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professor_curly posted:
For reference, this is the battleship we're still building: That's not a cruiser, it's a mislabeled battleship!
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# ? Jun 2, 2019 07:27 |
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# ? Jun 9, 2024 20:06 |
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Bah, what use does a destroyer have for a rear mounted gun? It should either be charging directly at the enemy or well out of the range of its tiny little guns. The Komar design features an additional centerline mounted torpedo launcher, capable of firing off either side, in exchange for removing the aft mounted gun and generally skimping on the other weapons. Komar.30d
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# ? Jun 2, 2019 08:39 |
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Ladies and *nom* Gentlemen, I am proud to present my two *nom* newest designs. First off *munch* we have the *munch* six-hundred ton destroyer *nom*, the Proyekt 10603. The chief *snarf* element of its *nom* design is the realization *nom* that torpedo launchers weigh more *munch* than unshielded guns. By putting all our launchers *glug glug* on the centerline, we achieve a maximum torpedo *nom* broadside with minimum *nom* weight. This may *munch* cause some balance issues *munch*, but they're only *munch* destroyers, so who *munch* really cares? They launch torpedoes and die. *Glug glug glug glug* Secondly, there is the matter *nom* of the F-35 cruiser. Naturally *snarf* I have my own proposal *munch* for this, the Proyekt 31303 armored cruiser. *Om nom* It is a somewhat defensive design *munch*, intended to be present *nom* as a threat and unlikely to go away. As such *munch* it features significantly extended *nom* belt armor, to better *nom* prevent it from sinking, as well as a fairly splinter-proof *munch* deck. The engine *nom* is sturdy and reliable to prevent breakdowns *nom* during assignments, and the crew quarters *munch* and supply stores are sufficient. It also *nom* has two torpedo tubes. I trust *nom* that you will see how superior these design are *munch munch*. Boksi fucked around with this message at 11:31 on Jun 2, 2019 |
# ? Jun 2, 2019 09:55 |
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vyelkin posted:For reference, this is the battleship we're still building: It's an UNARMOURED battleship. which is worse. Because as soon as it meets something with decent calibur artillery it goes BOOM.
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# ? Jun 2, 2019 11:22 |
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FROM THE DESK OF K. VORCHUN CHIEF DESIGNER, BALTIC YARDS SANKT-PETERBURG An armored cruiser of that size, as you say, is just a battleship without enough armor. Let me present to you something better: an armored cruiser without enough armor! The protected cruiser Pallada outguns every other protected cruiser afloat, and is fast enough to withdraw from engagements with armored cruisers!
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# ? Jun 2, 2019 11:29 |
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(Prince Valeryan Igorovich Urodlivyy, at a historical costume ball in St. Petersburg, circa 1899) To my most beloved and treasured cousin, my most august and brilliant emperor, Nicolai Alexandrovich, I and my salon-mates in Русские созданы для борьбы и победы were overjoyed at the tenders for new designs. We hopped to, and in no time at all and after only a few nights of vodka fueled debating, have prepared the following proposals for the Admiralty. First, the 600 ton Destroyer program. Podliv-class Torpedo Destroyer Ship Design & Ship Picture A 600 ton rapier of a ship, it's primary purpose is to drive into range and loose their deadly prey at the behemoths of the sea. As such, it only mounts two 3" guns, and instead its teeth come from four above water torpedo tubes. Making a stunning THIRTY knots, it will close and harpoon any beast on the sea and then be able to effectuate its escape, while at the same time being able to screen any destroyers our opponents could hope to create. Indeed, it's a good two knots faster than any other boat in our fleet, and a full seven knots faster than any other ship in any other navy in the world. Let the capital ships of our enemy hear the whine of the Podliv, and fear. Secondly, the JTF BOONDOGGLE F35 competition. Our submission to the JTF BOONDOGGLE F35 are a set of two armored cruisers and two light cruisers, which together will outgun, out-ton, and out-run any other set of ships on this planet. The ships are compliant with both NSLB and program requirements of a 23 knot speed and costing less than 60,000,000 a ship- indeed the full program costs are estimated to be set of four ships comes in at roughly 187 million rubles, more than 50 million less than the maximum budget. Khokkey-class Armored Cruiser Ship Design & Ship Picture The two ships of the Khokkey class, we humbly recommend the names "Ovechkin" and "Tretiak," are as beautiful as they are deadly. Massing a full 15,000 tons, they