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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!!
May 31, 2006

Mr.Trifecta posted:

I was just thinking. Paradox Interactive is announcing a new game at PDXCON soon. I am going to guess its Battletech Grand Strategy game. I think it could work.

Star Colonel, Dekker tried to have me assassinated so I would not uncover his plot to assassinate Dekker
Yours,
Dekker

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Radio Free Kobold
Aug 11, 2012

"Federal regulations mandate that at least 30% of our content must promote Reptilian or Draconic culture. This is DJ Scratch N' Sniff with the latest mermaid screeching on KBLD..."




Mr.Trifecta posted:

I was just thinking. Paradox Interactive is announcing a new game at PDXCON soon. I am going to guess its Battletech Grand Strategy game. I think it could work.

It's Victoria 3.

Stravag
Jun 7, 2009

Salvage operations is the greatest thing ever. Even better it doesn't work with rougetech. Haaaaaa suck it alecto

Amechwarrior
Jan 29, 2007

I need a narrative idea for my UW FP. Looking at the Attack/Defend stream, I'm thinking some kind of corporate warfare angle ending with that contract type, where both of the factions Have their HQs side by side (two brothers or some family thing in opposing businesses?) and you end up choosing which side to assault. I need some goon spitballs as that worked great last time. What would the story be about and what's the FP choice for?

Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009

Hatfields and McCoys!

Both are family businesses big in the moonshine trade (or some other illicit substance) and have a feud going back forever, maybe even including a literal hog. Or better yet, make it "War Pig" a prized Hunchback that both families claim is theirs. You start out playing both sides, with some scouting and skirmishing. Eventually, they catch-wise, and you have to pick who to support but, as a twist, some local or regional authority comes in and offers to pay big if you take down both families. Leading to,

1) side with family A and fight against a larger number of light enemies.
2) side with family B and fight a smaller number of heavy enemies.
3) side with THE MAN and fight everyone for a bigger payday.

Skippy McPants fucked around with this message at 15:00 on Jun 2, 2019

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

Radio Free Kobold posted:

It's Victoria 3.

God please. Victoria 2 is still one of their better titles and is screaming for an update.

Darkrenown
Jul 18, 2012
please give me anything to talk about besides the fact that democrats are allowing millions of americans to be evicted from their homes
It's neither V3 or Battletech related :p

I fired up BT last night to check out the new stuff and on my very first mission I forgot what the red area on the map meant and promptly lost 2 mechs to the dropship landing on them :negative:

HORMELCHILI
Jan 13, 2010


Amechwarrior posted:

I need a narrative idea for my UW FP. Looking at the Attack/Defend stream, I'm thinking some kind of corporate warfare angle ending with that contract type, where both of the factions Have their HQs side by side (two brothers or some family thing in opposing businesses?) and you end up choosing which side to assault. I need some goon spitballs as that worked great last time. What would the story be about and what's the FP choice for?

Rip off Fistful of Dollars

Tanith
Jul 17, 2005


Alpha, Beta, Gamma cores
Use them, lose them, salvage more
Kick off the next AI war
In the Persean Sector

Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:

Star Colonel, Dekker tried to have me assassinated so I would not uncover his plot to assassinate Dekker
Yours,
Dekker

It's Star Captain Bekker


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1-kwfI3OT0

DatonKallandor
Aug 21, 2009

"I can no longer sit back and allow nationalist shitposting, nationalist indoctrination, nationalist subversion, and the German nationalist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious game balance."

Darkrenown posted:

It's neither V3 or Battletech related :p

I fired up BT last night to check out the new stuff and on my very first mission I forgot what the red area on the map meant and promptly lost 2 mechs to the dropship landing on them :negative:

Wiz' secret project?!


vvv God don't remind me. Fuckin' Microsoft.

DatonKallandor fucked around with this message at 17:40 on Jun 2, 2019

evilmiera
Dec 14, 2009

Status: Ravenously Rambunctious

Darkrenown posted:

It's neither V3 or Battletech related :p

I fired up BT last night to check out the new stuff and on my very first mission I forgot what the red area on the map meant and promptly lost 2 mechs to the dropship landing on them :negative:

Crimson Skies!....somehow

Amechwarrior
Jan 29, 2007

Skippy McPants posted:

Hatfields and McCoys!

