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FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Midnight Voyager posted:

Okay, problems aside, "a minor who made it without a parent." She can probably drive, she's not twelve! It's low for a full license depending on state, but it's not out of "knows how to drive" range.
I don't think transportation viability was the issue.

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Midnight Voyager
Jul 2, 2008

Lipstick Apathy

FactsAreUseless posted:

I don't think transportation viability was the issue.

Thus "problems aside." :V I thought it was odd to mention.

But I read it again and it says they live five hours away, and you know what, that is a bit too young for a five hour drive, never mind.

Time for a :yikes: Spoiled for possible assault.

Fiancée [27/F] went “too far” at bachelorette party. I [28/M] am ready to call it off. People are telling me not to due to “extenuating circumstances”.

quote:

I’ve been with my fiancée for going on 4 years. We got engaged a little over a year ago and were going to put a rush on the wedding because her mother was sick. Her mom had smoked for a long time, quit, picked it back up, and then developed cancer. To look at her mom, you’d never suspect she was a smoker, but had picked up the habit. Her mother grew too ill for a wedding so the idea of putting one together quickly faded and instead a couple of months ago, she passed. My fiancée was devastated to lose her mom at such a young age. I offered to postpone the wedding but she really wanted to move forward with it and took to planning.

We agreed that we weren’t too interested in bachelor/bachelorette parties and instead decided we’d do something low key. Her Maid of Honor approached me about doing something more “substantive” for fiancée as she lost her mom not too long ago. I thought it was a good idea. I arranged for dinner/drinks and fun with my groomsmen. The Best Man (my brother) and my best friend booked a steakhouse and then arranged for drinks at a nice place afterwards. They bought me a nice cigar for the lounge and we had a tremendous time.

Fiancée was texting me and then her phone died. She was out incredibly late – her friends said they packed it in around 5 AM and then slept most of the morning and hate a late lunch rather than brunch. When she got home she was still hungover and basically laid in bed and drank Gatorade instead of doing anything. The Saturday and Sunday were pretty much a write-off. She was that hungover. I asked her about it and she kept saying she pretty much has no recollection after a certain point. Her friends said something similar, that she was so obliterated after like 3 AM that they carried her to a friend’s brother’s bar where they hung out while my fiancée sipped booze while splayed in a chair.

Things were fine until last night when she asked me to find something on her phone. I noticed a message come through saying my name, so yes, I snooped. It said “I also hope [my real name] doesn’t find out.” I scroll up and it’s a nightmare. This afternoon, my fiancée texts her Maid of Honor saying that she hasn’t been that drunk “in a long time” and her friend follows up with “I know” and a series of photos – my wife and her friends in a room – most of the women are topless, including my fiancée, and there’s a stripper. Fiancée responds “oh god. Can we not.” And another photo follows with the stripper kissing her neck while her friends are topless, holding booze and obviously acting poorly. Fiancee texts “I feel bad because [my real name] had such a tame night. He’s such a good boy. I hope he doesn’t find out.” That’s when MoH responds: “I also hope [my real name] doesn’t find out” and by this point has added “he’d leave you.” During their night out, someone must have used her phone to take photos to commemorate her little dalliance, because there must have been another half dozen photos on her phone. The worst being what looks like my topless fiancée laying on the bed with her friends around her and a naked stripper smelling his finger. I was horrified.

I didn’t know what to do and didn’t want to come out and say I snooped so I tried to get her to talk about the evening. I told her about our evening. She deflected, said she was drunk, and that she never needs to be drunk again and then says something how she’s not at all jealous of her single friends and can’t wait to get married. We’re getting married in four weeks. I couldn’t take it and told her I knew. She freaked out and at first got mad that I snooped but then realized the gravity of the situation. She began to apologize and hid behind being drunk. I didn’t accept that and she started crying. I went to another room to cool off and I guess she texted her friend because I received a flurry of texts telling me that it was a mistake and nothing happened. After a few hours of arguing, fiancée tells me that they went to someone’s house where they all got obliterated and a stripped arrived. They decided to take their tops off and have fun. The stripper did his thing and kissed my fiancée’s neck and chest and attempted to touch her genitals but she stopped him. They tipped him and he left. I didn’t handle it well and basically said that it didn’t really matter at the end of the day and that the wedding was off. She looked stunned. I threw some clothes into a bag and told her to leave. To my surprise she left. Her Maid of Honor texted me that I’m an rear end in a top hat and I replied asking how much of the money I contributed towards their night went to a stripper putting the moves on my fiancée? I haven’t heard from her since.