still make a formidable 23 knots, and their engines are designed for long, sustained use. They do not have the main battery of a battleship, but their armor is proof against almost all modern guns and moreover their secondary and tertiary batteries alone are capable of shredding any non-battleship combatant they might face. The one thing this marvel of modern Russian ingenuity does not have are torpedo tubes, which the ship would have to slow down to use. With a Gunscoretm of 232, it will match anything anyone anywhere can throw at it, at any time. Revizor-class Light Cruiser, mk. 2 Ship Design & Ship Picture. Yes, this is a ship that is highly similar to our last submission, but that is because the fundamental design of the Revizor is sound. With a years worth of rapid scientific advancement, and a shift away from long to medium range duration, the Revizor mk. 2 is an all around improvement upon the prior design. The Main, Secondary, and Tertiary batteries have all been upgraded in caliber, and armor has been slightly thickened, while the engine has been modified to ensure that it will continue to run at 23 knots come hell or high water. With four torpedo mounts it can threaten any opponent, while the 8 inch main batteries match modern Armored Cruisers and it packs a broadside equal to almost any battleship afloat, leading to a Gunscoretm of 192. Cousin, I present these designs to you as your humble and loyal servant, Yours, always, Valeroshka. habeasdorkus fucked around with this message at 12:59 on Jun 5, 2019 |
# ? Jun 2, 2019 17:13 |
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LOLZ shipwrights first present our entry for the 600 Act: we took the design goals quite literally when drawing up the Igla. Maximum torpedoes, speed and guns, minimal range and crew comfort. Ctankep is our submission for the F35 act. 5x10 broadside can be upgraded to 6x10 when someone moves the lifeboats (when cross deck fire is invented) This vessel takes many cues from our previous entry, the Blyat. It retains high level of speed, the same level of armor protection against splinters throughout the hull. design will be posted later tonight, away from computer. Infidelicious fucked around with this message at 03:46 on Jun 3, 2019 |
# ? Jun 2, 2019 19:36 |
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As a reminder for my fellow shipwrights, our good Admiral Croctopusevich wants us to link a copy of the ship file if we're to be considered for selection.
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# ? Jun 3, 2019 00:16 |
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Please vote on the following designs. Destroyers: Molniya Podliv Proyekt 10603 Komar Cruisers: Grom Khokkey Revizor Proyekt_31303 professor_curly posted:The P_C Design Bureau has created the following ship prototypes to meet the requisitions listed. habeasdorkus posted:
Boksi posted:Ladies and *nom* Gentlemen, I am proud to present my two *nom* newest designs. First off *munch* we have the *munch* six-hundred ton destroyer *nom*, the Proyekt 10603. The chief *snarf* element of its *nom* design is the realization *nom* that torpedo launchers weigh more *munch* than unshielded guns. By putting all our launchers *glug glug* on the centerline, we achieve a maximum torpedo *nom* broadside with minimum *nom* weight. This may *munch* cause some balance issues *munch*, but they're only *munch* destroyers, so who *munch* really cares? They launch torpedoes and die. Bremen posted:Bah, what use does a destroyer have for a rear mounted gun? It should either be charging directly at the enemy or well out of the range of its tiny little guns.
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# ? Jun 3, 2019 05:12 |
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I definitely meant the ship design file to attach, thats my bad. Voting for the 10603 and 31303 designs
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# ? Jun 3, 2019 05:18 |
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Podliv destroyer - it's fast, it has a decent number of tin fish. Grom cruiser - it's actually a good ship, despite the somewhat kooky gun layout.
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# ? Jun 3, 2019 07:35 |
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grom and podliv I think meet our needs best
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# ? Jun 3, 2019 07:59 |
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I vote for the two Proyekts.
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# ? Jun 3, 2019 10:25 |
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Bit of a time skip in the middle there.
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# ? Jun 3, 2019 10:34 |
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Podliv And the khokky/revizor pairing for the F-35
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# ? Jun 3, 2019 12:40 |
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simplefish posted:Podliv Yeah, the Khokky/Revizor should be one selection- they're meant to be built as a pair. I'm going to abstain since I submitted for both designs.