Both are family businesses big in the moonshine trade (or some other illicit substance) and have a feud going back forever, maybe even including a literal hog. Or better yet, make it "War Pig" a prized Hunchback that both families claim is theirs. You start out playing both sides, with some scouting and skirmishing. Eventually, they catch-wise, and you have to pick who to support but, as a twist, some local or regional authority comes in and offers to pay big if you take down both families. Leading to,

1) side with family A and fight against a larger number of light enemies.
2) side with family B and fight a smaller number of heavy enemies.
3) side with THE MAN and fight everyone for a bigger payday.


HORMELCHILI posted:

Rip off Fistful of Dollars

All of these. Yes. Yojimbo/Fist Full of Dollars is a great place to be for a FP choice. The literal pig would be hilarious for a recovery mission.

Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

We're fucking built for this shit!
Have "War Pig" the Hunchback or whatever, and work into the FP at some point rescuing an actual pig. Like;

Client: We need you to go rescue the pig.
Darius: But, we just recovered the War Pig on our last drop.
Client: No, no, not War Pig. The family's prized sow.


Except you know, write actual dialog and make it funny.

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World
I'd forgotten how funny the Steiner alliance flashpoint was.

"Go assassinate heavies and assaults with a light lance!"

"Now go do a target acquisition on a tight time limit with a jillion ton minimum!"

NOW CUT DOWN A TREE WITH...THIS HERRING! :haw:

evilmiera
Dec 14, 2009

Status: Ravenously Rambunctious
I had heard of the Assault mech scout mission before launch and had started prepping accordingly with jumpjets. Still had some issues, but it felt like a great challenge.

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World

evilmiera posted:

I had heard of the Assault mech scout mission before launch and had started prepping accordingly with jumpjets. Still had some issues, but it felt like a great challenge.

It's easy if you keep a couple of the seemingly lovely fast assault mechs around and just max out their front armor and jump jets instead of just selling them off.

I did it with a Banshee, Battlemaster, Cyclops plus an Orion and it was no biggie. Doing it with slow assaults is a pain in the rear end though.

Polka_Rapper
Jan 22, 2011

Amechwarrior posted:

I need a narrative idea for my UW FP. Looking at the Attack/Defend stream, I'm thinking some kind of corporate warfare angle ending with that contract type, where both of the factions Have their HQs side by side (two brothers or some family thing in opposing businesses?) and you end up choosing which side to assault. I need some goon spitballs as that worked great last time. What would the story be about and what's the FP choice for?

Poorly photoshop mechs into the TF2 comics.

JerikTelorian
Jan 19, 2007



Darkrenown posted:

It's neither V3 or Battletech related :p

Sengoku 2?

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World
I am at the point I need to grind rep for alliance flashpoints, and uh it kind of sucks when draconis combine missions don't even spawn. :mad:

rocketrobot
Jul 11, 2003

Did else anyone wake up today thinking it was the 4th and get really excited about UW? :saddowns:

Tuesday release dates are pretty drat smart. Not rushing into it after a weekend (assuming no crazy pre-release weekend) with a couple of days to work out any emergency fixes before the weekend.

Cynic Jester
Apr 11, 2009

Let's put a simile on that face
A dazzling simile
Twinkling like the night sky
Fuckers releasing both Warcrimes and Stellaris DLC on the same day. Woe is me.

binge crotching
Apr 2, 2010

Cynic Jester posted:

Fuckers releasing both Warcrimes and Stellaris DLC on the same day. Woe is me.

Paradox are just cruel

Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow
I started playing the vanilla campaign again and I think I spent five turns with four mechs trying to kill the world's toughest Firestarter. Even knocked down it just would not die.

OddObserver
Apr 3, 2009

Cynic Jester posted:

Fuckers releasing both Warcrimes and Stellaris DLC on the same day. Woe is me.

Hmm, on that note Stellaris seems to be missing mechs.

binge crotching
Apr 2, 2010

OddObserver posted:

Hmm, on that note Stellaris seems to be missing mechs.

Machine Empires get mech assault armies. If I remember right, they are the best buildable armies in the game.

rocketrobot
Jul 11, 2003

Star Man posted:

I started playing the vanilla campaign again and I think I spent five turns with four mechs trying to kill the world's toughest Firestarter. Even knocked down it just would not die.

They can be harder to neuter than a spider sometimes.

Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow

rocketrobot posted:

They can be harder to neuter than a spider sometimes.

It's like I spend three turns just breaking limbs or components, but that last leg or center torso is just impenetrable. I love it too that while I gather up parts for a Grasshopper, my Shadow Hawk runs all SRMs and a small laser, five jump jets, and maximum armor, and a Commando just somehow manages to rip its arm off.

