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bornbytheriver posted:Could any of you good folks ID this crowd. I recognize the slimy Shapiro, who are the rest of them? What? You don't recognize the members of the Intellectual Dark Web?
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Feinne posted:What I've heard is the guy who directed that episode was just racist as poo poo and kind of went off the reservation making it Lol phrasing
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Feinne posted:What I've heard is the guy who directed that episode was just racist as poo poo and kind of went off the reservation making it, that the script was just 'they go to a planet that has poo poo they need but whoops they fall afoul of a plot by the leader to off his wife' which would have been fine without the trappings of the actual episode. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katharyn_Powers quote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_Honor_(Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation) She uh... yeah.
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Feinne posted:What I've heard is the guy who directed that episode was just racist as poo poo and kind of went off the reservation making it, that the script was just 'they go to a planet that has poo poo they need but whoops they fall afoul of a plot by the leader to off his wife' which would have been fine without the trappings of the actual episode. The script read described the planet's inhabitants/culture as "Tribal" and the director was pretty racist and just went nuts. He never directed for them again and they even replaced him halfway through filming but the budget of TNG was such they couldn't just scrap the episode or redo the whole thing. It's real bad though
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Mendrian posted:So by this argument it's legal to start a massive forest fire. If this holds true, I’d like to start a massive tire burning company in public grounds surrounding conservative towns, and offer to take care of heavy metal chemicals with convenient disposal in their local watershed and creeks. Think of all the money I’ll be saving, and the productivity gains!
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Ripoff posted:If this holds true, I’d like to start a massive tire burning company in public grounds surrounding conservative towns, and offer to take care of heavy metal chemicals with convenient disposal in their local watershed and creeks. It looks like you'll have to come up with a method of pollution that isn't covered by any existing law. If you can dodge all of those, there is no catchall that outlaws all pollution in general, so you should be in the clear. Next on the agenda, how do we stop that annoying do-gooder Captain Planet...
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Ripoff posted:If this holds true, I’d like to start a massive tire burning company in public grounds surrounding conservative towns, and offer to take care of heavy metal chemicals with convenient disposal in their local watershed and creeks. While your example is hilarious, I think it would actually be prohibitive under current law. Which is hilarious because it establishes how stupid the current laws are; they are designed to address specific expressions of bad environmental policy and even though everybody knows what the spirit is behind those laws, they absolutely will not extrapolate to include those things because god forbid.
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Jun 6, 2019 21:51
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:What the gently caress Whelp, when fascism is seizing control of the country it seems only natural that eugenics would make a comeback. It starts with child molesters because hey who can disagree with castrating child molesters. But that's not where it'll stay naturally. There's a whole bunch of people in this country the right wing would love to see prevented from having children.
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friendbot2000 posted:Is this that lawsuit from the schoolkids over holding the Land in trust? I think it's from Juliana v US lawsuit in Oregon where the kids are suing the government for health risks related to climate change. This is from the filing, "Even if Plaintiffs could satisfy those threshold requirements, their Fifth Amendment claims fail as a matter of law because there is no fundamental constitutional right to a “stable climate system,”" source: http://blogs2.law.columbia.edu/climate-change-litigation/wp-content/uploads/sites/16/case-documents/2019/20190201_docket-18-36082_brief.pdf update: interesting write up about it from NEJM https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp1905504 Toobly fucked around with this message at 22:01 on Jun 6, 2019 |
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Carew posted:looks like jordan peterson, sam harris, dave rubin? don't know who the last guy is Eric Weinstein
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Prester Jane posted:There's a whole bunch of people in this country the right wing would love to see prevented from having children. They already publicly joke about this all the time, but privately (or when they think they are only talking to their own audience) this is often a topic of very serious discussion.
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Rigel posted:They already publicly joke about this all the time, but privately (or when they think they are only talking to their own audience) this is often a topic of very serious discussion. See also "IQ test required to vote"
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:What the gently caress This is nothing new, IIRC multiple states have had chemical castration on the books for awhile now. Looks like 9 states. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_castration#United_States
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Rigel posted:They already publicly joke about this all the time, but privately (or when they think they are only talking to their own audience) this is often a topic of very serious discussion. Yeah, among the more outspoken conservative circles they're very much into the idea of chemical (or physical) castration of sexual predators. But when they say that they're including trans people and gay men. There was a recent uproar about wanting to chemically sterilize trans people before they underwent corrective surgery as a prerequisite to getting that (or any) therapy. TL;DR their ideas sound bad but are actually worse.
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Jun 6, 2019 22:00
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Data Graham posted:See also "IQ test required to vote" I still think its damned near a miracle that Amendment 4 in Florida passed by the required 60% supermajority.
