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Just, christ. FF7 is such a weird game because as soon as you get out of Midgar, it's a huge tonal shift. Rewriting it for an audience now is a challenge in and of itself. They've been working on this since at least 2014 or 2013. This is just ridiculous.
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If part 1 is indeed the size of a full length RPG, it's perfectly reasonable they dont have anything but a rough draft for later parts. Whether or not splitting the game into multiple parts was smart to begin with, that's another issue.
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Jun 12, 2019 15:13
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WaltherFeng posted:If part 1 is indeed the size of a full length RPG, it's perfectly reasonable they dont have anything but a rough draft for later parts. it's been four years. the fact that they still don't have a roadmap for the entire project is incredibly damning competent people do not play this sort of thing by ear
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Jun 12, 2019 15:20
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corn in the bible posted:Do a remake of ff2 instead Yes do this I want to like 2 so much
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Jun 12, 2019 15:29
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WaltherFeng posted:If part 1 is indeed the size of a full length RPG, it's perfectly reasonable they dont have anything but a rough draft for later parts. So what do they do if this falls flat on its face? They can't just kill it like they did to FF14 and fix it this time. I'd be fine if they rewrote it to take place entirely in Midgar and in the exurbs just outside of it rather than spanning all of Gaea. Make it so that Midgar's sprawl was built on top of the Temple of the Ancients and that its reach is at the enterance of the Northern Cave.
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Jun 12, 2019 15:29
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Star Man posted:So what do they do if this falls flat on its face? They can't just kill it like they did to FF14 and fix it this time. Well if FF15 continued support is anything to go by they will literally just say 'we aren't doing this anymore' and then stop.
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Jun 12, 2019 15:33
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Theoretically this should be the biggest game they’ve made in the last 10 or so years and one they’ve stated in the past that they wanted to remake right because if they hosed it up they were finished.Star Man posted:So what do they do if this falls flat on its face? They can't just kill it like they did to FF14 and fix it this time. Turn into a full-time MMO factory/collapse?
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Jun 12, 2019 15:35
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Saint Freak posted:Well if FF15 continued support is anything to go by they will literally just say 'we aren't doing this anymore' and then stop. God, it’s like if Google made video games. Wait
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Jun 12, 2019 15:36
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One thing I wonder from the trailer, does Jessie not die in the plate collapse? One of the scenes shows her on a motorcycle with Cloud on the highway. Unless that is a new scene.
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Jun 12, 2019 15:40
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Rirse posted:One thing I wonder from the trailer, does Jessie not die in the plate collapse? One of the scenes shows her on a motorcycle with Cloud on the highway. Unless that is a new scene. my guess is they expanded AVALANCHE's escape from the detonating reactor and they're using that scene as a preview for the motorcycle escape from Midgar itself later
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Jun 12, 2019 15:43
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Rirse posted:One thing I wonder from the trailer, does Jessie not die in the plate collapse? One of the scenes shows her on a motorcycle with Cloud on the highway. Unless that is a new scene. I'm guessing that's a new scene. Unless they're decided to randomly add Jessie to your party.
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Jun 12, 2019 15:43
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Jessie, Biggs, and Wedge are now all party members, replacing Yuffie, Vincent, and Iscar Matthias.
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Jun 12, 2019 15:46
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Star Man posted:So what do they do if this falls flat on its face? They can't just kill it like they did to FF14 and fix it this time. Thats why splitting it was probably a bad idea. It wouldnt be so bad if it was an original title. Plenty of games end in sequel hooks and lucky ones get sequels. Heck I wouldnt care if GoW2018 never got a sequel. Its an alright game regardless.
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Jun 12, 2019 15:47
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Rirse posted:One thing I wonder from the trailer, does Jessie not die in the plate collapse? One of the scenes shows her on a motorcycle with Cloud on the highway. Unless that is a new scene. It's new, and the scene right after that is them still in the city, and Jessie gives Cloud a materia as thanks
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Jun 12, 2019 15:47
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I suppose releasing the future parts like expansion packs to an MMO could work? But maybe not if the mother fucker is two Blu-rays long for its first part already.
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Jun 12, 2019 15:50
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TheKingofSprings posted:they’ve stated in the past that they wanted to remake right because if they hosed it up they were finished. Then they’re finished. There’s no way they can pull off a project of this scale without a very detailed business plan. This will literally be SE’s undoing. And I say this even if “Part One” is utterly fantastic.
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Jun 12, 2019 15:52
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Episodic rpgs exist, hell square enix literally just finished a 11 part episodic franchise. It's just not called episodes.
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Jun 12, 2019 16:02
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Tae posted:Episodic rpgs exist, hell square enix literally just finished a 11 part episodic franchise. It's just not called episodes. i hope you're not talking about FFXV, because that would bode even more poorly for FF7R if it's your point of comparison
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Jun 12, 2019 16:05
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Terper posted:It's new, and the scene right after that is them still in the city, and Jessie gives Cloud a materia as thanks I bet it's a Horny Materia.
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Jun 12, 2019 16:18
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Terper posted:It's new, and the scene right after that is them still in the city, and Jessie gives Cloud a materia as thanks I'm guessing that's the restore materia that you pick up just before you set the bomb in the original.
