|
Johnny Joestar posted:i'm kind of amazed terraria has gone on this long Best value in video games.
|
#
?
Jun 11, 2019 02:12
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 26, 2024 16:33 |
|
|
I'm probably gonna die to Moon Lord on master a whole bunch. Also hyped for the eventual 1.4 release when it comes out.
|
|
#
?
Jun 11, 2019 02:49
|
|
|
The thing that intrigues me the most isn't in the trailer, but was part of the presentation: they called this the penultimate update, indicating they're planning a 1.5 after this.
|
|
#
?
Jun 11, 2019 03:42
|
|
|
Nighthand posted:The thing that intrigues me the most isn't in the trailer, but was part of the presentation: they called this the penultimate update, indicating they're planning a 1.5 after this. That has been officially explained as the guy not knowing what penultimate actually meant. They aren't planning more content updates anymore.
|
|
#
?
Jun 11, 2019 08:23
|
|
|
Didn't they also say they weren't planning anything else after 1.2 and 1.3? Though I suppose calling it Journey's End is pretty definitive.
|
|
#
?
Jun 11, 2019 18:41
|
|
|
Cat Mattress posted:That has been officially explained as the guy not knowing what penultimate actually meant. They aren't planning more content updates anymore. Really? That's amazing.
|
|
#
?
Jun 11, 2019 19:23
|
|
|
I think this really is the final update, apart from bug fixes and balance work. Game has been going for near 10 years with endless free content additions and QOL adds.
|
|
#
?
Jun 11, 2019 19:25
|
|
|
What's really crazy is that no one's managed to replicate the formula enough to stand out. Starbound is the worst, It Lurks Below is okay but is meant to be more of a dungeon crawler. Dig or die wasn't bad for a one man project, but it was aggressively mediocre. There are so many attempts but none of them can figure out what makes Terraria so good.
|
|
#
?
Jun 11, 2019 19:46
|
|
|
SynthesisAlpha posted:What's really crazy is that no one's managed to replicate the formula enough to stand out. Starbound is the worst, It Lurks Below is okay but is meant to be more of a dungeon crawler. Dig or die wasn't bad for a one man project, but it was aggressively mediocre. They're all copying Terraria is the problem. Everyone had their own 'what if terraria had 'x', oh let me make my own terraria game with my idea' Terraria looked like it was a 2d minecraft knockoff when it was actually it's own thing with cute 16 bit graphics.
|
|
#
?
Jun 11, 2019 20:06
|
|
|
Terraria was May 2011... and Minecraft was November 2011. I suppose Minecraft was a thing people knew and played before then back to 2009, but Terraria has always really felt like its own thing, and not just "dig game but 2D"
|
|
#
?
Jun 11, 2019 20:18
|
|
|
I thought Dig or Die was pretty good. Structures breaking if they don't have enough weight support made early challenges like crossing the chasm to the west fairly involved. Having all of it happen on one life (with saving allowed whenever) also forced you to be careful about making sure you can get out of any pit you dig yourself into. There's an underground lake about halfway down the map that requires some tricky architecture to escape from, so chances are you end up stuck underground for an extended period in the midgame until you can build your way back to the cavern layer.
|
|
#
?
Jun 11, 2019 20:20
|
|
|
To me terraria has always been Zelda 2 but moreso.
|
|
#
?
Jun 11, 2019 20:21
|
|
|
Part of what it has is a lot of absurd escalation and sheer quality and variety, It would take a lot of time and effort to get that feeling of progression that terraria has that makes just going around looking for items fun.
|
|
#
?
Jun 11, 2019 20:27
|
|
|
Nighthand posted:Didn't they also say they weren't planning anything else after 1.2 and 1.3? Though I suppose calling it Journey's End is pretty definitive. 1.4 has been on the docket since before the Switch version was announced.
|
|
#
?
