professor_curly posted:

Grom.30d

The Grom-class armored cruiser has the required speed and firepower to defeat any extent armored cruiser. A battery of twenty one 6-inch guns and an additional battery of twenty one 5-inch guns gives the Grom enough volume of fire that any opposing ship can quickly be battered into submission through the destruction of superstructure, the setting of fires and damage to turrets. In addition, it mounts two 12-inch guns in reliable, fast firing single turrets making it easily the most heavily armed cruiser in the world. It's armor is also better than any known cruiser sailing the seas, and at 23-knots there is no armored cruiser afloat that can hope to escape. All but the most advanced light cruisers will also be run down and destroyed. Although not designed to stand in the line of battle, even battleships can wither under the onslaught of the Grom-class, although at great risk to the cruiser itself.

No expense has been spared in crew accommodations, range or engine safety. Moreover, at a mere 59 million rubles, we can afford enough of these predators to make all current cruiser forces obsolete.

vyelkin posted:

For reference, this is the battleship we're still building:



That's not a cruiser, it's a mislabeled battleship!

professor_curly posted:

The P_C Design Bureau has created the following ship prototypes to meet the requisitions listed.

First, our 600-ton destroyer, the sleek and modern Molniya-class.


Molniya.30d

This vessel is represents a streamlined predator of the seas, able to hunt down and sink ships many times its own size. It's low silhouette and high-performance engine system means that it can dash into torpedo range faster than other destroyers while avoiding enemy fire and detection. Able to make 29 knots, this vessel more than meets the required speed and it maintains sufficient range to move between our bases in the Baltic and those in the Pacific. It mounts three swivel mounted torpedo tubes, two centerline 4-inch guns and an additional centerline 3-inch gun to give it excellent firepower against other destroyers if necessary.

To accompany our destroyer application, we have also created a design to fulfill the F35 act. The result of our design process is the Grom-class armored cruiser:


Grom.30d

The Grom-class armored cruiser has the required speed and firepower to defeat any extent armored cruiser. A battery of twenty one 6-inch guns and an additional battery of twenty one 5-inch guns gives the Grom enough volume of fire that any opposing ship can quickly be battered into submission through the destruction of superstructure, the setting of fires and damage to turrets. In addition, it mounts two 12-inch guns in reliable, fast firing single turrets making it easily the most heavily armed cruiser in the world. It's armor is also better than any known cruiser sailing the seas, and at 23-knots there is no armored cruiser afloat that can hope to escape. All but the most advanced light cruisers will also be run down and destroyed. Although not designed to stand in the line of battle, even battleships can wither under the onslaught of the Grom-class, although at great risk to the cruiser itself.

No expense has been spared in crew accommodations, range or engine safety. Moreover, at a mere 59 million rubles, we can afford enough of these predators to make all current cruiser forces obsolete.

habeasdorkus posted:

_{(Prince Valeryan Igorovich Urodlivyy, at a historical costume ball in St. Petersburg, circa 1899)}

To my most beloved and treasured cousin, my most august and brilliant emperor, Nicolai Alexandrovich,

I and my salon-mates in Русские созданы для борьбы и победы were overjoyed at the tenders for new designs. We hopped to, and in no time at all and after only a few nights of vodka fueled debating, have prepared the following proposals for the Admiralty.

First, the 600 ton Destroyer program.

Podliv-class Torpedo Destroyer


Ship Design & Ship Picture

A 600 ton rapier of a ship, it's primary purpose is to drive into range and loose their deadly prey at the behemoths of the sea. As such, it only mounts two 3" guns, and instead its teeth come from four above water torpedo tubes. Making a stunning THIRTY knots, it will close and harpoon any beast on the sea and then be able to effectuate its escape, while at the same time being able to screen any destroyers our opponents could hope to create. Indeed, it's a good two knots faster than any other boat in our fleet, and a full seven knots faster than any other ship in any other navy in the world. Let the capital ships of our enemy hear the whine of the Podliv, and fear.

Secondly, the JTF BOONDOGGLE F35 competition.

Our submission to the JTF BOONDOGGLE F35 are a set of two armored cruisers and two light cruisers, which together will outgun, out-ton, and out-run any other set of ships on this planet. The ships are compliant with both NSLB and program requirements of a 23 knot speed and costing less than 60,000,000 a ship- indeed the full program costs are estimated to be set of four ships comes in at roughly 187 million rubles, more than 50 million less than the maximum budget.

Khokkey-class Armored Cruiser


Ship Design & Ship Picture

The two ships of the Khokkey class, we humbly recommend the names "Ovechkin" and "Tretiak," are as beautiful as they are deadly. Massing a full 15,000 tons, they still make a formidable 23 knots, and their engines are designed for long, sustained use. They do not have the main battery of a battleship, but their armor is proof against almost all modern guns and moreover their secondary and tertiary batteries alone are capable of shredding any non-battleship combatant they might face. The one thing this marvel of modern Russian ingenuity does not have are torpedo tubes, which the ship would have to slow down to use. With a Gunscore^tm of 232, it will match anything anyone anywhere can throw at it, at any time.

Revizor-class Light Cruiser, mk. 2


Ship Design & Ship Picture.