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World
I put two of the +++ arm mods that only weigh 2 tons and each add +60 melee damage to my Battlemaster and I think I'm in love. :killdozer:

The Banshee 3M is a somewhat better pure puncher, but is utterly worthless at anything else because its free tonnage at 95 tons is worse than a 65 tonner haha.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

Star Man posted:

It's like I spend three turns just breaking limbs or components, but that last leg or center torso is just impenetrable. I love it too that while I gather up parts for a Grasshopper, my Shadow Hawk runs all SRMs and a small laser, five jump jets, and maximum armor, and a Commando just somehow manages to rip its arm off.

Commandos are little shitkickers, I love them

Organ Fiend
May 21, 2007

custom title

sean10mm posted:

I put two of the +++ arm mods that only weigh 2 tons and each add +60 melee damage to my Battlemaster and I think I'm in love. :killdozer:

The Banshee 3M is a somewhat better pure puncher, but is utterly worthless at anything else because its free tonnage at 95 tons is worse than a 65 tonner haha.

Fill it up with ML++s and MGs, add those arm mods and put a pilot in it with pilot 1, guts 2.

EDIT: it doesn't need JJs. Just sprint around the map and then punch a hole through a mech or precision strike through the back armor.

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

Star Man posted:

I started playing the vanilla campaign again and I think I spent five turns with four mechs trying to kill the world's toughest Firestarter. Even knocked down it just would not die.

I hate Firestarters, they might be the most dangerous enemy mech relative to what you have when you encounter them. Those evasion pips are a bitch and getting overheated by one is really brutal, and of course they always make a beeline right for you. Oh and of course they jump, just for that extra bit of "gently caress you".

Meanwhile if you get a Firestarter it's not even worth it to run up and douse an AI mech in flames :v:

Horace Kinch
Aug 15, 2007

In the early game salvaging Firestarters are always my priority since they're 35 tons and make decent laserboats. I always keep at least one with flamers on standby because once I start encountering mediums there's usually a HBK 4P in need of a good cooking.

Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow
They seem like they'd be decent on a desert, space, or martian map.

But I'm sure I'll be told why they're not.

Stravag
Jun 7, 2009

4 flamers isnt enough with having an ammo capacity. Mine get 10 shots and i dont mount fewer than 6 ever if i mount any

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

Star Man posted:

They seem like they'd be decent on a desert, space, or martian map.

But I'm sure I'll be told why they're not.

Depends on the loadout. SL laservom firestarter is going to cook. MG firestarter is going to wreck poo poo.

Radio Free Kobold
Aug 11, 2012

"Federal regulations mandate that at least 30% of our content must promote Reptilian or Draconic culture. This is DJ Scratch N' Sniff with the latest mermaid screeching on KBLD..."




I don't know what that guy is talking about. The Firestarter is the primo light mech and if you can get one early on it'll last you all the way until you're fielding majority-heavy lances. In a light lance it's your main battle mech, while in a medium or heavy lance it's your scout/flanker/backstabber. In my first game I wound up replacing the Firestarter's role with a jumpy, punchy, master-tactician Shadowhawk once I was fielding all heavies (Black Knight :allears:) and a Grasshopper when I was fielding Assaults. Even then, I mostly thought of the Grasshopper as "Two firestarters in a trenchcoat, standing on top of each other"

Radio Free Kobold fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Jun 3, 2019

I R SMART LIKE ROCK
Mar 10, 2003

I just want a hug.

Fun Shoe

Cyrano4747 posted:

Depends on the loadout. SL laservom firestarter is going to cook. MG firestarter is going to wreck poo poo.

I go with 2x ML / 2x SL / 4x MG with a ton of ammo for 10 rounds of shots. Lets you run hot or cool depending on the situation

Taerkar
Dec 7, 2002

kind of into it, really

Radio Free Kobold posted:

Even then, I mostly thought of the Grasshopper as "Two firestarters in a trenchcoat, standing on top of each other"

He knows

Burn Him

rocketrobot
Jul 11, 2003

16 hours to release? But yesterday at this time is said 18 hours. loving time warps.

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Gwaihir
Dec 8, 2009
Hair Elf
I loving love MG boats in XLRP. Between the different ammo types available, and the different +/++/+++ MGs, and the ability to turn on burst mode (double the number of shots in exchange for worse accuracy and lots of heat gen), they're just super loving nasty and flexible.

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