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scholar's healing will be fine, it'll just need to do (slightly) more casts than before. the big thing is almost everything unique to it was gutted, it has mechanical problems introduced that are exactly the same as ones introduced at Stormblood launch, and the dps rotation (the thing you do 70% of the time on a healer) is extremely gutted with no alternative unless you like the new dumbed down ast card draws.
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In less doom and gloom, I listened to DrakGamestein's yoship interview and, uh  is that a  or a  , i have no idea, but either way i'm terrifiedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeWSAoZNKJ8&t=892s
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for all the new buttons whm got, they're still all on gcd direct heals. this is the one thing whm had the most of it already, and i have no idea why they got more when it weirdly mirrors the same problems and complaints people had with them the last expansion. hmmm..
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SE also never addresses jobs being unable to compete in raids, after all warrior is inferior to paladin in every way and has no mitigation.Minrad posted:scholar's healing will be fine, it'll just need to do (slightly) more casts than before. the big thing is almost everything unique to it was gutted, it has mechanical problems introduced that are exactly the same as ones introduced at Stormblood launch, and the dps rotation (the thing you do 70% of the time on a healer) is extremely gutted with no alternative unless you like the new dumbed down ast card draws. Yeah I get this, looking at how many abilities it lost if I was a scholar main I could totally see being pissed about all that being gutted.
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May 29, 2019 23:00
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This is my favorite part of the expansion cycle
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Sorry to interrupt whatever it is that is going on here but does anybody have any advice for this admittedly lame question? don't want to give up on this game!Sleng Teng posted:Hey so this expansion seems likely to be pretty good for what I'm interested in (everything but healing) so I want to come back. However I will be attempting to play this on the PS4 as my gaming pc has finally died and I don't really want to replace it right now.
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ImpAtom posted:Cool. Looking forward to you posting in this thread at launch. Mate, I didn't preorder Shadowbringers for this exact reason. I had a real bad feeling that they were going to gut jobs I cared about, and what do you know, they're going completely above and beyond what I expected even at my most pessimistic. Apparently I have a clairvoyant space brain or something when it comes to middling game designers falling apart when they're actually under deadline and financial pressure! ImpAtom posted:Yes. I think you are being massively hyperbolic. SCH will not have trouble healing. At Absolutely worst they will have to devote more time to GCD healing or use Dissipation more. Yes. I can read numbers, and either they're lying about healing checks being harder (in which case why gut healer damage and buff options?) or SCH is going to have huge trouble keeping up. It's barely on par with the other healers for burst output, and dramatically below them for sustained healing, and no Energy Drain could seriously gently caress up its MP sustainability though that's hard to tell with MP being reworked all around. Vitamean posted:can I have your account It's a Balmung account with everything (except FSH but lol) at 70, O12S down, very solid if unexceptional parses, so I'm not exactly inclined to give it away for free, sorry. I'm still barely holding onto hope that they'll either reverse course before launch or in 5.01 or something, but I really don't expect anything other than minor number tweaks that don't really fix much other than making content theoretically-possible for SCH. If not, whatever, I'll take some ERPer or wannabe raider's money and run I guess.
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Minrad posted:they are getting less, objectively, by about 25%, and their non-oGCD fairy pet abilities that could be clipped with regular casts are now oGCD locked. they have all the skills they currently have plus new and stronger fairy abilities and a regen on sacred soil
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Solo Wing Pixy posted:It's a Balmung account with everything (except FSH but lol) at 70, O12S down, very solid if unexceptional parses, so I'm not exactly inclined to give it away for free, sorry. I'm still barely holding onto hope that they'll either reverse course before launch or in 5.01 or something, but I really don't expect anything other than minor number tweaks that don't really fix much other than making content theoretically-possible for SCH. If not, whatever, I'll take the money and run I guess. they're not gonna change course and I won't give you money for it, but when you decide to come back I'll give the account back to you
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Some Goblin Jig level of bait being used in this thread. Nice catch.
