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oliwan: Jul 20, 2005; by Nyc_Tattoo

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Here is a rundown of some of the typical grocery stores in Germany, and what you can expect from each of them.

Discounters (Lidl, Netto, Aldi): Don’t sniff at discount grocery stores; most people shop here. You can complete your shopping list with items at their lowest price. Fruits and veggies don’t always look their best, the aisles are crowded, presentation is nil and customer service can fall to a new low, but the first time you make it through a Lidl visit without getting impossibly frustrated you have taken a positive step towards integration. Watch for special promotions like “America Week” where Americanesque items (from a brand bizarrely named “McEnnedy’s”) are sold.

Major Grocery Stores (Real, Rewe, Edeka, Kaufland): These grocery chains most resemble something you’d find in the States or the UK. They are usually large and have (almost) everything you want. Some chains, like Real (ray-all), sell everything from groceries to bicycles to underpants. While the selection is much greater than at the discounters, it is still more limited than

This is a feel that every immigrant in Germany knows

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# ? Jun 8, 2024 08:30

suck my woke dick: Oct 10, 2012; I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!

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oliwan posted:

Rewe and Edeka approach how it is to do groceries in the developed world most closely I find, depends on the individual store a bit

they're style-over-substance stores for bougie trash

# ? Jun 9, 2019 17:10

oliwan: Jul 20, 2005; by Nyc_Tattoo

Smirr posted:

Rewes in Berlin. I double-dog dare you to come here and use one of the Konsum-rear end 30 m² abominations with Spätipreisen called "Rewe City", and still have that impression. More like.......... Rewe lovely

Yeah, quite a few "Rewe City" have popped up here as well actually, primarily around Friedrichstraße and the rest of Mitte, and their beer is more expensive than in spätis lol

# ? Jun 9, 2019 17:11

Randler: Jan 3, 2013; ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS

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# ? Jun 9, 2019 17:12

Simply Simon: Nov 6, 2010; 📡scanning🛰️ for good game 🎮design🦔🦔🦔

What the gently caress are you guys talking about, every store is literally exactly the same

Also what is that mention of "service", a grocery store doesn't have nor need service, you pick the poo poo you want and pay for it. The service is someone using the beep machine correctly and handing over Wechselgeld.

# ? Jun 9, 2019 17:13

oliwan: Jul 20, 2005; by Nyc_Tattoo

suck my woke dick posted:

they're style-over-substance stores for bougie trash

There's a Netto opposite an Edeka where I live, and I used to always go to Netto because I thought it was cheaper. I was wrong. I've been comparing prices for two years now, and you can shop for the same price at Edeka if you stay with off-brand produce, and spare yourself the trip to Netto.

# ? Jun 9, 2019 17:16

Healbot: Jul 7, 2006; very very very fucjable
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That is one expensive Netto.

# ? Jun 9, 2019 17:18

Perestroika: Apr 8, 2010

I like shopping at our tiny Edeka :shobon:

. I haven't actually noticed a major price difference compared to the Penny next door for most of the stuff I usually get, and the local Lidl is so drat full all the time (despite being huge) that it just takes loving forever to get anything.

# ? Jun 9, 2019 17:39

suck my woke dick: Oct 10, 2012; I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!

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also lol even the shittiest undersized German discounter is ca. 300% better than alleged premium grocery stores in the UK

# ? Jun 9, 2019 17:50

Randler: Jan 3, 2013; ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS

Bei unseren amerikanischen Freunden gibt es �brigens ein gewisses Misstrauen gegen die US-Aldim�rkte, weil es dem Personal dort erlaubt ist beim Kassieren zu sitzen.

# ? Jun 9, 2019 17:55

suck my woke dick: Oct 10, 2012; I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!

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Randler posted:

Bei unseren amerikanischen Freunden gibt es �brigens ein gewisses Misstrauen gegen die US-Aldim�rkte, weil es dem Personal dort erlaubt ist beim Kassieren zu sitzen.

Amerikaner haben ein ungesundes Verh�ltnis zur Arbeit, Nachrichten um 11.

# ? Jun 9, 2019 17:56

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Perestroika posted:

I like shopping at our tiny Edeka . I haven't actually noticed a major price difference compared to the Penny next door for most of the stuff I usually get, and the local Lidl is so drat full all the time (despite being huge) that it just takes loving forever to get anything.

yeah I have a small but ownage Edeka in Hummelsb�ttel that isn't like Randler's Hellmarkt

# ? Jun 9, 2019 18:00

Randler: Jan 3, 2013; ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS

Ich habe mal geh�rt, dass der Hass der Amerikaner gegen die Armen und Fremden so gro� ist, dass man ihnen in Deutschland �berhaupt kein Visum mehr ausstellt, sondern ihnen einfach ein SPD-Parteibuch in die Hand dr�ckt.