I took the day off work and had to turn my phone off. My fiancée has texted evert 3 or 4 minutes. Her father called/texted and then sent me a long email. I checked my phone again about 6 minutes ago and it's non-stop texts from a bunch of people. No one on my side of the family knows. My fiancée is saying she'll do anything, she wants to come home, she's sorry. Her father texted me again to please call him and her friends added me to a WhatsApp group that basically outlines the whole night, their indiscretion and is telling me that she's sorry/they're sorry that she was too drunk and that I'm an rear end in a top hat for not talking to them.


I know I eventually have to say something. I don't know what to say or to whom. I don't even know how to handle this. Not in a million years would I have EVER thought my fiancée would do something like this. She's the most stable, earnest, nice and straightforward person ever. I don't understand it. I don't know what to do here.


tl;dr fiancée got too drunk and flirty with a stripper and I think he fingered her. I found out after snooping and she's now staying at a friend's place and her whole friend/family circle is texting me non-stop. I don't know how to process this, what I should say next or how I should handle this.

Midnight Voyager fucked around with this message at 22:33 on May 31, 2019

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

HOT BREAD! posted:

uh none of the ones I went into, but okay

u gotta know the password before they'll show you the good stuff

InediblePenguin
Sep 27, 2004

I'm strong. And a giant penguin. Please don't eat me. No, really. Don't try.

Midnight Voyager posted:

Thus "problems aside." :V I thought it was odd to mention.

But I read it again and it says they live five hours away, and you know what, that is a bit too young for a five hour drive, never mind.

Time for a :yikes:

Fiancée [27/F] went “too far” at bachelorette party. I [28/M] am ready to call it off. People are telling me not to due to “extenuating circumstances”.

she was raped while her friends laughed and took pictures. jesus. even after the fact they still think it was, like, funny.

MasBrillante
Dec 3, 2005

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Midnight Voyager posted:

Thus "problems aside." :V I thought it was odd to mention.

But I read it again and it says they live five hours away, and you know what, that is a bit too young for a five hour drive, never mind.

Time for a :yikes:

Fiancée [27/F] went “too far” at bachelorette party. I [28/M] am ready to call it off. People are telling me not to due to “extenuating circumstances”.

I am DYING to know what this woman’s idea of a regular night out with friends is. I don’t think there’s enough liquor in the world to get five of my closest gal pals seminude, together, in public with a bunch of strange men.

Edit: Holy poo poo, went back for a closer read after IndeliblePenguin’s post and saw that finger thing. What th ENTIRE rapey gently caress?

MasBrillante fucked around with this message at 22:32 on May 31, 2019

Clark Nova
Jul 18, 2004

e: I suppose consent is pretty questionable in that story

Clark Nova fucked around with this message at 22:41 on May 31, 2019

snergle
Aug 3, 2013

A kind little mouse!

welcome to hell posted:

My (25M) girlfriend (30F) want me to keep a record of my masturbation in an Excel spreadsheet so she can monitor, is this normal?

this dude is in a trial and thinks the dr is his gf.

Midnight Voyager
Jul 2, 2008

Lipstick Apathy

InediblePenguin posted:

she was raped while her friends laughed and took pictures. jesus. even after the fact they still think it was, like, funny.

yikes, you're right, reads less consensual than it initially did when I take another look at it, I'll spoil it out.