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Sleng Teng posted:Sorry to interrupt whatever it is that is going on here but does anybody have any advice for this admittedly lame question? don't want to give up on this game! I ran every dungeon in order when I switched to SCH and PS4 play. Worked wonders. Helped with muscle memory and prioritizing my cross bars.
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I have distinct memories of this same cycle happening the past two expansions and yet somehow the only job that was in the dumpster was MCH.
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YoshiOfYellow posted:I have distinct memories of this same cycle happening the past two expansions and yet somehow the only job that was in the dumpster was MCH. past two expansions? hell, this is typical for any internet hype machine ever
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Sleng Teng posted:Sorry to interrupt whatever it is that is going on here but does anybody have any advice for this admittedly lame question? don't want to give up on this game! I've played a little on controllers and my wife currently plays with one. I started by just looking up a popular hot bar layout for the class and copying it. After that it was just taking the time to change your muscle memory. I spent a few runs in squadron dungeons before jumping back into regular dungeons. The most I can really say is just slowly mess with your settings and layout. if you find yourself wondering "can I do this thing differently on a controller?" Theres probably a setting for it somewhere. Overall the controller plays pretty well
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Minrad posted:for all the new buttons whm got, they're still all on gcd direct heals. this is the one thing whm had the most of it already, and i have no idea why they got more when it weirdly mirrors the same problems and complaints people had with them the last expansion. hmmm.. the Two new whm gcd heals they got are repalcements for cure and medica that work towards a skill that gives a rebate on the potency you lost by using those gcds, it's cool
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YoshiOfYellow posted:I have distinct memories of this same cycle happening the past two expansions and yet somehow the only job that was in the dumpster was MCH. 4.0 SCH felt awful to play outside of a very select slice of content in the game (specifically 8-mans), it's not like we don't have precedent here.
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Sleng Teng posted:Sorry to interrupt whatever it is that is going on here but does anybody have any advice for this admittedly lame question? don't want to give up on this game! If it's just a muscle memory / kbm preference, you can plug a keyboard and mouse into the PS4. Otherwise I think you have the right idea. Put your most used abilities on the easier cross bar. Put others where you think they should go, and sync down and try to learn them. If you've got years of kbm control ingrained into you, you're going to need to just hammer it out to break your habit and relearn the control scheme.
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imagine thinking that a balmung account is worth anything now that you can just make a character on one of the six dead servers that share a cluster with it and just warp over
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Solo Wing Pixy posted:Mate, I didn't preorder Shadowbringers for this exact reason. I had a real bad feeling that they were going to gut jobs I cared about, and what do you know, they're going completely above and beyond what I expected even at my most pessimistic. Apparently I have a clairvoyant space brain or something when it comes to middling game designers falling apart when they're actually under deadline and financial pressure! yeah this is the poo poo i love
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Sleng Teng posted:Sorry to interrupt whatever it is that is going on here but does anybody have any advice for this admittedly lame question? don't want to give up on this game! If I’m playing a caster, I put my instant abilities on the face buttons and cast abilities on the dpad. This aligns my thumbs so that I don’t move during cast abilities. It takes a few hours to build muscle memory for controller so just pick up a new class (so you have fewer buttons) and play for a session or two. After that controller should feel great.
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Kaubocks posted:imagine thinking that a balmung account is worth anything now that you can just make a character on one of the six dead servers that share a cluster with it and just warp over But what if that account has a house on balmung? *taps forehead*
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Mordiceius posted:Why are you playing with another healer that isn't actively participating? whoa WHOA hey now buddy, don't start saying crazy poo poo. either you play the meta or you get the gently caress outta here
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Leal posted:But what if that account has a house on balmung? even more of a reason to give the account to me, vitamin, so that i can caretake all the work put into the house
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YoshiOfYellow posted:I have distinct memories of this same cycle happening the past two expansions and yet somehow the only job that was in the dumpster was MCH. 4.0 SCH was extremely garbage and 4.05 was major changes to a ton of classes, followed by a major WAR rework in 4.1. Should I link patch notes or can you find them yourself?