Yes, this is a ship that is highly similar to our last submission, but that is because the fundamental design of the Revizor is sound. With a years worth of rapid scientific advancement, and a shift away from long to medium range duration, the Revizor mk. 2 is an all around improvement upon the prior design. The Main, Secondary, and Tertiary batteries have all been upgraded in caliber, and armor has been slightly thickened, while the engine has been modified to ensure that it will continue to run at 23 knots come hell or high water. With four torpedo mounts it can threaten any opponent, while the 8 inch main batteries match modern Armored Cruisers and it packs a broadside equal to almost any battleship afloat, leading to a Gunscore^tm of 192.

Cousin, I present these designs to you as your humble and loyal servant,
Yours, always,
Valeroshka.

Boksi posted:

Ladies and *nom* Gentlemen, I am proud to present my two *nom* newest designs. First off *munch* we have the *munch* six-hundred ton destroyer *nom*, the Proyekt 10603. The chief *snarf* element of its *nom* design is the realization *nom* that torpedo launchers weigh more *munch* than unshielded guns. By putting all our launchers *glug glug* on the centerline, we achieve a maximum torpedo *nom* broadside with minimum *nom* weight. This may *munch* cause some balance issues *munch*, but they're only *munch* destroyers, so who *munch* really cares? They launch torpedoes and die.



*Glug glug glug glug*
Secondly, there is the matter *nom* of the F-35 cruiser. Naturally *snarf* I have my own proposal *munch* for this, the Proyekt 31303 armored cruiser. *Om nom* It is a somewhat defensive design *munch*, intended to be present *nom* as a threat and unlikely to go away. As such *munch* it features significantly extended *nom* belt armor, to better *nom* prevent it from sinking, as well as a fairly splinter-proof *munch* deck. The engine *nom* is sturdy and reliable to prevent breakdowns *nom* during assignments, and the crew quarters *munch* and supply stores are sufficient. It also *nom* has two torpedo tubes.



I trust *nom* that you will see how superior these design are *munch munch*.

Bremen posted:

Bah, what use does a destroyer have for a rear mounted gun? It should either be charging directly at the enemy or well out of the range of its tiny little guns.

The Komar design features an additional centerline mounted torpedo launcher, capable of firing off either side, in exchange for removing the aft mounted gun and generally skimping on the other weapons.


Komar.30d

Grey Hunter posted:

simplefish posted:

Podliv

And the khokky/revizor pairing for the F-35

Cantorsdust posted:

I will only vote for the act if it has VTOL capability

quote:

Current states
Germany – Neutral
Britain – Friendly
Austria-Hungary – Hostile
France – Neutral
Italy – Neutral
Japan – Hostile
USA – Friendly.

Priority 1 – Budget
Priority 2 - Prestige.

quote:

We have sunk the Hessen. The weight of fire was surly on our side today!

wedgekree posted:

Tsingao

Engaging Eastern Prussia will be a quagmire and messy, with the enemy ships nearer their own ports and us having a slog of it through the enemy's battle line.

The place in the Far East? Lets us take an enemy colony, which gives us more strength/control of the area, means they'll have minimal forces there, and denies them any room taht they might use to threaten us in the Far East.

wedgekree posted:

Tsingao

Engaging Eastern Prussia will be a quagmire and messy, with the enemy ships nearer their own ports and us having a slog of it through the enemy's battle line.

The place in the Far East? Lets us take an enemy colony, which gives us more strength/control of the area, means they'll have minimal forces there, and denies them any room taht they might use to threaten us in the Far East.

Paingod556 posted:

I agree in theory, but whats the Germans force disposition in Northern Asia? If we don't have a decent tonnage advantage, it may go horribly wrong.

Paingod556 posted:

I agree in theory, but whats the Germans force disposition in Northern Asia? If we don't have a decent tonnage advantage, it may go horribly wrong.

Pirate Radar posted:

青島 Tsingtao!

Though, uh, the brewery wasn’t actually founded until August 1903.

Bremen posted:

We should wait. It's only six months.

Centurium posted:

Historian's note:

vyelkin posted:

Thanks to my brilliant foresight, we have an entire battle fleet in the Far East! I doubt the Germans can say the same.

simplefish posted:

It'll take us 6 months to win it, and if we're faster, we'll build it to celebrate!

wedgekree posted:

Tsingao

Veloxyll posted:

Tsingato.

Saros posted:

Guys an invasion target costs an immense amount of money per month and is quite unlikely to actually get us anything in the 1900's. We also are two months from being bankrupt so spending more money right now is a very bad idea.

Saros posted:

Guys an invasion target costs an immense amount of money per month and is quite unlikely to actually get us anything in the 1900's. We also are two months from being bankrupt so spending more money right now is a very bad idea.

[e]Grey you can extend the message log windows in the battle screen, right now it's cutting off the last third of a lot of messages.

Saros posted:

Guys an invasion target costs an immense amount of money per month and is quite unlikely to actually get us anything in the 1900's. We also are two months from being bankrupt so spending more money right now is a very bad idea.

[e]Grey you can extend the message log windows in the battle screen, right now it's cutting off the last third of a lot of messages.

quote:

The Selected JSF will be built in 2 waves, as soon as possible.