MasBrillante
Dec 3, 2005

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Midnight Voyager posted:

yikes, you're right, reads less consensual than it initially did when I take another look at it, I'll spoil it out.

That’s because the narrator is having trouble parsing out her agency in betraying his trust versus what her friends did to her later in the night. In particular, the tldr conflates the two things. I wonder if she’s seen that photo.

Bag of Hamsters
Jul 12, 2006

Gimme yer frickin pancreas

I needs it for reasons.

LadyPictureShow posted:

I hate everyone in this stupid, pointless story.

My friend (M25) said I (F23) make the “ahego” face when I yawn, and it’s caused a bunch of useless drama.


Jesus Christ what a bunch of weirdo nerds. Not one, but all of them know the term for... anime porn face?!

I saw a dood wearing a shirt and sweatpants combo with ahegao faces printed all over it and loving crossed the street. I didn't think it was possible for men to get creepier than openly masturbating on the train.

LadyPictureShow
Nov 18, 2005

Success!



Midnight Voyager posted:

yikes, you're right, reads less consensual than it initially did when I take another look at it, I'll spoil it out.

The comments from that post are disgusting. 95% are like, she's a cheating slut, whereas a handful are 'yeah, she might not have brought it up because of the non-consensual poo poo that happened'.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014


How does having sex in the dark excuse him not knowing what his dick was going into?

MasBrillante
Dec 3, 2005

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

chitoryu12 posted:

How does having sex in the dark excuse him not knowing what his dick was going into?

He claimed that because people were and are credulous enough to believe it.

cumshitter
Sep 27, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
He had also apparently never had sex with a woman, only other boys from his fancy French school days.

MasBrillante
Dec 3, 2005

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

cumshitter posted:

He had also apparently never had sex with a woman, only other boys from his fancy French school days.

But he’d had sex with cis men. He knew who he was having sex with. It’s normal to lie about that seeing as how it’s nobody’s business.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

cumshitter posted:

He had also apparently never had sex with a woman, only other boys from his fancy French school days.

You’d think the experience would help him realize something was up then.

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

LadyPictureShow posted:

I hate everyone in this stupid, pointless story.

My friend (M25) said I (F23) make the “ahego” face when I yawn, and it’s caused a bunch of useless drama.


Jesus Christ what a bunch of weirdo nerds. Not one, but all of them know the term for... anime porn face?!

Dear Abby, I yawned and tore my social life asunder.

Piell
Sep 3, 2006

Grey Worm's Ken doll-like groin throbbed with the anticipatory pleasure that only a slightly warm and moist piece of lemoncake could offer


Young Orc
AITA For calling 911 on a homeless lady?

quote:

I’m not sure she was homeless but it seemed like she was in that kind of situation or similar. She came up to me after work ask asked if I had any cash. I don’t carry cash so I told her so and went to my car. This thing doesn’t usually happen where I live and it was in broad daylight on a busy street so I figured she might need help or something. My state is also known for human trafficking, though this is a pretty safe town. I just figured that whatever the situation was the police might be better equipped to handle it. She was African American though and I didn’t have any racial motives but I also know that sometimes police themselves can have racial motives when interviewing people they get calls about. I didn’t stick around to see what happened. Am I the rear end in a top hat for calling the police on her?

Tl;dr called the cops after being approached by a seemingly homeless woman.

TehRedWheelbarrow
Mar 16, 2011



Fan of Britches
:murder:

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Piell posted:

AITA For calling 911 on a homeless lady?
you had racial motives

hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

Piell posted:

AITA For calling 911 on a homeless lady?

Christ

MasBrillante
Dec 3, 2005

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

FactsAreUseless posted:

you had racial motives

The narcissistic catharsis isn’t complete until she gets attention for it.

Fuck Your Website
Nov 29, 2003
FUCK YOU, AND FUCK YOUR WEBSITE

quote:

Dear Carolyn:

I married late in life, at 46, and prior to my marriage I was (mostly) happy as a single person. Husband had been married before and really identifies as part of a couple.