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ImpAtom posted:Multiple people have just argued Scholar will be unplayable weak. Well, you can continue to laugh at them I guess?  It's extremely unlikely that SCH won't have the healing throughput or mitigation to deal with anything the game has to throw at players, and even if they did, small potency balance tweaks would fix it.Personally, I am just down on how oversimplified SCH's offensive toolkit has become. If I play healer role again this expansion, I'll probably pick up WHM instead as it just strictly has more offensive tools than SCH has. Even comparing WHM's Holy, which still has the Stun component attached to it, is more interesting of a tool than SCH's Art of War which is just.... 
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Minrad posted:they are getting less, objectively, by about 25% Subjectively, you'll now be able to cast more lustrates than before in *most* situations, because you'll be able to sit on your aetherflow instead of blowing through it quickly with energy drain every time cooldown nears 20s for fear of losing out stacks on the cooldown. Since the only thing aetherflow does now is heal, you can be basically sitting on 6 and lose 10% mp if you don't hit it for the full 60 seconds, which is really not that bad, considering lucid dreaming still exists and has half the cooldown.
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i really just want a character on aether at cap that I can use to play with friends this isn't hard
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Remember, you can permanently delete your account in the Mog Station at any time.
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Vitamean posted:i really just want a character on aether at cap that I can use to play with friends this isn't hard balmung isn't on aether
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Leal posted:But what if that account has a house on balmung? 
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Solo Wing Pixy posted:Yes. I can read numbers, and either they're lying about healing checks being harder (in which case why gut healer damage and buff options?) or SCH is going to have huge trouble keeping up. It's barely on par with the other healers for burst output, and dramatically below them for sustained healing, and no Energy Drain could seriously gently caress up its MP sustainability though that's hard to tell with MP being reworked all around. You can read test numbers from a media demo which is explicitly not finished after again they said the potency numbers are changing behind the scenes and not to judge them equally. Like loving seriously, what do you think is more likely: S-E somehow missed that Scholars can't clear content or that WHM (the beginner/easy to play healer class) is overtuned for healing because not everyone plays healers to the very best of their ability? Happy Blue Cow posted:Well, you can continue to laugh at them I guess? That's absolutely reasonable! I'm not trying to say "don't complain" just... the gloom and doom "everything is ruined I'm quitting the game, Scholars may as well be Blue Mages" stuff is silly overwrought. Karasu Tengu posted:4.0 SCH was extremely garbage and 4.05 was major changes to a ton of classes, followed by a major WAR rework in 4.1. Should I link patch notes or can you find them yourself? 4.0 SCH could easily clear all content in the game before 4.05 and the changes only increased their speed and capability. Like this is a big thing about FFXIV: Classes are usually all perfectly viable. At worst they're not *as* good as other classes but if you enjoy playing them more you can still do just fine. SCH may not be Top Tier Meta or whatever but if you like Scholar and are good at playing it you will be able to finish content. ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 23:18 on May 29, 2019 |
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ImpAtom posted:Multiple people have just argued Scholar will be unplayable weak. Much like your posts.
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Overwatch Porn posted:balmung isn't on aether oh gently caress
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I am just livid that I only have one dot instead of two I am no filthy star mage I am an academic sir
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So does it make it funny that this is the expansion alphanaud chose to change to scholar? Because that's confirmed now.
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Mordiceius posted:Why are you playing with another healer that isn't actively participating? I like how everyone was "Why did you chose a DRK?" and the dude was like "I like playing DRK"
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Zoig posted:So does it make it funny that this is the expansion alphanaud chose to change to scholar? Because that's confirmed now. Does he have a fairy or some kind of winged Carbuncle?
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