so they think its a thing you do
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May 23, 2019 15:39
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A couple of stabs at the start means it is a thing that you're doing and being predictable with. All else equal you're still at a disadvantage because either you aren't stabbing and being more predictable or you are stabbing and getting poorer returns on average compared to a more well rounded weapon.
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Glenn Quebec posted:Arming sword 3/3/3 + bloodlust I swear by it. You can always pick up another weapon on the battlefield. Not that you need to. I also swear by this build. Also my weird 3/1/1 bloodlust, second wind, rapier build. Second wind helps make up for the bad stamina game of that sword
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timn posted:IMO the executioner sword is going to become a noob trap when the average player skill gets high enough and people stop taking any of its stabs seriously. When it becomes safe to assume that an exec sword will feint or morph any stab because the consequence of eating one is so low, then whoops half the mixup game is gone. They'll just move to third person and swing while moving in figures of eight, just because it's so ridiculously effective.
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