Jun 11, 2019 21:10
|
|
Black August posted:Terraria was May 2011... and Minecraft was November 2011. I suppose Minecraft was a thing people knew and played before then back to 2009, but Terraria has always really felt like its own thing, and not just "dig game but 2D" Nah, Minecraft blew up way before the release and people were definitely comparing terraria to it when it was new. The friend who told me about it described it as “2D Minecraft” It definitely is its own thing and at 1.3 they’re almost incomparable but people will see extremely superficial similarities in games and act like they’re carbon copies
|
|
|
#
?
Jun 11, 2019 21:10
|
|
|
Even at launch it was pretty different, but that was the obvious surface level comparison.
|
|
#
?
Jun 11, 2019 21:22
|
|
|
Yeah Minecraft was definitely big before Terraria was even in development. It had sold over a million copies in January 2011 and that's when Redigit started on Terraria. And people definitely did call it "2D Minecraft" at the time, but that was a weak and basically wrong take then and it would be even more wrong now.
|
|
#
?
Jun 11, 2019 21:25
|
|
|
Zoig posted:Part of what it has is a lot of absurd escalation and sheer quality and variety, It would take a lot of time and effort to get that feeling of progression that terraria has that makes just going around looking for items fun. I think this is the big thing, going from plodding on foot and taking a full second to dig through a stone tile to flying into outer space in a single bound while instantly drilling out screen-sized holes is a sense of progression to make the most egregious Metroidvania blush.
|
|
#
?
Jun 11, 2019 21:32
|
|
|
Black August posted:Terraria was May 2011... and Minecraft was November 2011. I suppose Minecraft was a thing people knew and played before then back to 2009, but Terraria has always really felt like its own thing, and not just "dig game but 2D" This was back when development was going really fast, I guess. That pace seems almost surreal now.
|
|
#
?
Jun 11, 2019 21:38
|
|
|
Big Mad Drongo posted:I think this is the big thing, going from plodding on foot and taking a full second to dig through a stone tile to flying into outer space in a single bound while instantly drilling out screen-sized holes is a sense of progression to make the most egregious Metroidvania blush. And while shortswords are quickly forgotten, I've always appreciated the fact they start you out with one. Really sets the tone compared to just dumping you into an open field with your bare hands and/or a pickaxe equivalent. Where crafting your first wooden sword, is because it's convenient, rather than being entirely hosed without it. Even if I still really, really need to get around to sticking with the game long enough to see Hell after beating up giant bees. Section Z fucked around with this message at 22:58 on Jun 11, 2019 |
|
#
?
Jun 11, 2019 22:52
|
|
|
Section Z posted:Even if I still really, really need to get around to sticking with the game long enough to see Hell after beating up giant bees.
|
|
#
?
Jun 11, 2019 23:26
|
|
|
Yeah hell is essentially the end of the first act of 3 at this point
|
|
|
#
?
Jun 12, 2019 00:18
|
|
|
Have you gone to the dungeon? There's a bunch of cool stuff in there, too, some of which helps preparing for Hell, or combines with hell materials to make good poo poo.
|
|
#
?
Jun 12, 2019 00:23
|
|
|
Zereth posted:Wow there is so much of the game you haven't even seen  (Yeah the dungeon is also on my embarrassing to-do list.)
|
|
#
?
Jun 12, 2019 00:48
|
|
|
Wow, are they adding storms? Super cool. I hope cheat sheet lets me summon storms on demand.
|
|
#
?
Jun 12, 2019 00:54
|
|
|
Does 1.4 mean we get a new thread too
|
|
#
?
Jun 12, 2019 02:14
|
|
|
It's been that way for the past several releases. Though I don't have any plans to make the 1.4 thread whenever that comes out. Writing informative OPs is hard, yo!
|
|
#
?
Jun 12, 2019 02:29
|
|
|
Terraria is pretty much 2D Minecraft, it's just the game Minecraft promised it'd be instead of stalling out in beta before slapping a Skyrim dragon on it and calling it done
|
|
#
?
Jun 12, 2019 03:04
|
|
|
The bestiary window gives me hope that they're going to redo the crafting interface so that you aren't scrolling a vertical list with over a hundred entries anymore.
|
|
#
?