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# ? Jun 3, 2019 12:46 |
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Kind of lame that design files need to be posted before voting even starts, as someone's files didn't upload right and I was unable to make it back to my computer until today due to doing stuff away from home over the weekend; when the files aren't actually needed for another 24 hours while voting happens. Especially since if a design wins with no files uploaded / sent by close of voting, then you can just make the runner up with files available win. Infidelicious fucked around with this message at 17:56 on Jun 3, 2019 |
# ? Jun 3, 2019 16:53 |
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The Grom and the Komar
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# ? Jun 3, 2019 16:53 |
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Cantorsdust posted:I will only vote for the act if it has VTOL capability Historian's note: Although the Royal Navy had trialed underway replenishment of coal from colliers to battleships as early as 1870, and by 1902 was demonstrating a then astonishing ship to ship transfer average of 47 tons of coal per hour, the need to eliminate the vulnerability in wartime of coaling stations was not pressing to the Imperial Russian Navy. In those days, the only long range voyages envisioned were from baltic to black sea or pacific bases and they did not yet envision that as a needed wartime maneuver (much to their ruth during the Rather, operational studies conducted in the last decade of the 19th century revealed that the most frequent cause of ships return to port was not a lack of coal or food or ammunition, but rather depletion of the ship's alcohol locker. Recent studies of naval supply records indicate that as much as three quarters of the time ships returned to port with coal in the bunkers and vodka in the sailor's rations, but with the officer's mess out of spirits. Early experiments using the British system of lines and winches to transfer crates of spirits had miserable effective transfer rates due to breakage of the containers within the crates. It was in 1902 that a particularly ingenious (or drunk) young captain developed the VTOL, or Vodka Top Off Line, system. By holding liquor in giant casks aboard merchantmen or obsolete but still seaworthy ships of war, the supplying ship could pass a siphon over the yardarm and to the side of the ship being supplied, which would run the siphon directly to the galley, stores, or officer's mess. It is a testament to the mindset of the Imperial Navy that the idea caught on so quickly, among the common sailor and aristocratic officer corps alike. Podliv And the khokky/revizor pairing for the F-35
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# ? Jun 3, 2019 22:01 |
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quote:Current states Britain will be the target of our best spies. Three submarines are ordered. The designs for the Grom class armoured cruiser and the Podliv class destroyer are put to the design board. January 1903 These new corvettes will help protect our waters. We do our part for diplomacy and hush up a few indiscretions by British diplomats. Our submarines no longer have to surface to see where they are going! Ten destroyers are ordered. February 1903 More Corvettes are commissioned. Our ships are better at shooting. We are forced to rescue some of our diplomats from an local uprising, we send a battleship to make sure they are safe. We are forced to enter German waters to do so, and they take this as an act of war. Tensions were running high already, but we could not risk the diplomats safety. Our ships try and open the war, but no contact is made. War is upon us. The corvettes are put on trade protection, the rest of the fleet is put back on active status. March1903 Three more Corvettes are commissioned. The Germans come for our shipping. Our force, lead by the battleships Dvenadstat Apsotolov, Imperator Pavel I and the Tesarevich make contact. The Elsass class battleships. While their armour is comparable to our own, we are running three ships with 12 guns to their three ships with 9 guns. [b]11:37[b] The Germans score the first hit. We score a hit two minutes later. These are all from secondary batteries. [b]12:01[b] As our support ships close in, the Germans turn for home our own battleships are already complaining they need to clean the gates, after only an hour of full speed! [b]12:21[b] We score the first main battery hit on the rearmost battleship. [b]12:42[b] Heavy rain is making spotting hard, we nearly lose sight of them, but they turn north to engage once more. I race in the destroyers and scatter their battle line. The rain gets worse, and I focus on keeping a single ship in sight. Things are down to knife fighting ranges. We are trading hits. Weight of fire is going our way, and the German ship slows. Their other ships try and link back up. [b]13:48[b] The Elasss class catches fire! She soon slows to 5knts and loses her forward turret. The destroyer Bodri gets in close and puts two torpedoes into her! This leaves her dead in the water and sinking. We have lose sight of the rest of the German fleet, but turn south west to follow their last known course. [b]16:02b] Twilight begins to settle, and I decide I will not risk the fleet I've already been risking close range torpedo strikes more than I would like. A major victory, and one in the eye for Germany! We have sunk the Hessen. The weight of fire was surly on our side today! The Battle of Hango will long be remembered. 4 Grom class ships are laid down. We are building many ships. I am not sure how long we can continue building this many especially with the blockade now in place. While there will be no bills this session, I do need you to tell me which invasion target you wish me to go for East Prussia or the far eastern city of Tsingtau. Here is the comparison of our two fleets.