# ? Jun 9, 2019 18:01

suck my woke dick: Oct 10, 2012; I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!

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Randler posted:

Ich habe mal geh�rt, dass der Hass der Amerikaner gegen die Armen und Fremden so gro� ist, dass man ihnen in Deutschland �berhaupt kein Visum mehr ausstellt, sondern ihnen einfach ein SPD-Parteibuch in die Hand dr�ckt.

Welches die Amerikaner dann angeekelt wegwerfen, da sie glauben, die SPD w�re noch in irgendeiner Form sozialistisch.

# ? Jun 9, 2019 18:15

Mano: Jul 11, 2012

Randler posted:

Aktuell liege ich in Deutschland, Ba-W�, bei 55.000?, was rund 2.750 Euro Netto sind (GKV Metzinger BKK ohne Zusatzbeitrag, keine Kirchensteuer).

Nun habe ich ein Jobangebot aus der Schweiz, wo ich rund 6.000 CHF netto verdienen w�rde. Ich frage mich, ob es m�glich ist, von 3,000 CHF als Single normal leben zu k�nnen.

Normal Leben hei�t f�r mich:

1 mal im Jahr f�r 10-14 Tage sch�nen Urlaub (Mittelmeer, Atlantik, rund 1000EURO)
3-4 mal im Jahr St�dtetrip (Europa, 200-300 Euro je Trip)
Eine halbwegs vern�nftige Wohnung (40 - 50 qm reichen mir eigentlich, in Schaffhausen, Z�rich Umland, Thurgau ist das wohl m�glich)
Mein Auto unterhalten (abbezahlt aber 3,8 Liter V6 will betankt und versichert werden)
Sch�ne Klamotten (Lacoste, Hilfiger wobei immer und nur im Sale bei diveresen einschl�gigen Online Shops)
Lebenmittel kaufe ich gerne bei Discountern
Was ich nicht brauche sind st�ndige Restaurant oder Kino Besuche und sonstige (in meinen Augen) Geldverschwendung

In Deutschland schaffe ich das mit 2,750 netto bzw. spare je nach Monat 500-1000 Euro.

Ich frage mich ob ich das in der Schweiz mit 3,000 CHF (zur Zeit rund 2,700 Euro) auch schaffen w�rde.
Wenn ja, dann k�nnte ich 3,000 CHF pro Monat sparen, was ja 2,700 Euro sind (Stand 01/2016). Das w�rde ja hei�en, ich k�nnte in der Schweiz so viel Geld monatlich zur�ck legen, wie ich in Deutschland �berhaupt verdiene.

Ich bin regelm�ssig in der Schweiz und wei� das es sehr nette Schweizer gibt aber eben auch solche, die Deutsche regelrecht hassen. Ich wei� nicht, ob ich mir das mein Leben lang geben will. Auf der anderen Seite reizt mich der Gedanke, in 5 Jahren rund 200,000 CHF ansparen zu k�nnen.. wenn ich dann nach Ba-W� zur�ck komme kauf ich mir ne 3 Zimmer Wohnung aus der Porto Kasse (Stuggi Innenstadt mal ausgenommen aber die mag ich eh nicht).

PS Einkaufen w�rde ich nicht in der teuren Schweiz sondern in Deutschland und mir dann sch�n die M�rchensteuer erstatten lassen.

Ich frage mich grade echt nur wo der Haken ist.. kann doch nicht sein dass man in der CH tats�chlich netto doppelt soviel hat?!

well ...
depends what exactly you consider netto and how you compare it to DE. W.g. is the Nettolohn 12 times or 13 or ? Also you need to pay Krankenkasse yourself (~300CHF/month, more if older). Also taxes aren't payed yet, but no idea how exactly the tax stuff works for foreigners.

Importing all your food/other stuff from DE can be a bit of a chore, you're only allowed 300CHF a day!
Mindestlohn or Armutsgrenze or so is ~4000CHF/month but I think that's brutto.
You can probably find out what the car would cost for canton and insurance (try comparis). Remember to get cost for parkplatz.
Most stuff is also more expensive so as soon as you need stuff from CH your money will go down.
Going to holidays from Switzerland is more expensive than going from DE.

Putting back 1500-2000 should be possible, 3000 if you want to do a really low-level living.
6500CHF is certainly a good lohn, but I somehow doubt you get rich with it. What exactly are you doing?