Jun 12, 2019 03:44
|
|
|
Rime posted:The bestiary window gives me hope that they're going to redo the crafting interface so that you aren't scrolling a vertical list with over a hundred entries anymore. You aren't though, you use the index button when crafting to show all recipes in a grid. This is barely an improvement over the list.
|
|
#
?
Jun 12, 2019 03:49
|
|
|
Still a hundred times better than Minecraft's system.
|
|
#
?
Jun 12, 2019 05:55
|
|
|
Vib Rib posted:Still a hundred times better than Minecraft's system.
|
|
#
?
Jun 12, 2019 06:08
|
|
|
Microcline posted:Terraria is pretty much 2D Minecraft, it's just the game Minecraft promised it'd be instead of stalling out in beta before slapping a Skyrim dragon on it and calling it done Everyone else is always hip and with it; leaving me out in the cold and clueless. What big features did Minecraft chicken out on including?
|
|
#
?
Jun 12, 2019 07:13
|
|
|
RareAcumen posted:Everyone else is always hip and with it; leaving me out in the cold and clueless. More than like ten enemies More than like two bosses More than like four weapons More than like three ways to travel Reasons to go underground, and not neglecting the underground in updates Proper game art / sprites instead of placeholders Good movement controls Responsive combat that feels good A variety of interesting, quirky, fun items that could be randomly found anytime So much content that even seasoned players are in continual disbelief about some new item they encounter and how it instantly changes combat/travel/gameplay Spreading biomes Useful NPCs Useful pets / minions Correctly pulling off a sense of extreme escalation and equipment tiers that meaningfully change the game rather than a treadmill, as someone pointed out Sloped surfaces Ability to mine wider than a 1x1 line at once Fluids that drain correctly Timed events / weather that matters A recipe menu Proper balance (avoided gameplay moments that are excessively punishing, like losing all your items on death) I play the mobile version of Terraria which is waaay behind (1.2) and it's still so far beyond Minecraft in terms of quality, fit and finish that I could never again look at Minecraft in any way except as a lesson in missed opportunities in the history of gaming. DoubleNegative posted:It's been that way for the past several releases. Though I don't have any plans to make the 1.4 thread whenever that comes out. Writing informative OPs is hard, yo! What I really meant to say was, do we get a new thread title?
|
|
#
?
Jun 12, 2019 07:34
|
|
|
Dumb Lowtax posted:What I really meant to say was, do we get a new thread title? I bet the pbat videos have some more good thread titles we can milk out of 'em.
|
|
#
?
Jun 12, 2019 08:49
|
|
|
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3K8PMG42l3M So much nostalgia. Found that video linked on some forum and got hooked. Watched all of our boy Pbat's videos on Terraria.  ed a leaked copy of the prerelease build as soon as I heard there had been a leak. Bought the game as soon as it was released. Got loving pissed when they nerfed the rocket boots (they used to burn mana, so you could fly for a real long while with them with some mana potions and the right armor set bonus/accessories). Was extremely relieved when they finally added autoclimb of one-block heights.
|
|
#
?
Jun 12, 2019 10:50
|
|
|
a lot of people were real mad at pbat at the time but frankly he was the best marketing terraria could have asked for
|
|
#
?
Jun 12, 2019 17:23
|
|
|
Pbat is like everyone who streams leaked games, His hands were balls of thumbs and his descision making skills were comparable with that of a heavy concussion. But he had a good character, so I watched every video and it convinced me to buy the game (Mainly so I could do a better job and feel good about myself in comparison).
|
|
#
?
Jun 12, 2019 18:14
|
|
|
Fun fact: that time Blue got in a ton of poo poo for viral marketing on 4chan 8 years ago... that was me.
|
|
#
?
Jun 12, 2019 19:18
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 26, 2024 16:33 |
|
|
Cat Mattress posted:Was extremely relieved when they finally added autoclimb of one-block heights. Venuz Patrol posted:a lot of people were real mad at pbat at the time but frankly he was the best marketing terraria could have asked for
|
|
#
?
Jun 12, 2019 21:27
|
|