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# ? Jun 4, 2019 05:20 |
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Well done.quote:We have sunk the Hessen. The weight of fire was surly on our side today! Shirley you mean surely
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# ? Jun 4, 2019 05:47 |
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Tsingtao have beer. I mean I'd be surprised if East Prussia didn't, but Tsingtao gets us all but a regional monopoly on it!
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# ? Jun 4, 2019 06:02 |
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Tsingao Engaging Eastern Prussia will be a quagmire and messy, with the enemy ships nearer their own ports and us having a slog of it through the enemy's battle line. The place in the Far East? Lets us take an enemy colony, which gives us more strength/control of the area, means they'll have minimal forces there, and denies them any room taht they might use to threaten us in the Far East.
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# ? Jun 4, 2019 06:08 |
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wedgekree posted:Tsingao Agreed. Tsingtao.
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# ? Jun 4, 2019 06:17 |
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wedgekree posted:Tsingao I agree in theory, but whats the Germans force disposition in Northern Asia? If we don't have a decent tonnage advantage, it may go horribly wrong.
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# ? Jun 4, 2019 06:19 |
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Paingod556 posted:I agree in theory, but whats the Germans force disposition in Northern Asia? If we don't have a decent tonnage advantage, it may go horribly wrong. Probably better than it is in the Baltic.
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# ? Jun 4, 2019 06:20 |
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Well my vote to shove the germans failed but also failed to anticipate the germans might try and shove us Voting for Tsingtao
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# ? Jun 4, 2019 06:28 |
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Paingod556 posted:I agree in theory, but whats the Germans force disposition in Northern Asia? If we don't have a decent tonnage advantage, it may go horribly wrong. Thanks to my brilliant foresight, we have an entire battle fleet in the Far East! I doubt the Germans can say the same. Tsingtao
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# ? Jun 4, 2019 06:55 |
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青島 Tsingtao! Though, uh, the brewery wasnt actually founded until August 1903.
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# ? Jun 4, 2019 07:02 |
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Pirate Radar posted:青島 Tsingtao! We should wait. It's only six months.
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# ? Jun 4, 2019 07:28 |
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Tsingtao!
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# ? Jun 4, 2019 07:39 |
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Bremen posted:We should wait. It's only six months. It'll take us 6 months to win it, and if we're faster, we'll build it to celebrate!
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# ? Jun 4, 2019 08:15 |
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Centurium posted:Historian's note: vyelkin posted:Thanks to my brilliant foresight, we have an entire battle fleet in the Far East! I doubt the Germans can say the same.
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# ? Jun 4, 2019 08:52 |
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simplefish posted:It'll take us 6 months to win it, and if we're faster, we'll build it to celebrate! It is Russia who will build the brewery! Tsingato.
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# ? Jun 4, 2019 11:10 |
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wedgekree posted:Tsingao Veloxyll posted:Tsingato.
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# ? Jun 4, 2019 11:14 |
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Guys an invasion target costs an immense amount of money per month and is quite unlikely to actually get us anything in the 1900's. We also are two months from being bankrupt so spending more money right now is a very bad idea. [e]Grey you can extend the message log windows in the battle screen, right now it's cutting off the last third of a lot of messages.
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# ? Jun 4, 2019 11:27 |
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Saros posted:Guys an invasion target costs an immense amount of money per month and is quite unlikely to actually get us anything in the 1900's. We also are two months from being bankrupt so spending more money right now is a very bad idea. "No invasion" wasn't presented as an option though
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# ? Jun 4, 2019 13:51 |
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In general in RTW1 you wanted to grab as many colonies as possible, as quickly as possible so that is tsingtao
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# ? Jun 4, 2019 14:37 |
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Saros posted:Guys an invasion target costs an immense amount of money per month and is quite unlikely to actually get us anything in the 1900's. We also are two months from being bankrupt so spending more money right now is a very bad idea. With cold steel and indomitable spirit we will triumph over such petty constraints as "funding" and "logistics". Tsingtao!
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Saros posted:Guys an invasion target costs an immense amount of money per month and is quite unlikely to actually get us anything in the 1900's. We also are two months from being bankrupt so spending more money right now is a very bad idea. yeah, only 2 of the new class were supposed to be laid: quote:The Selected JSF will be built in 2 waves, as soon as possible. Though I guess the ASAP might have been confusing. I advise putting the new JSF on hold until other new construction is finished, as it is the primary contributor of the deficit. Infidelicious fucked around with this message at 16:31 on Jun 4, 2019 |
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