# ? Jun 9, 2019 18:16

Randler: Jan 3, 2013; ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS

suck my woke dick posted:

Welches die Amerikaner dann angeekelt wegwerfen, da sie glauben, die SPD w�re noch in irgendeiner Form sozialistisch.

Gerade dieser Irrglaube zeichnet ja die verbleibenden Sarrazindemokraten aus.

# ? Jun 9, 2019 18:24

SavageGentleman: Feb 28, 2010; When she finds love may it always stay true.
This I beg for the second wish I made too.; Fallen Rib

Randler posted:

Ich konnte jetzt gerade nicht die Bilder von der Edeka-Mozarella-Bar wiederfinden, aber daf�r habe ich beim Suchen den Artikel �ber die Leute gefunden, die dort einkaufen.

"Robert Neunkirch, ein Spitzenverdiener in einem guten Vorort von Frankfurt, bekommt seit seiner letzten Gehaltserh�hung sogar noch mehr, rund 7000 Euro, bei 120.000 Euro brutto Jahreseinkommen.
[...]
Das Paradoxe, das Neunkirch nachts schlecht schlafen l�sst, ist, dass er reich ist, sich aber nicht so f�hlt.
[...]
Mit dem ern�chternden Gef�hl, trotz einer makellosen Berufskarriere niemals �ber ein m�hevolles Mittelschichtsdasein hinauskommen zu k�nnen, ist er vermutlich nicht allein. Es sind Hunderttausende, die wegen ihres Einkommens nur statistisch zur Oberschicht geh�ren. Es ist der Facharbeiter in der Chemiewirtschaft oder der Personalchef in einem IT-Unternehmen, es sind auch Unternehmensberater und Ingenieure. Warum sie nicht lauter protestieren? Vielleicht, weil der Fiskalpatriotismus in Deutschland Tradition hat. Man zahlt eben seine Steuern. Und weil, zweitens, die Reichen keinen besonders guten Ruf haben und sich kaum jemand gern als Reicher ins Rampenlicht stellen mag."

FAZ, baby! Wo ist mein Guillotinensmilie?!

# ? Jun 9, 2019 19:02

Mithaldu: Sep 25, 2007; Let's cuddle.

Mag sein dass das bei mir eben am Osten liegt, aber der Edeka neben dem ich aufgewachsen bin ist so vielleicht 2% unterschiedlich zum Penny neben dem ich in Hannover gewohnt hab.

# ? Jun 9, 2019 19:11

Smirr: Jun 28, 2012

SavageGentleman posted:

Wo ist mein Guillotinensmilie?!

# ? Jun 9, 2019 19:21

Duzzy Funlop: Jan 13, 2010; Hi there, would you like to try some spicy products?

Outside of all the pricing-strategy issues and the related problems of discounters, those places are among the most uplifting places to remind me that there are some redeemable features to Bayern. The one thing you'll never see in a city-close discounter is your average AfD-w�hling racist bayerisch shitlord.
In the two years I've lived in Munich, I have yet to experience a single bad encounter with people of non-German ancestry.

You've got a friendly Polish-German cashier that tells you it's not a big deal that you didn't weigh your produce on the Kundenwaage, you've got a Romanian-German employee that happily directs you to the frozen Gem�se-section because the Beyond-Meat burger patties aren't right next to the Hackfleisch, and there's a friendly Turkish-German person telling you the next load of Brezn is just a minute shy of coming out of the industrial Hei�luftofen when you're looking at the empty Brezn-Schacht.

Hell, some of the loving best interactions I've had in this stupid city have been at discounters. When I was still on crutches after my osteotomy, there was a Lithuanian family father who not just let me vor in the Schlange, but helped me hoist my groceries onto the F�rderband. After I paid, he offered to help me carry my purchases to the car, and his kids were scrambling to move around my Medium Sprudel sixpacks like it was a competition, and I even got to awkwardly joke about a Lithuanian nursery rhyme that I knew when we were at my car. (Because "Tick and tock goes the clock" is a very reasonable thing to sing when you're not doing a German nursery rhyme about certain death as a consequence of disobedience).

As of a week ago, I've also �berbr�cked a grand total of two folks in a loving Lidl parking lot in Berg am Laim and Ramersdorf. I can't wait for racist Bayern to finally be bred out of existence.

# ? Jun 9, 2019 19:45

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Simply Simon posted:

What the gently caress are you guys talking about, every store is literally exactly the same

Also what is that mention of "service", a grocery store doesn't have nor need service, you pick the poo poo you want and pay for it. The service is someone using the beep machine correctly and handing over Wechselgeld.

