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Casey Finnigan posted:You call that charisma? He is very charming to very stupid racist people America has about 35%-40% of those, so yikes
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Rigel posted:New poll out in Florida, among registered voters. Florida has been 50/50 for twenty years. I don't see how this is a surprise?
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May 23, 2019 02:12
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Trump is very good at filling in a void of what people think they want, specifically racists and boomers. I don't know if that's charisma so much as it is...well, I'm really not sure what I would call it. In the immediate aftermath of the election some random rear end author of like vampire erotica wrote a loving fantastic writeup of trump and why he was successful. It basically boiled down to he has some innate ability to make his followers think attacks on him are directed at them at large. So when people made fun of his hideous suits, or his ridiculous hair, or his weird way of talking etc his supporters took it to heart because really THEY were being made fun of. That may be charisma. On the left we think of a person like Obama who can pull all the various discordant branches of "the left" together as charismatic. Or someone like bernie, to a lesser extent. On the right, charisma might just be that person who can channel rage. Or he's the person that can funnel generalized disdain or whatever into the individual.
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Charlz Guybon posted:Florida has been 50/50 for twenty years. I don't see how this is a surprise? Florida has quite a load of racists and oldy oldsons, not to mention Florida Man Not a surprise at all. Seriously that's the first result I got just from googling "Florida Man" 
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May 23, 2019 02:16
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KickerOfMice posted:Florida has quite a load of racists and oldy oldsons, not to mention Florida Man Not a surprise at all. Florida Man is a cruel classist joke
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May 23, 2019 02:17
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Gatts posted:AOC put the kibosh on Amazon in NY didn't she? What was the fallout for her on that? AOC had nothing to do with Amazon pulling out of NYC. She tweeted that she was pleased by the decision and conservatives immediately fell over themselves to blame her for "stealing jobs from New Yorkers". https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1096117499492478977
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kidkissinger posted:Florida Man is a cruel classist joke  It's a joke about the headlines and the language they use, but interpret that anyhow you see fit.
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May 23, 2019 02:21
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Acebuckeye13 posted:On the Democratic side of things, however, you have a much, much wider range of interests that are represented. Depending on the district, a Democratic politician may be relying on securing the vote of, for instance, both suburban mothers who fiercely want gun control and blue-collar workers who just as fiercely don't, so that no matter which side of the issue the Democratic politician comes down on, someone is going to end up disappointed and frustrated that their interests aren't being addressed. And while sometimes a lack of enthusiasm from one section of the base can be made up by exciting another section of the base, this isn't always feasible, especially across different districts with different interests and populations—particularly given the lack of a sympathetic, cooperative, and unifying messaging system akin to Fox or other far-right media outlets. The problem with this is, there are things that the vast majority of the Democratic base is calling for, across all demographic lines, and yet the Democratic leadership is not pushing for those things, or allowing progressive representatives to push for them.
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May 23, 2019 02:24
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KickerOfMice posted:
You could replace most instances of "Florida Man" with "Person with drug abuse issues" tho
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KickerOfMice posted:
https://soundcloud.com/citationsneeded/episode-75-florida-man Maybe get some context on what is really behind the "Florida Man" meme.
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Crain posted:https://soundcloud.com/citationsneeded/episode-75-florida-man Will do. Didn't realize there was something behind it. Forgive. KickerOfMice fucked around with this message at 02:33 on May 23, 2019 |
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"Confederate Statue At Kentucky Cemetery Defaced With Paint" "The statue features a Confederate soldier standing above a portrait of Gen. Robert E. Lee. It’s surrounded by 67 Confederate soldier grave markers. A photo of the vandalism shows Lee’s face covered in the paint, which then drips across the statue’s embossed inscriptions." https://lex18.com/news/2019/05/21/confederate-statue-at-kentucky-cemetery-defaced-with-paint/
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"'I get to be myself': Utah County commissioner publicly comes out as gay at 40 " https://www.heraldextra.com/news/lo...1bc167f692.html Utah.
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Yes, I'm sure this was the only "unreported" death. ...or maybe there are mass graves of immigrants out there: https://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-texas-immigrant-graves-20140621-story.html Their main highway has a border patrol checkpoint just north of the town. That article is from 2014 but I can only imagine poo poo has gotten worse.