He has this thing he does that I find super annoying, and then feel guilty about being annoyed by, and I can't quite decide if it's a sweet thing I should learn to embrace or if it's subtle controlling/gaslighting behavior.

I am absorbed in reading/cooking/cleaning/other, and husband intently tries to get my attention: "Honey? Hey Honey? Hooooooney?" And when I answer (sometimes annoyed, sometimes sweetly), he says, "I love you!"

I get this sounds like he's a sweetheart, but he does this multiple times a day, and honestly I feel like I just can't concentrate on anything with him around and find myself getting annoyed more and more and more. Makes me feel like a supreme bitch because the message is so sweet, and what wife doesn't want to hear "I love you" 20 times per day? Am I an ungrateful rat bitch, or is he deliberately trying to make me focus on him for every waking second of my day?

-- Annoyed Ingrate
"Hey, I thought we got married so you would pay attention to me 24 loving hours a day, not read your drat books or whatever"
:murder:

Mr. Lobe
Feb 23, 2007

... Dry bones...


did she marry a cat or something?

Bag of Hamsters
Jul 12, 2006

Gimme yer frickin pancreas

I needs it for reasons.

gently caress Your Website posted:

"Hey, I thought we got married so you would pay attention to me 24 loving hours a day, not read your drat books or whatever"
:murder:

I'll bet my goddamn shirt that this guy also makes incessant Old Man Attention Noises where he groans or huffs or sighs whenever he's in the vicinity of someone else so that their attention is constantly on him.

Any patriarch worth the guillotine should be able to make his wife's cortisol spike to heart incident levels.

Fuck Your Website
Nov 29, 2003
FUCK YOU, AND FUCK YOUR WEBSITE
You know you've been reading this thread awhile when you see "It's the best relationship I have ever been in and I love him" and your knee-jerk reaction is LEAVE NOW GET OUT HONEY

quote:

I've been dating my boyfriend for 11 months. It's the best relationship I have ever been in and I love him.

Last weekend he found out about a social media account I didn't tell him about and got very upset. He found out when I showed him a cute kitten post on the site, so it wasn't so much a secret as an omission.

He says this has made him reconsider our whole relationship and he doesn't feel like he knows me at all anymore. He says he is totally transparent (really? is anybody?) and I am withholding.

He swears his reaction is about the principle of not keeping secrets. I say the nature of the secret was so unimportant that his reaction is ridiculous.

My mom says he is controlling and gaslighting me. I'm not sure, but something does feel wrong. He sees the world in more black-and-white; I see more gray. I don't know what to think anymore. Is his reaction over the top?

-- Is It Abuse?

"Had to dump her man, she made an Insta account without telling me first"

"Whew, dodged a bullet there"

Patrick Spens
Jul 21, 2006

"Every quarterback says they've got guts, But how many have actually seen 'em?"
Pillbug

Piell posted:

AITA For calling 911 on a homeless lady?

gently caress you lady.

sephiRoth IRA
Jun 13, 2007

"Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality."

-Carl Sagan
That bachelorette story is brutal. Hard to blame him for breaking things off but goddamn if that sounds sketchy as gently caress.

Literally A Person
Jan 1, 1970

Smugworth Wuz Here

gently caress Your Website posted:

You know you've been reading this thread awhile when you see "It's the best relationship I have ever been in and I love him" and your knee-jerk reaction is LEAVE NOW GET OUT HONEY


"Had to dump her man, she made an Insta account without telling me first"

I was imagining him finding out she had registered an account on these here something awful humor forums.

Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS

gently caress Your Website posted:

"Hey, I thought we got married so you would pay attention to me 24 loving hours a day, not read your drat books or whatever"
:murder:
Oh man what the hell??? I mean, I don't say murder until I hear the results of the straightforward conversation in which she expresses her issue here, but sheesh.

Blade Runner
Aug 14, 2015

Piell posted:

AITA For calling 911 on a homeless lady?