Yeah, whenever this thread descents into arguing about grocery stores in Germany, I start to panic and go check if my stores of weapons and ammunition are ready, because we're obviously being invaded by aliens

# ? Jun 9, 2019 20:08

GABA ghoul: Oct 29, 2011

Edeka "gut& günstig" mostly price matches ALDI& LIDL. They even advertise it with "Discounter billig".

Duzzy Funlop posted:

Outside of all the pricing-strategy issues and the related problems of discounters, those places are among the most uplifting places to remind me that there are some redeemable features to Bayern. The one thing you'll never see in a city-close discounter is your average AfD-wähling racist bayerisch shitlord.
In the two years I've lived in Munich, I have yet to experience a single bad encounter with people of non-German ancestry.

You've got a friendly Polish-German cashier that tells you it's not a big deal that you didn't weigh your produce on the Kundenwaage, you've got a Romanian-German employee that happily directs you to the frozen Gemüse-section because the Beyond-Meat burger patties aren't right next to the Hackfleisch, and there's a friendly Turkish-German person telling you the next load of Brezn is just a minute shy of coming out of the industrial Heißluftofen when you're looking at the empty Brezn-Schacht.

Hell, some of the loving best interactions I've had in this stupid city have been at discounters. When I was still on crutches after my osteotomy, there was a Lithuanian family father who not just let me vor in the Schlange, but helped me hoist my groceries onto the Förderband. After I paid, he offered to help me carry my purchases to the car, and his kids were scrambling to move around my Medium Sprudel sixpacks like it was a competition, and I even got to awkwardly joke about a Lithuanian nursery rhyme that I knew when we were at my car. (Because "Tick and tock goes the clock" is a very reasonable thing to sing when you're not doing a German nursery rhyme about certain death as a consequence of disobedience).

As of a week ago, I've also überbrücked a grand total of two folks in a loving Lidl parking lot in Berg am Laim and Ramersdorf. I can't wait for racist Bayern to finally be bred out of existence.

Hi, you are basically me. I absolutely hate shopping at edeka and rewe because of the self-important condescending bougie scum. I would even pay extra money to shop around normal people at LIDL& ALDI. They should take money for Eintritt and sell it as a pleasant shopping experience

Mano posted:

well ...
depends what exactly you consider netto and how you compare it to DE. W.g. is the Nettolohn 12 times or 13 or ? Also you need to pay Krankenkasse yourself (~300CHF/month, more if older). Also taxes aren't payed yet, but no idea how exactly the tax stuff works for foreigners.

Importing all your food/other stuff from DE can be a bit of a chore, you're only allowed 300CHF a day!
Mindestlohn or Armutsgrenze or so is ~4000CHF/month but I think that's brutto.
You can probably find out what the car would cost for canton and insurance (try comparis). Remember to get cost for parkplatz.
Most stuff is also more expensive so as soon as you need stuff from CH your money will go down.
Going to holidays from Switzerland is more expensive than going from DE.

Putting back 1500-2000 should be possible, 3000 if you want to do a really low-level living.
6500CHF is certainly a good lohn, but I somehow doubt you get rich with it. What exactly are you doing?

The tell is in the first line. Randler would never outkick out of the Catholic church

# ? Jun 9, 2019 20:24

elbkaida: Jan 13, 2008; Look!

Little throwback to the 90s, had this song stuck in my head earlier and since Austrians and Koks have been a recent topic I thought I'd post for you guys to enjoy as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0m7bHdcq87o

# ? Jun 9, 2019 20:45

oliwan: Jul 20, 2005; by Nyc_Tattoo

If you want to shop with bougie scum in Berlin, you go to one of the bio supermarkets, of which there are roughly the same as of the edekas, I'd say.

# ? Jun 9, 2019 20:47

frankenfreak: Feb 16, 2007; I SCORED 85% ON A QUIZ ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT RAW AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS LOUSY TEXT

#bastionboogerbrigade

suck my woke dick posted:

Nachrichten um 11.

Wenn Du das schon eindeutscht, dann gef�lligst ordentlich als "Nachrichten um 20:15"!

# ? Jun 9, 2019 20:58

pidan: Nov 6, 2012

We have a really trashy rewe near my house, but I got so used to buying at rewe when I lived in the hellhole with only one grocery store, that I keep going there despite it being aldi levels of grimy and crowded.