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Arcsquad12 posted:Because Beer Clubs and Beer Halls have never been the hosts of violent political gangs before. in my fanfic where I'm god emperor , I ask them what their favorite beer is and if it is the wrong answer they get dealt with. (any and all answers are wrong because gently caress nazis)
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"Republican Tennessee House Speaker To Resign After Lewd And Sexist Texts" "Opposition to his leadership snowballed after texts were leaked to the media in which Casada and his now-former chief of staff, Cade Cothren, traded lewd remarks. Sent in the summer of 2016, the messages show Casada egging on the aide as he bragged about a sexual encounter in a restaurant bathroom, as one example." https://www.npr.org/2019/05/21/725389031/tenn-republican-to-resign-as-house-speaker-after-lewd-and-sexist-texts
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"'There are consequences for every decision we make as legislators, and for every vote we cast there are ramifications,' Figures said in a release. 'However, some of these effects are unintended and I truly believe this has been the case for SB314. I do not believe my Republican colleagues had any idea what the consequences for passing this bill would be.'" .... "''You are playing God, in my opinion, because you’ve already decided what needs to be done,' Figures said to Republican senators last Tuesday. 'You all don’t rule the world. I mean, you may think you do, but you don’t.'” "Alabama senator files bill to repeal abortion ban" https://www.al.com/politics/2019/05/alabama-senator-files-bill-to-repeal-abortion-ban.html
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May 23, 2019 02:48
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https://twitter.com/samstein/status/1131366092977451008 "If Trump gets acquitted, it might legitimize this type of conduct, so we should... do absolutely nothing"
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DaveWoo posted:https://twitter.com/samstein/status/1131366092977451008 ...yyyyyeah, it really seems to me like they aren't considering what type of message doing nothing sends. Or are purposefully ignoring that line of thinking.
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"Neus Català, Dogged Anti-Fascist and Camp Survivor, Dies at 103" ""It was just one episode in a lifetime of anti-fascist resistance that Ms. Català, who died on April 13 at 103, would demonstrate. She then fought with the French Resistance against the Nazis but was captured by the Germans and deported to the Ravensbrück women’s concentration camp in northern Germany. From Ravensbrück, Ms. Català was transferred to the Flossenbürg camp, where she was part of a forced labor group that quarried granite and sabotaged bullets and bombs while working in a munitions factory. Long after the war was over, she tracked down other survivors of Ravensbrück, gathered their remembrances and published them in the book 'Resistance and Deportation: 50 Testimonies of Spanish Women' (1984). The European press reported that at her death she had been the last living Spanish survivor of Ravensbrück. 'Neus Català dedicated her whole life to explaining the horror of what must never happen again,' Quim Torra, the president of Catalonia in Spain, said after her death. He said she had been 'a clear voice for freedom and against barbarity.'" https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/21/obituaries/neus-catala-dead.html
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May 23, 2019 03:01
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DaveWoo posted:https://twitter.com/samstein/status/1131366092977451008 Pelosi is absolute garbage. Can't wait for the Pelosi defenders to pop in and tell us this is all part of her Nth dimensional chess strategy and not what she actually thinks.
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May 23, 2019 03:01
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I think they're just really THAT worried about the "moderate" dems who they think would be endangered by an impeachment vote. Either way it's absolutely dereliction of duty and they all deserve to be voted out but I preach to the choir.
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"Low-Income College Students Are Being Taxed Like Trust-Fund Babies" "WASHINGTON — A little-noticed provision in President Trump’s sprawling new tax law is treating middle- and low-income college students as if they are trust-fund babies, taxing sizable financial aid packages at a rate first established 33 years ago to prevent wealthy parents from funneling money to their children to lower their tax burdens." https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/17/us/politics/college-scholarships-tax-increases.html
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DaveWoo posted:https://twitter.com/samstein/status/1131366092977451008 1 is nonsense. Not impeaching is what will legitimize the conduct.
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May 23, 2019 03:10
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FizFashizzle posted:Trump is very good at filling in a void of what people think they want, specifically racists and boomers. 
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May 23, 2019 03:11
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FizFashizzle posted:I think they're just really THAT worried about the "moderate" dems who they think would be endangered by an impeachment vote. Nah, they're just cowards - they figure why bother taking the risk of a tough impeachment fight when they can just stall for another year and a half, put the responsibility onto the voters instead, and hope to pick up a few extra House seats by using Trump as a boogeyman to draw more voters to the polling stations.
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Lycus posted:1 is nonsense. Not impeaching is what will legitimize the conduct. It's both, because as long as Republican senators are derelict in their duty, the president IS above the law. Main Paineframe posted:Nah, they're just cowards - they figure why bother taking the risk of a tough impeachment fight when they can just stall for another year and a half, put the responsibility onto the voters instead, and hope to pick up a few extra House seats by using Trump as a boogeyman to draw more voters to the polling stations.