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Jun 12, 2019 16:39
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My overly generous interpretation that gives Square way more benefit of the doubt than they should ever get because we all know how their developments have been in the mainline series for awhile; they probably had a plan and then getting details on the next gen scuttled them and they haven't managed to re-plan yet. I have zero basis to think this is the case.
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Jun 12, 2019 17:58
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Also, they should definitely have known next gen was coming.
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In the BEST case scenario, they got held up on VIIR to deal with XIV, XV, and KH3 issues. Now that it’s the main focus again, they are planning on VIIR mainly to be a next-gen venture, but are releasing the first part as a PS4 exclusive for right now to get some cash influx and goodwill. They don’t know how many more episodes there will be because they aren’t sure how big a game the hypothetical PS5 can handle yet, and aren’t sure how they’ll need to chop it up, if at all. The rest of the game comes out on next-gen, with the first part being rereleased with upgrades, or released as a “FFVIIR Complete” PS5 package. Best case scenario.
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Jun 12, 2019 18:13
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To play both sides of this argument, the fact that the PS5 is fully back compatible does mean that there are no save transfer issues. (Assuming that there will be save transfers?) E: I'm sort of imagining this as a Golden Sun -> Lost Age scenario, where it's one game broken up into pieces and your save will transfer directly across, but maybe that's the wrong way to think about it. E2: Go full Golden Sun, have the party in 2 be complately different until you catch up with the first one. I want to play the Turks hunting Cloud et al. (There is a 0% chance of this happening.) CottonWolf fucked around with this message at 18:22 on Jun 12, 2019 |
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Jun 12, 2019 18:18
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Having trouble finding info: is FF7R a PS4 exclusive, or will it be coming to PC?
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S.J. posted:Having trouble finding info: is FF7R a PS4 exclusive, or will it be coming to PC? It's coming to PS4 first. There'll probably be a PC release somewhere down the line though.
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CottonWolf posted:I want to play the Turks hunting Cloud et al. (There is a 0% chance of this happening.) At least not until the DLC!
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Jun 12, 2019 19:03
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CottonWolf posted:Also, they should definitely have known next gen was coming. It's funny to think that one of the reasons they had for doing the remake was to help sales of the PS4 along, and now it's almost gone as far as what's new and shiny.
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Jun 12, 2019 19:12
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Phantasium posted:It's funny to think that one of the reasons they had for doing the remake was to help sales of the PS4 along, and now it's almost gone as far as what's new and shiny. Was the PS4 struggling or something in 2015?
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Jun 12, 2019 19:20
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Star Man posted:Was the PS4 struggling or something in 2015? Maybe in Japan? It's honestly been so long that I don't remember anything other than that tidbit.
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Jun 12, 2019 19:24
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Good lord Pharos in FF12 is such a momentum killer. Why they decided this needed to be right after the Giruvegan Crystal dungeon is beyond me. Thank Christ the Zodiac Age version has autosaving at area transitions so you can break it up into bite size chunks.
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Jun 12, 2019 20:37
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DrNutt posted:Good lord Pharos in FF12 is such a momentum killer. Why they decided this needed to be right after the Giruvegan Crystal dungeon is beyond me. Thank Christ the Zodiac Age version has autosaving at area transitions so you can break it up into bite size chunks. That's where my playthrough is stuck, yeah. I swear I'll finish it one of these days.
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Jun 12, 2019 22:17
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Is Yiazmat from FF12 the most notorious boss/super boss in the series, or does that honor belong elsewhere?
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Jun 12, 2019 22:25
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Mraagvpeine posted:Is Yiazmat from FF12 the most notorious boss/super boss in the series, or does that honor belong elsewhere? Emerald/Ruby are pretty iconic since they're out there and apparent and everyone died to them at least once.
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Jun 12, 2019 22:32
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Depends on the definition of "notorious" I guess, Yiazmat certainly is out there just because of what a slog his millions of HP are to burn through Emerald/Ruby are probably better in that regard in that they're scary and powerful the first time you run into them but can be trivialised through a myriad of tricks once you have enough system mastery
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Jun 12, 2019 22:42
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I don't think anything is ever going to beat Absolute Virtue.
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Jun 12, 2019 22:45
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MonsieurChoc posted:That's where my playthrough is stuck, yeah. I am at the tippy top and just have Gabranth and Cid left to deal with. Honestly I'm well past the point where I remember any of this poo poo from my playthrough of OG 12 years ago. I found it really helpful to do a bunch of hunts and get overleveled for the story content so getting through Pharos was much less of a slog.
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Jun 12, 2019 22:46
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Rand Brittain posted:I don't think anything is ever going to beat Absolute Virtue. Thank Bahamut
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Love to see people who couldn't remember basic plot points from ff7 a few months ago now incredibly worried about the remake ruining the absolute perfection of the original script. It's been in production for something like five years, they have showed zero footage beyond the first hour of what we are assured is a full-length game coming out in nine months, and they don't even know how many parts the final version will be released in yet. There are Kickstarters better run than this absolute shitshow.
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Oxxidation posted:it's been four years. the fact that they still don't have a roadmap for the entire project is incredibly damning Theres no such thing as competant people. Little baby probably believes in a just world too.
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