Glad to be back in a city tbh

# ? Jun 9, 2019 22:14

aphid_licker: Jan 7, 2009

Lightly cursed Image

https://twitter.com/jiselaaah/status/1137396384766791680

# ? Jun 9, 2019 22:28

Mithaldu: Sep 25, 2007; Let's cuddle.

^^^
au wei

Duzzy Funlop posted:

Outside of all the pricing-strategy issues and the related problems of discounters, those places are among the most uplifting places to remind me that there are some redeemable features to Bayern. The one thing you'll never see in a city-close discounter is your average AfD-w�hling racist bayerisch shitlord.
In the two years I've lived in Munich, I have yet to experience a single bad encounter with people of non-German ancestry.

You've got a friendly Polish-German cashier that tells you it's not a big deal that you didn't weigh your produce on the Kundenwaage, you've got a Romanian-German employee that happily directs you to the frozen Gem�se-section because the Beyond-Meat burger patties aren't right next to the Hackfleisch, and there's a friendly Turkish-German person telling you the next load of Brezn is just a minute shy of coming out of the industrial Hei�luftofen when you're looking at the empty Brezn-Schacht.

Hell, some of the loving best interactions I've had in this stupid city have been at discounters. When I was still on crutches after my osteotomy, there was a Lithuanian family father who not just let me vor in the Schlange, but helped me hoist my groceries onto the F�rderband. After I paid, he offered to help me carry my purchases to the car, and his kids were scrambling to move around my Medium Sprudel sixpacks like it was a competition, and I even got to awkwardly joke about a Lithuanian nursery rhyme that I knew when we were at my car. (Because "Tick and tock goes the clock" is a very reasonable thing to sing when you're not doing a German nursery rhyme about certain death as a consequence of disobedience).

As of a week ago, I've also �berbr�cked a grand total of two folks in a loving Lidl parking lot in Berg am Laim and Ramersdorf. I can't wait for racist Bayern to finally be bred out of existence.

'd so hard about this post

# ? Jun 9, 2019 23:29

Mithaldu: Sep 25, 2007; Let's cuddle.

https://twitter.com/RKiesewetter/status/1137799720829628417

# ? Jun 10, 2019 00:19

Smirr: Jun 28, 2012

Mithaldu posted:

https://twitter.com/RKiesewetter/status/1137799720829628417

Roderich Kiesewetter

# ? Jun 10, 2019 02:24

Ritznit: Dec 19, 2012; I'm crackers for cheese.; Ultra Carp

Kiesewetter hie� auch dieser aufdringliche Vertreter der in ein paar Tim & Struppis auftaucht.

# ? Jun 10, 2019 03:16

Zwille: Aug 18, 2006; * _{For the Ghost Who Walks Funny}

frankenfreak posted:

Wenn Du das schon eindeutscht, dann gef�lligst ordentlich als "Nachrichten um 20:15"!

lol how do you gently caress this up?

# ? Jun 10, 2019 06:36

My Lovely Horse: Aug 21, 2010

frankenfreak posted:

Wenn Du das schon eindeutscht, dann gef�lligst ordentlich als "Nachrichten um 20:15"!

Brennpunkt!

# ? Jun 10, 2019 07:54

Wengy: Feb 6, 2008

Opferwurst posted:

Deutsche sind die Polen der Schweiz bzw. Die Ukrainer der Polen, die wiederum die Polen der Deutschen sind

Though I've only �berflogen that reprehensible guillotine-Opfer copypasta Randler posted, I think they're not too far off - if they were to live very sparsam as a single in a lovely canton, they might actually be able to save 3k out of 6k netto. Question is why anyone would do that to themselves. Also lmao that high-powered German Wiwi-Forum careerists get excited about a 6k netto salary in Switzerland. Don't get me wrong, that's an objectively good salary and I've only ever made that sum or more than that for very short periods of time, but it's really not an exceptional salary, especially in the kind of profession I'd imagine that Unsympath is pursuing.

Wengy fucked around with this message at 08:39 on Jun 10, 2019

# ? Jun 10, 2019 08:33

Duzzy Funlop: Jan 13, 2010; Hi there, would you like to try some spicy products?

Mithaldu posted:

https://twitter.com/RKiesewetter/status/1137799720829628417

We live in a time where I'm shocked by things actually mattering once in a blue moon.

# ? Jun 10, 2019 10:48

Mithaldu: Sep 25, 2007; Let's cuddle.

https://twitter.com/altenbockum/status/1137964880336760832

Ich kann echt und konkret nicht entscheiden ob die wirklich so bescheuert waren und das nicht gepr�ft haben, oder ob das gezielt war um Aufruhr zu erzeugen, oder ob beides.

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