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May 23, 2019 03:23
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Impeach the motherfucker.
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"'Powder keg' in Dayton: Ohio city braces for KKK rally" https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/444984-powder-keg-in-dayton-ohio-city-braces-for-kkk-rally "Dayton, Klan group reach agreement over guns, masks" "The city of Dayton and the Ku Klux Klan-affiliated group it took to court agreed to a consent decree that will allow the Honorable Sacred Knights to mask their faces and carry certain firearms. The same deal prevents them from bringing assault rifles, bats and shields to Courthouse Square on May 25." https://www.daytondailynews.com/news/crime--law/dayton-klan-group-reach-agreement-over-guns-masks/FXfI36HwAXFfGDAf7CBF8N/ "KKK, New Black Panthers and Antifa Call Rival Rallies in Dayton, Ohio: ‘Potential Danger Will Be High’ https://www.newsweek.com/kkk-new-black-panthers-and-antifa-call-rival-rallies-dayton-ohio-potential-1432479 "Dayton, Ohio, sued a Ku Klux Klan group that wanted to have a rally. Now the rally's going ahead with a court's OK." https://www.chicagotribune.com/nation-world/ct-dayton-ohio-ku-klux-klan-rally-20190514-story.html If they are 20, we must be 2,000,000.
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A Dem party that won't even sack up and impeach possibly the worst president in all of history is a party that I cannot trust to represent me and my interests, or vote in a way that keeps me from being tied behind a truck and dragged. Why would they get my vote?
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theflyingorc posted:Trump will be that boogeyman regardless Yes, but by refusing to act against him, whether it works or not, it's clear signalling that they aren't particularly concerned about the crimes he's committing or the people he's hurting. That's going to severely undermine the boogeyman motivation. Like, "come out in 2020 to vote against Trump! Vote to take Trump down!" Well, that's exactly the line that was used about the 2018 midterms, and the House majority that was granted apparently won't even make any genuine effort to live up to those promises. I have no doubt that the next Democratic president will give Trump a pass, and at the very least some of his awful changes to the country will get to stand as the new status quo that will be magically impossible to change all of a sudden, except for the worse.
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Casey Finnigan posted:Yes, but by refusing to act against him, whether it works or not, it's clear signalling that they aren't particularly concerned about the crimes he's committing or the people he's hurting. That's going to severely undermine the boogeyman motivation. The critical thing is that we do the equivalent of a formal censuring
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theflyingorc posted:The critical thing is that we do the equivalent of a formal censuring Yeah, literally do the thing in the US constitution, that was created for this exact purpose. If you can't even do that, you're refusing to live up to your constitutional duty. You think I'm gonna believe the guy who says he's going to fight against Trump if he won't even ~formally censure~ him?
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FBS posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1131386418410999808  "I DID NOT THROW A FIT! NOW DO WHAT I SAAAAAYYY!!!" Joffrey Baratheon was more even tempered
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Casey Finnigan posted:Yeah, literally do the thing in the US constitution, that was created for this exact purpose. If you can't even do that, you're refusing to live up to your constitutional duty. Love how the Constitution becomes a sacred document when we want it to
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theflyingorc posted:Love how the Constitution becomes a sacred document when we want it to ...? Are you literally arguing that we should just ignore the Constitution, in order to...? Like, what's your end goal? Besides doing nothing? e: Like, seriously, typically if people have a problem with a part of the Constitution they explain what their problem is and what should be done about it, they're not like, "the Constitution doesn't matter" Casey Finnigan fucked around with this message at 03:46 on May 23, 2019 |
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DaveWoo posted:https://twitter.com/samstein/status/1131366092977451008 remember earlier today, when people were very sure this was all just kabuki lol
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FBS posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1131386418410999808 i kinda hope he gets mad and does dumb bad things.
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I didn't keep a spreadsheet so maybe it's different people but I have a real sense that some of the exact posters that were on 'impeachment is a pointless distraction for bad dems to avoid talking about their failings, shut up about impeachment" train for months in this thread have magically snapped to "actually symbolic impeachment is a requirement and not doing it is personal betrayal" the exact second they got the sense they were on the same side as bad lady nancy. Any odds on if nancy changes and goes with impeachment if those people will keep being on that side or if it will turn into 'oh, wow, instead of representing my interests dems are doing some pointless symbolic decorum thing they know is doomed to express they are very concerned, heh"
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