Jesus loving Christ

Fuck Your Website
Nov 29, 2003
FUCK YOU, AND FUCK YOUR WEBSITE
Here's one where the reply is worth including:

quote:

Dear Amy: This is about my daughter-in-law and a family heirloom I gave to her.

My youngest son and daughter-in-law were very close with me until several years ago. I have no idea what happened between us, but they became very distant. I asked if I had done something wrong, and they didn't answer.

When my son told me they were getting engaged, I said that I would love it if they would accept the engagement ring that I received from my grandfather when I was 18. My grandfather gave me a diamond, which I put in a setting. I wore that ring for 29 years.

When they officially announced their engagement I noticed she was wearing a different ring. I asked my son why he didn't give her my ring. He said that she simply wanted her own.

Well, eight years later, I have never seen her wear it. I have asked about it a few times. My son asked me to leave it alone.

Well, Amy, this is driving me crazy and I cannot leave it alone.

My oldest son and his wife are blessed with five boys and one girl. My princess granddaughter has just turned 13, and is going to her first cotillion ball. I would love for this child's father to give the ring to her as a promise ring to stay a virgin until she gets married, when another man would put another ring on her finger.

Of course, if I ever saw my daughter-in-law wearing the ring, I wouldn't ask for it back. Can you help me ask for it back?

-- Sad Heart

quote:

Dear Sad Heart: I'm not going to pass judgment on the idea of a father giving his daughter a "promise ring" to somehow magically guarantee her virginity until another man claims her.

Except wait -- the judgment is bubbling up and, like you, it is driving me crazy and I cannot leave it alone.

A "promise ring" sends such backward messages to a girl -- it says that she can't be trusted to make choices concerning her own body, so that her father basically holds her virginity until another man comes along to take it. Promise rings don't work. Education and empowerment do work.

When it comes to this heirloom ring, you gave it to someone. You didn't ask her if she wanted it or if she would wear it. You gave it to her, and now you are trying to attach strings to the gift.

Your relationship with your daughter-in-law is already so poor that you have nothing to lose by simply asking her if she would be willing to pass this ring along to your granddaughter (her niece). Otherwise, you might follow in your grandfather's footsteps and give a special stone to a special grandchild, and renew the tradition.

Beachcomber
May 21, 2007

Another day in paradise.


Slippery Tilde

Midnight Voyager posted:


Fiancée [27/F] went “too far” at bachelorette party. I [28/M] am ready to call it off. People are telling me not to due to “extenuating circumstances”.

I think he has to break it off, because otherwise it'd be hanging over her for years until they got divorced. Power balance is all hosed up if one partner can't respect the other. Cancelling the wedding is better for her in the long run.

Antivehicular
Dec 30, 2011


I wanna sing one for the cars
That are right now headed silent down the highway
And it's dark and there is nobody driving And something has got to give

gently caress Your Website posted:

Here's one where the reply is worth including:

Boy, this one has repulsive layers, like a rotten onion. Wanting to take back a gift from your "bad"/estranged child's family to give to your "good" child's family, the "princess" granddaughter, and of course the virginity promise horseshit... so gross, all the way down.

HIJK
Nov 25, 2012
in the room where you sleep

LadyPictureShow posted:

I hate everyone in this stupid, pointless story.

My friend (M25) said I (F23) make the “ahego” face when I yawn, and it’s caused a bunch of useless drama.


Jesus Christ what a bunch of weirdo nerds. Not one, but all of them know the term for... anime porn face?!

:murder: your friends for being so porn addicted they think yawning is a sex thing

DemoneeHo
Nov 9, 2017

Come on hee-ho, just give us 300 more macca


[update] My wife tried to hide my daughter from me. Am I wrong to feel this angry?

quote:

Hesitant to post an update after how infuriating some of the replies in the previous thread were, but figure I owe it to those of you that offered genuine well meaning advice. Plus I've had some time to calm down. I probably wont reply to comments because otherwise I'm just going to get worked up again by people saying my wife didn't betray my trust etc.