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There Bias Two posted:This is nothing new, IIRC multiple states have had chemical castration on the books for awhile now. And the laws have not been thrown out? Do they actually do castration in US? Edit: looks like FDA has never approved it so its not been done
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:What the gently caress Cruel and unusual punishment much? Not siding with child molesters here, but they're already put on a list for life after serving their time and often get zoned out of housing and jobs, sometimes ending up homeless in encampments with other sex offenders on the outskirts of towns or stacked up on top of one another in whatever housing they can find. Or they end up living illegally and risk getting thrown back in prison for a crime unrelated to their initial offense. We're not talking the ones that intentionally move in next to elementary schools here. Maybe a system of comprehensive and understanding mental healthcare for people that struggle with abnormal sexual deviance would be a better solution than concentrating sex criminals and promoting recidivism? Lol nope, let's just castrate em'. I'm sure that won't have any negative mental health consequences for an already vulnerable population. gently caress sex crime of every kind, as if I need to say that. But there's a big need for an adjustment in the way we handle these people and the system we've created around them. Zisky fucked around with this message at 22:05 on Jun 6, 2019 |
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Reminder that forced castration laws probably violate the federal constitution. If Republicans keep winning presidential elections though, they may be able to appoint a majority of justices who don’t really believe in substantive due process. In that event, we may once again have to consider if “three generations of imbeciles are enough.” But I guess it doesn’t matter because Dems bad. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:And the laws have not been thrown out? Do they actually do castration in US? If I recall correctly from my 14th amendment class, the state technically still has the authority to order sterilizations. Buck v Bell, I think? Yep: https://www.oyez.org/cases/1900-1940/274us200 Statutes have been repealed in places but that’s still good law, alarmingly.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:And the laws have not been thrown out? Do they actually do castration in US? Ummm.....yeah. quote:Number of victims
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:And the laws have not been thrown out? Do they actually do castration in US? I can't find a good source for this, but there are places that seem to offer the option to get chemically or physically castrated in return for a lower sentence. Everything I'm searching just keeps bringing back the same 3 articles. I'm curious if/how much it still happens. My gut says the FDA objection to it means that it can't be forced onto someone, but state actors could "persuade" someone to "volunteer" to the procedure. But I may just be being cynical.
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Ogmius815 posted:Reminder that forced castration laws currently violate the federal constitution. If Republicans keep winning presidential elections though, they may be able to appoint a majority of justices who don’t really believe in substantive due process. In that event, we may once again have to consider if “three generations of imbeciles are enough.” Hey remember when the Democrats fought to maintain control of the Supreme Court because it's so important? Oh yeah, observable reality directly contradicts your argument here. I'm sorry that criticism of your leaders makes you feel insecure- but these leaders are aren't going to do anything except lead us all off a cliff. They prove it over and over and over again.
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Yeah, after a lot of searching, some people argue that it may violate the 8th amendment, but the SCOTUS has never directly confronted castration, so it seems to be fine under the constitution right now. edit: at least the court has never ruled on the 8th amendment argument, apparently there's a very old 14th amendment case. Rigel fucked around with this message at 22:13 on Jun 6, 2019 |
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Jun 6, 2019 22:11
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Two truths to counter two lies: Forced sterilization is legal and Dems are good
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Calibanibal posted:Two truths to counter two lies: Come on. You can do better.
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Calibanibal posted:Two truths to counter two lies: If I ever find myself in a bizarre universe where my destiny is controlled by the messages in magic fortune cookies- I hope Calivanibsl is the magic genie writing the fortune cookie messages.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2019/06/06/fcc-allows-att-verizon-other-carriers-block-more-suspected-robocallsquote:The FCC allows AT&T, Verizon and other carriers to block more suspected robocalls lol they're going to start charging all their customers to 'block' robocalls without warning
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Rex-Goliath posted:https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2019/06/06/fcc-allows-att-verizon-other-carriers-block-more-suspected-robocalls I was reading that, got to that line about it not being stipulated it had to be free, and went, "oh. Yeah, there it is." Cause a problem and then charge to fix it. Costs always find a way to the consumer under a republican administration.
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bornbytheriver posted:Could any of you good folks ID this crowd. I recognize the slimy Shapiro, who are the rest of them? left to right we got jordan peterson, eric weinstein (managing director at thiel capital), ben shapiro, dave "the rube" rubin, joe rogan, sam harris
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https://twitter.com/drvox/status/1136737241810624513 Disease is spreading through the overcrowded concentration camps. Who could have ever predicted this would happen?
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Ogmius815 posted:Reminder that forced castration laws probably violate the federal constitution. If Republicans keep winning presidential elections though, they may be able to appoint a majority of justices who don’t really believe in substantive due process. In that event, we may once again have to consider if “three generations of imbeciles are enough.” fun trivia: the US lead the world in forced castrations, sterilizations, and other eugenic techniques, and noted conservative hellhole California lead America in their use before that mean Mr. Hitler took all the shine off the idea.
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Rex-Goliath posted:https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2019/06/06/fcc-allows-att-verizon-other-carriers-block-more-suspected-robocalls At first, I couldn't believe that Ajit Pai, massive piece of poo poo that he is, had done something nominally good. then I saw he made sure they could profit from it. Of course.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:What the gently caress I mean look at the comments straight up calling for instant death penalty for people even accused of it. Great way to get pedos into therapy: tell them they will get their balls destroyed if they even bring it up.
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Prester Jane posted:Whelp, when fascism is seizing control of the country it seems only natural that eugenics would make a comeback. You rang? https://www.reddit.com/r/unpopularopinion/comments/bxesqn/babies_born_with_severe_mental_disabilities/
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haveblue posted:When all the humans are dead, there will be nothing but Law, and the universe will be all the more perfect for it. 6 Juggernaut Star, is that you?
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Feinne posted:What I've heard is the guy who directed that episode was just racist as poo poo and kind of went off the reservation making it, that the script was just 'they go to a planet that has poo poo they need but whoops they fall afoul of a plot by the leader to off his wife' which would have been fine without the trappings of the actual episode. I think also you have to remember that B5 takes its arching story from LoTR, hence you get Tolkein's savior parable filtered in, plus hiring that would of course want a female lead. I do give credit for doing a few things: Highlighting a rising homegrown fascist dtate, where humanity in fact is not uniformly the good guys. Having a LGBTQ relationship that isn't hammered into your face or intensely sexualized. Having excellent nonhuman characters with story arcs. I think especially now the creeping fascist stuff feels far more relevant now than it ever did in the 90s.
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