If you're a woman and are going to say it's "understandable" what my wife did, then consider how you'd feel if you put a kid up for adoption when you were young, that kid tried to reach out when they turned 18... And your husband told them you wanted nothing to with them without ever telling you they tried to reach out. It's not "understandable".

Wife texted me yesterday and said we "needed to talk" while I was at work. This was the first time either of us had spoken or messaged each other since the fight. I dropped our kids off at my parents' house so we could be alone and went straight home. I'm not sure exactly what I was expecting her to say, but I genuinely hoped she would at least apologise first and foremost. Because in my opinion she severely betrayed my trust by not only denying my agency, but also lying to me about it, and then downplaying the entire ordeal.

When I get home and we sit down to talk the first thing she says is that she "forbids" me from seeing this young woman. Not an apology. An ultimatum that if I went and saw her, she would kick me out of the house (which is laughable considering I owned the house before marrying her...)

I asked her if she was serious. If she isn't even going to apologise etc, and she reaffirmed she has nothing to apologise for. Yeah, okay. At this point I remembered someone's comment in that post about how she might have done this before. I asked her if she has ever done anything like this previously and she said no. I kept pushing her and she kept saying no. Finally I told her that I had already called the fertility clinic to reach out to any parents and explain what my wife had done in case they had tried to contact me previously (not sure what has come of that yet). I explain that if I find out she has and she doesn't come clean now, I'm divorcing her immediately. She immediately changes tune and says she has "only" done it one other time. "Only". gently caress, that "only" infuriated me even though it's just a god drat word.

Anyway turns out another girl called a couple years back after she turned 18 too. Her parents are lesbians and so she just wanted to meet her biological father since she doesn't have a father of her own (according to my wife, so take it with a grain of salt at this point). I tend to believe what she's saying, as the original girl also has lesbian parents and wanted to meet me for the same reason. She wouldn't say exactly what she said to this young women, but she did say she made sure she'd stay away from our family. I mean, at least my wife was finally honest with me, but Jesus Christ what a loving heartless thing to do.

I feel like I don't even know my wife. The woman I thought I married had some loving empathy.

She still hasn't apologised and goes back to "forbidding" me from seeing this young woman. I explained she no longer has a say in the matter. Had she explained her concerns to me like an adult, I would have listened to them and taken them seriously. But by trying to deny me having any choice in the matter, and for being needlessly cruel to these girls, she doesn't get a say in this anymore.

I told her she has 7 days to give me a genuine apology and agree to marriage counselling, or I would call a divorce lawyer. I also reaffirmed she doesn't get a say in whether I meet with this girl, but I would consider her feelings if any future kids reach out (and she doesn't loving lie about it).

A few hours later she "apologised". I say "apologised" in quotes because it was clearly not genuine. But whatever, it's at least an admission of guilt. So we're going to to marriage counselling and try to work through this.

Tbh though, I don't think I'll ever see her the same way again. So I have doubts our marriage will last.

cumshitter
Sep 27, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

chitoryu12 posted:

You’d think the experience would help him realize something was up then.

Every butthole is as beautiful and unique as the wrinkles of its sphincter. No two alike, each one special like a snowflake.

Fuck Your Website
Nov 29, 2003
FUCK YOU, AND FUCK YOUR WEBSITE

DemoneeHo posted:

[update] My wife tried to hide my daughter from me. Am I wrong to feel this angry?

Wow. gently caress that bitch.

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

何 ??

DemoneeHo posted:

[update] My wife tried to hide my daughter from me. Am I wrong to feel this angry?

Jfc just sever you coward, why would you do this to yourself

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TehRedWheelbarrow
Mar 16, 2011



Fan of Britches

DemoneeHo posted:

[update] My wife tried to hide my daughter from me. Am I wrong to feel this angry?

:tviv:

this is content :aaaaa:

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